Pakistan Is Partitioned By Its National Assembly

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Dear Mr. Khyber,

Your LOL helped me a little bit. I laughed.

Otherwise, I am out of my wits. It is like watching Dr. Hanibal Lechter, many like him, listening to the music while slaying, supporting his actions with quotes from his bible, psychology. There may be social, economic and political interpretations of this but a whole lot of it is psychological. Hardcore psychology. These may be completely deranged people. Not guilty by way of insanity. That would be the most terrifying part.

Here's link to a video about widespread female infanticide in India:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0II7souKPy4

An estimated 100 million women are currently missing from this earth, according to a 2007 report by Plan International (a global child development agency). Unfortunately, female foeticide and infanticide are still very real problems contributing to this number. China and India are two of the biggest culprits, evidenced by their skewed male-female sex ratios. This video explores the Genocide of the Daughters in India and sheds light on the importance of creating global gender equality and a right to life for all.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

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Begetting a Bhindranwale
How does the apex court take notice of the absurdity of Sufi Mohammad of the TNSM fame, labelling the Supreme and the High Courts as un-Islamic and declaring making appeals to them as sacrilegious, will be known in days ahead. So will it be how the independent judiciary campaigners react to his preposterous pronouncement. They were the ones shouting full-throated that Swat-like situations were the outcome of an independent judiciary’s absence in the country and would cease to exist once it was restored. And it is to be seen if at all “political� ulema react to his tirade that by joining the campaign for sacked judges’ restoration they had acted sacrilegiously. And if they do, it would be worth watching how they react. They were so admiring of the Sufi, obviously feeling jubilant he had pulled a feat of religiosity so dear to their hearts. And no lesser note-worthy would it be if the political elites and feudal lords gracing the parliament pluck up courage to speak up now that the Sufi has bracketed them too with political ulema as enemies of Pakistan and its constitution? Weren’t they deafeningly mute when the ANP’s accord with the obscurant was brought before the National Assembly and they without giving even a fleeting thought to its enormously grave implications for the nation endorsed it sheepishly? Hadn’t the Swati thug Fazlullah’s brigands threatened them to say yes or face the consequences? And they said ayes overwhelmingly, for fear of their lives. Isn’t it? But with their politically expedient accord with the obscurant maulvi, haven’t the ANP bigwigs begotten a Bhindranwale? Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale too was no spiritual or religious authority. He was just a rural bard of religious hymns, commanding a popular audience in Indian Punjab’s countryside alone. It was Mrs. Indira Gandhi’s party scouts who spotted him for her. She wanted to hobble in Punjab her entrenched political opponents of Shiromani Akali Dal, a Sikh political formation with strong religious roots and a large support in densely-populated sprawling countryside. She pulled out the minstrel Bhindranwale from his rural base, and with generous patronage propped him up to dominate Punjab’s political landscape. But then he grew too big for his boots. The Alkalis he did pulverise. But he started challenging the Indian State’s authority too, eventually plunging Punjab into a raging secessionist movement that took New Delhi almost a decade to quell. The rest is all known history. Hasn’t the ANP, unwittingly, if not wittingly, bred an emerging Bhindranwale in the Sufi, too? Isn’t he already behaving like a sultan in Swat and Malakand, with him calling the shots and the ANP and the local administration just cringing before him? Isn’t it his diktat that runs in the region, with the administration at his beck and call? He forbade lawyers not to come to courts; they obeyed and the ANP-led administration stood aside inert. He ordered the local courts to stop working; they stopped, with this administration just watching on listlessly. Now he has ordered packing up of courts within four days. This edict too is likely to be complied with obediently. He indeed bullies and blackmails the ANP, and it only submits to his wills and whims. It is he who holds the whip in his hand; the ANP and its subordinate bureaucracy in the region are just on the run. No overstatement it indeed would be that this monster of the Frankenstein ANP has already run out of its control. The Sufi has become his own master and a law unto himself. Where would it lead up to? The coming scenario is daunting. indeed. Bhindranwale had a veteran military officer to build up his fighting muscle for challenging the Indian State. He was Shubeg Singh, a cashiered Indian Army brigadier, who while in service had trained the Mukti Bahini insurgents and unleashed them on the then East Pakistan to fight against the Pakistan military and carry out acts of subversion ands sabotage. And the Sufi has his Shubeg Singh in Fazlullah, still commanding an intact trained and lethally armed private army with immense supply sources across the border. With its foolish accord, the ANP has decidedly stirred a hornets’ nest, which will surely become uncontrollable if not controlled now immediately. Its stupid act is portending a potential confessional strife, too. The Sunni Tehreek is already in street agitation against it. Other confessional factions, too, are taking the same direction. Will someone in Islamabad care to ponder what an atrocity has the ANP inflicted on the nation?
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Da ted: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, Rabi-us-Sani 24, 1430 A.H.

Re: # 326freehussaini....Mr.Masadi will compare this to rape cases in U.S.A. TOO............LOL

Folks! Prepare yourselves for something grossly disturbing. You do not have to watch it necessarily. A friend of mine forwarded this link to me. SERIOUS VIEWER DISCRETION ADVISED!



http://islamabadobserver.com/2009/04/20/taliban-slaughtering-acc used-like-animals/

Re: # 306...#306 Posted by masadi on April 20, 2009 10:03:36
MASADI U SOND SO MUCH LIKE TALIBAN AND THEIR LEADERS,NOW IN SWAT THAT IGNORANT MULLAH IS REJECTING PAKISTAN'S LEGAL SYSTEM SO IS IT OK??????????WHAT THOSE IGNORANT MULLAHS WANTS TO IMPOSE IS TO BAN WOMEN LEGAL ACTIVITIES,ban music which is source of entertainment,ban girls from going to schools,so if I am talking against this and I hate TALIBAN for their cruel activities,and I hate thier criems aginst humanity and you think I am sell out then what I am proud of myself that I am not living in denial and hiding my head in sands,why don't you(MASADI)take urself and family to lal majid or SWAT and live with TALIBAN????masadi you are just religious fanatics like TALIBAN.

Those who are in love with TALIBAN AND IGNORANT MULLAHS OF LAL MASJID SHOULD go and live with them in swat and lal masjid the hate center of Islamabad.

The footage recently made public showing the flogging of a girl in Swat and the execution of a man and woman in their 40s reportedly in the Hangu district must have sickened anyone with respect for human rights and dignity. As such, these videos constitute a graphic reminder of the fact that behind the rhetoric of religion, the real face of the Taliban is one of unmixed brutality and murderousness.
This should come as no surprise. Since the rise of the Taliban in Afghanistan during the 1990s and in Pakistan more recently, there has been ample evidence that the otherwise harmless moniker — which means ‘students’ — is a mask worn by an ideologically united group that uses tactics of violence, fear and gross coercion to get its way.
Given this, it is alarming that Pakistan’s state and society continue to bury their heads in the sand and resort to denial of either specific acts of brutality or the threat in general posed by the Taliban.(DAWN.COM)
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People on forum like masadi is perfect example of those living i denial,what TALIBAN AND MULLAHS WANTS to impose in Pakistan is denial of basic human rights of women and everyone else which cant work in 21st century.This constitutes yet another example of the manner in which the Pakistani state and its citizenry live in denial of the clear and present danger to their personal freedoms. It is precisely this attitude that has allowed the Taliban and others of their ilk to make such deep inroads. Even if this particular video was faked, there is ample evidence otherwise of the Taliban’s brutality. Reports of beheadings, shootings and the coercion of people — who are citizens of Pakistan and residents of Swat — are made public practically everyday.For the survival of values pertaining to freedom, democracy and citizens’ rights, the threat posed by the Taliban must be combated not only militarily but also by taking up positions on the ideological battleground from where they fire the salvos. For this to happen, the grotesqueness of the Taliban worldview must first be recognised and then rejected wholesale.

The Swati girl’s ordeal sparked outrage across the country; but such graphic footage ought not to be necessary to convince the citizenry of the Taliban’s real face. Living in denial is a luxury that is no longer available to us.

Re: # 303
Once again you are confirming my argument, though you’re so angry u don’t see it. What an ass. Reduced economic growth overtime = deflation, or did they not require some vocabulary skills in your ‘accredited’ degree. Equilibriums by the way, Adam Smith kay chachay, are mostly idealized models used for analysis and rarely, if ever, exist in the real world. As for your asinine point about money being artificial, well duh...its paper & ink, or haven’t you noticed? The point is that interest is simply the cost of utilizing the asset of money that is artificial, but represents the value of all other assets. Of course Islamic finance does not recognize money as an asset, but has no real alternative either. Anyway, instead of trying to impress with your economic brilliance, why don’t you simply explain, if you can, how the Islamic financial system is inherently superior.

masadi
Don't quit while you are behind :)
Let's see if you can make reasoned arguments without being an ass.

masadi
Please refrain from name calling because it would be tragic to see you banned. Your entertainment value here is great and you are like a puppy chasing after shadows. Besides if it gives your low self esteem a lift to get on an anonymous website and call everyone else a dimwit then that's double the benefit :)

Your answer then to brutality against women in Pakistan is to say, look it could be worse - you could be in India or the US.

Now some English lesson for you: yes, the cited reasons could be AMONG the many reasons for the skewed ratio. No one is denying that. The ratio, if you noticed it, is pretty much the same in Pakistan and in India. The missing women have gone missing in both countries.

On rape, yes the number of incidents prosecuted is likely less than the actual occurrence. This is true of any crime. Second, in societies where rape carries a stigma, it is likely that the number reported is way lower than actual numbers. Third, notwithstanding your weird reasoning, the UN may use a standard definition, but they use census results from member countries to generate the statistics. The numbers are dependent on a host of factors INCLUDING criminal definition of rape and the reliability of numbers. When was the last Pakstan census conducted? Is there such a thing as date rape or marital rape in Pakistan.

You are either not very bright or dishonest to keep claiming that date rape and marital rape were always classified and prosecuted as crime. You don't have any facts. Waving your hands more vigorously doesn't constitute argument. You should be sued for calling yourself a sociologist.

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#316, you are highly confused and don't have a clue about what you are writing about the claims of facts establish truth or falsity unlike moral prescriptions which can have no such truth or falsity involved unless standards are agreed upon.

Om prakash writes "women ARE free to .. "

No they are not in the U.S. otherwise you wouldn't see the largest number of poor in the US being women, if a structure supports women living on their own etc you wouldn't have one that results in the feminization of poverty when they do try to make it on their own. Get a goddamned education

TNITC masadi

"Is it a faith based text or is it based on factual claims?"

Both. By factual claims is meant claims about facts, rather than values, not necessarily true claims.

"Since the moral prescription has nothing to do with the mentioned facts you cannot scientifically or logically conclude from one to the other"

The moral prescription is embedded in claims about facts, such as whether there is a God etc whether he revealed the prescription to a particular individual , and whether there is such a thing as an afterlife etc. If these factual claims are invalidated it effects the validity of the prescription itself, both because one must mistrust such a source generally and because part of the alleged validity of the prescription is derived from the claim of allegedly being a divine revelation.

Moreover moral prescriptions generally make assumptions about human nature , which too are factual claims that if invalidated, invalidate the prescription itself.

And then the sob has the audacity to point fingers at Pakistan and the one incident involving the Taliban

"According to research published by the British medical journal, Lancet, selective abortions and a traditional preference for male sons could be among the causes of this serious phenomenon. A team of scientists, who analyzed data on fertility on the basis of a nationwide survey in India with six million respondents, discovered that in 1997, half a million less females were born than expected. Projected over a 20-year period, the figure climbs to 10 million. "

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=5068


This is worse barbarism than the high US rape stats we were talking about....the US needs to invade India in order to liberate its female folk....

TNITC masadi