Amber Bokhari May 4, 2009
#31 Posted by Abee on May 6, 2009 10:53:02 pm
Re: # 28 Echoboom
Beautiful verse... so hopeful, so "Faiz".
Thank you for your prayers. I see a new beginning and need all the prayers in the world. Especially yours which i know have a deeper understanding of who i am and what i need.
I even appreciate the concerns of friend who know i can take long flights of fancy and forget the actual height from which i might crash and hurt myself. Love has many forms and this is just one of them.
Inshallah will be writing as long as i live, because expression sets me free and i volunteered for this bondage to writing:) Someday, i will leave a mark out there as one unique lunatic, dreamer, poet. Would like my friends from Chowk to smile upon these days of struggle.
Thank you for everything. You know how much i appreciate.
Salamet rahein. Ameen.
A
Beautiful verse... so hopeful, so "Faiz".
Thank you for your prayers. I see a new beginning and need all the prayers in the world. Especially yours which i know have a deeper understanding of who i am and what i need.
I even appreciate the concerns of friend who know i can take long flights of fancy and forget the actual height from which i might crash and hurt myself. Love has many forms and this is just one of them.
Inshallah will be writing as long as i live, because expression sets me free and i volunteered for this bondage to writing:) Someday, i will leave a mark out there as one unique lunatic, dreamer, poet. Would like my friends from Chowk to smile upon these days of struggle.
Thank you for everything. You know how much i appreciate.
Salamet rahein. Ameen.
A
#30 Posted by Regards on May 6, 2009 10:40:33 pm
#9 Tahir
"How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.�
--attributed to not me
Why!!! That must be God's sura in Quran!!
"How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.�
--attributed to not me
Why!!! That must be God's sura in Quran!!
#29 Posted by Fouz on May 6, 2009 6:19:55 pm
To all the incurable romantics (May God increase their tribe):)
As someone who has been there (and how!), I know the feeling. It's everything Amber has so beautifully described; and more. Let not the cynics distract you from this exhilaration by pointing out the inevitable sobering thereafter. Because the settling down in love and that feeling of complete trust in the relationship is as good as the initial intoxication.
Speaking of poetry, echoboom putting up Faiz prompts me no end to share Hafiz who has perhaps said the last word on all things love, viz
Khalal pazeer buwad har bina kay mi bini
Bajuz binayay muhabbat kay khaali az khalal ast!
Should I spoil the music of the words with my rough translation? Okay its something like "All foundations that I see are somehow decaying except that of love which is without any defect"
As someone who has been there (and how!), I know the feeling. It's everything Amber has so beautifully described; and more. Let not the cynics distract you from this exhilaration by pointing out the inevitable sobering thereafter. Because the settling down in love and that feeling of complete trust in the relationship is as good as the initial intoxication.
Speaking of poetry, echoboom putting up Faiz prompts me no end to share Hafiz who has perhaps said the last word on all things love, viz
Khalal pazeer buwad har bina kay mi bini
Bajuz binayay muhabbat kay khaali az khalal ast!
Should I spoil the music of the words with my rough translation? Okay its something like "All foundations that I see are somehow decaying except that of love which is without any defect"
#28 Posted by echoboom on May 6, 2009 11:39:27 am
amber,
this is the best:
"But if i can be crazy enough to love like this, there must be another manufacturing defect out there who will reciprocate. That will be heaven on earth for me."
Umeed,kay Lo Jaga Ghum-e-dil Ka Naseeba
Lo Shauq Ki Tarsi Hoi Shub,ho Gayi Aakhir
Lo Doob Gayay Dard Kay Baykhwaab Sitaray
Ab Chamkay Ga Bay-noor NigahoN Ka Muqqaddar
Is Baam Say Niklay Ga Teray Husn Ka Khursheed
Us Kunj Say Phootay Gi Kiran, Rang Hina Ki
Is Dar Say Bahayga Teray Raftar Ka Seemab
Us Rah Pay Phoolay Gi Shafaq Teri Qaba Ki
I hope (& pray) that you won't find time to write anymore...after your muse and you become yuk-jaan-doa-qualibs...or maybe you'll become do-aatisha.
who knows?..May your marz-i-ishque prosper.
this is the best:
"But if i can be crazy enough to love like this, there must be another manufacturing defect out there who will reciprocate. That will be heaven on earth for me."
Umeed,kay Lo Jaga Ghum-e-dil Ka Naseeba
Lo Shauq Ki Tarsi Hoi Shub,ho Gayi Aakhir
Lo Doob Gayay Dard Kay Baykhwaab Sitaray
Ab Chamkay Ga Bay-noor NigahoN Ka Muqqaddar
Is Baam Say Niklay Ga Teray Husn Ka Khursheed
Us Kunj Say Phootay Gi Kiran, Rang Hina Ki
Is Dar Say Bahayga Teray Raftar Ka Seemab
Us Rah Pay Phoolay Gi Shafaq Teri Qaba Ki
I hope (& pray) that you won't find time to write anymore...after your muse and you become yuk-jaan-doa-qualibs...or maybe you'll become do-aatisha.
who knows?..May your marz-i-ishque prosper.
#27 Posted by Skeptical on May 6, 2009 9:15:56 am
Re: # 25Abee.. there is nothing wrong with your writing skills. Yes hopeless romanticism is under attaack not the command of your language. You write beautifully..
#26 Posted by Abee on May 6, 2009 8:48:06 am
Re: # 24
Thank you for your prayers Leenah. You're too kind.
I know love is one of the gray areas which noone can really define or explain fully. Its like the concept of heavan that really depends on your take on everything in life. I try to portray the world from my viewpoint and i understand that an infinite others exist. Love can be a great joy or an insurmountable sorrow depending on the situation. I'm still learning from life and sharing the peeks i get into this new world.
I love that song as well. Nayyera is truly gifted!
loads of love,
A
Thank you for your prayers Leenah. You're too kind.
I know love is one of the gray areas which noone can really define or explain fully. Its like the concept of heavan that really depends on your take on everything in life. I try to portray the world from my viewpoint and i understand that an infinite others exist. Love can be a great joy or an insurmountable sorrow depending on the situation. I'm still learning from life and sharing the peeks i get into this new world.
I love that song as well. Nayyera is truly gifted!
loads of love,
A
#25 Posted by Abee on May 6, 2009 8:40:43 am
Re: # 22
Thank you so much for being there for me. You always bring a smile to my lips. I feel protected as if Farzan bhai is watching out for me like old times.
I'm okay with criticism. It makes me improve my skills:) and nothing revs up a performance more than a critical audience:)
May Allah bless you always and in all ways. Amen.
Regards,
A
Thank you so much for being there for me. You always bring a smile to my lips. I feel protected as if Farzan bhai is watching out for me like old times.
I'm okay with criticism. It makes me improve my skills:) and nothing revs up a performance more than a critical audience:)
May Allah bless you always and in all ways. Amen.
Regards,
A
#24 Posted by leenah on May 6, 2009 1:00:18 am
The piece is Beautiful! No one can deny the fact that being in love induces the state which is no more, no less than what has been portrayed here. The, however, remains a separate issue whether 'love' does exist or not .....
Obviously one who doesn't believe in love, can not even begin to fathom the absolute surrender of self that this state brings with it.
Abee, your piece brought back the song 'tera sayya' by Nayyara Noor to my memory :)
May you stay happy, always. Ameen
Obviously one who doesn't believe in love, can not even begin to fathom the absolute surrender of self that this state brings with it.
Abee, your piece brought back the song 'tera sayya' by Nayyara Noor to my memory :)
May you stay happy, always. Ameen
#23 Posted by parthaab on May 6, 2009 12:54:44 am
Re: # 19
Sunil,
I am waiting for the day when You cross the limits of 'sense'! :)
Sunil,
I am waiting for the day when You cross the limits of 'sense'! :)
#22 Posted by Skeptical on May 6, 2009 12:41:57 am
Re: # 21
Keep on writing abee. The whole problem is this that we have developed this American Idol mentality where we at times find it necessarry to attack the writer.
But then this is life!!!!!And at times people will appreciate and at times criticize!!!!
For me you will always be special because you are Farzan's little sister...Keep your spirits up
Keep on writing abee. The whole problem is this that we have developed this American Idol mentality where we at times find it necessarry to attack the writer.
But then this is life!!!!!And at times people will appreciate and at times criticize!!!!
For me you will always be special because you are Farzan's little sister...Keep your spirits up
#21 Posted by Abee on May 6, 2009 12:09:31 am
Dear friends,
i would be writing another piece if i answer everyone personally, (though i'd love to do that:)... i will acknowledge the argument/ discussion that has been initiated. And write a few lines in general and some direct "counter arguments"
I am a hopeless romantic and that is no big secret. I still believe in a utopian love and i don't care how bad the crash feels. The very freedom of being able to feel this way makes me happy and yes, the suffering is worth every bit of the joys and insight of love. Since i'm not married, i would not be aware of the misery of marriage and divorce, but i will take the one billionth chance of falling in love and finding my soulmate. Atleast there would still be hope while i breathe. It is still my biggest fear that what if what everyone says is right and there is no such thing. But if i can be crazy enough to love like this, there must be another manufacturing defect out there who will reciprocate. That will be heavan on earth for me. And i would need truckloads of prayers to get me through my optimistic denial. Thank you for reading and sharing.
reply #1 szaman &5 Auroraborealis
I will be writing post marriage too, atleast i'd like to think i would. If i have the same optimism then, please be kind enough to pass on the hope to other novices in love:)
reply #2 Hitman
Nobody says nice things anymore. Atleast noone outside of romantic novels and chick flicks. have you ever seen someone's face when you say something this sweet? It lights up! Mushy love is not overrated, its under expressed.
reply #3 tahir
What can i say? you have me in stitches too! I need to know who wrote those lines of wisdon:)
Actually i mailed it to the man of my dreams:) and the chastity belt is an added bonus! But just for kicks, tell me what would you feel if this was actually written for you by someone like me?? Awesone na? thats the idea!
Thanks for writing!
reply#6 Leenah
Thanks for the advice. i will need loads of it, especially when in a real relationship where the other person is not a figment of my imagination
reply#7 philosopher
now i'm completely lost, should have written it down. haha... to love or not to love, whatis the question?
reply#8 BJ2
i am STILL sixteen and emotionally plan to stay that way. Sadly the biological clock cannot be reset that easily. Too cheezy, huh?
Thank you for the encouragement ejazharoon, fouz and skeptical. Really appreciate:)
reply #17 bhs75
Wonderful story. very romantic. i hope you find a world of happiness with her. One has to feel it to believe it.
reply #14 parthaab
Beautiful women do fall in love parthaab! Innocent expression of love that transcends mundane limits makes her far more attractive. This is not a proposal but a love letter, but even then,why is it unacceptable for a woman to ask a man to be hers? i really appreciate one thing about the western culture, teh fact that they do not feel embaressed in expressing intimate feelings. we are wired this way, why should we supress "innocent" emotions?
Regards,
A
i would be writing another piece if i answer everyone personally, (though i'd love to do that:)... i will acknowledge the argument/ discussion that has been initiated. And write a few lines in general and some direct "counter arguments"
I am a hopeless romantic and that is no big secret. I still believe in a utopian love and i don't care how bad the crash feels. The very freedom of being able to feel this way makes me happy and yes, the suffering is worth every bit of the joys and insight of love. Since i'm not married, i would not be aware of the misery of marriage and divorce, but i will take the one billionth chance of falling in love and finding my soulmate. Atleast there would still be hope while i breathe. It is still my biggest fear that what if what everyone says is right and there is no such thing. But if i can be crazy enough to love like this, there must be another manufacturing defect out there who will reciprocate. That will be heavan on earth for me. And i would need truckloads of prayers to get me through my optimistic denial. Thank you for reading and sharing.
reply #1 szaman &5 Auroraborealis
I will be writing post marriage too, atleast i'd like to think i would. If i have the same optimism then, please be kind enough to pass on the hope to other novices in love:)
reply #2 Hitman
Nobody says nice things anymore. Atleast noone outside of romantic novels and chick flicks. have you ever seen someone's face when you say something this sweet? It lights up! Mushy love is not overrated, its under expressed.
reply #3 tahir
What can i say? you have me in stitches too! I need to know who wrote those lines of wisdon:)
Actually i mailed it to the man of my dreams:) and the chastity belt is an added bonus! But just for kicks, tell me what would you feel if this was actually written for you by someone like me?? Awesone na? thats the idea!
Thanks for writing!
reply#6 Leenah
Thanks for the advice. i will need loads of it, especially when in a real relationship where the other person is not a figment of my imagination
reply#7 philosopher
now i'm completely lost, should have written it down. haha... to love or not to love, whatis the question?
reply#8 BJ2
i am STILL sixteen and emotionally plan to stay that way. Sadly the biological clock cannot be reset that easily. Too cheezy, huh?
Thank you for the encouragement ejazharoon, fouz and skeptical. Really appreciate:)
reply #17 bhs75
Wonderful story. very romantic. i hope you find a world of happiness with her. One has to feel it to believe it.
reply #14 parthaab
Beautiful women do fall in love parthaab! Innocent expression of love that transcends mundane limits makes her far more attractive. This is not a proposal but a love letter, but even then,why is it unacceptable for a woman to ask a man to be hers? i really appreciate one thing about the western culture, teh fact that they do not feel embaressed in expressing intimate feelings. we are wired this way, why should we supress "innocent" emotions?
Regards,
A
#20 Posted by iron_mask on May 5, 2009 11:54:58 pm
parthaab moshai, aapni ekdom frustru ... ki aapnar bana ta ekdom chotu.....
#19 Posted by sunil7090 on May 5, 2009 11:38:15 pm
parthaab,please stay within limits of sense,do not cross
#18 Posted by parthaab on May 5, 2009 10:18:08 pm
Re: # 17
bha, All men think they invented 'love' personally. But they Dont teach you, that 'love', is nothing but selfishness. You 'love' her for sex, maybe. And she 'loves' you for your money.
You dont tell her the reason for your 'love'. Neither does she tell you hers. The reason being that it is 'inexplicable'. In other words, not social to accept the true reasons openly. And hence, the myth, called love persists.
Until you are brought crashing down to earth by divorce. Which is far more expensive than a mere 'heart-break' - a penalty for not understanding love! So watch out!
WAKE UP MALES! SPEAK UP!
bha, All men think they invented 'love' personally. But they Dont teach you, that 'love', is nothing but selfishness. You 'love' her for sex, maybe. And she 'loves' you for your money.
You dont tell her the reason for your 'love'. Neither does she tell you hers. The reason being that it is 'inexplicable'. In other words, not social to accept the true reasons openly. And hence, the myth, called love persists.
Until you are brought crashing down to earth by divorce. Which is far more expensive than a mere 'heart-break' - a penalty for not understanding love! So watch out!
WAKE UP MALES! SPEAK UP!
#17 Posted by bhs75 on May 5, 2009 10:02:51 pm
believe all that, I met someone in 1999,at the airport,it was only for a brief moment,we only exchanged names and our flights were ready to board but the face and the last look got stuck in my head and I could not forget it,after 10 years I found her again,again at the airport & I said "I forgot to tell you last time that I "FEEL", she replied "I was looking for you too".
when I was telling myself it's not going to come around again,it happened !!! now I am engaged to her!!! someone I never met in life and only in 5 minutes or so it all changed,then the wait of seeing her again, and ofcourse everyone tells you that you are getting old and what are your plans. my family got irritated with it, I could not tell them anything and I kept myself busy in work, so four of my siblings got married before me.
I look up sometime and wonder how HE plans it all for us, and how you the destinies meet. Love is no joke nor a myth fellas !!! it is real and it happens !!! so don't say love is a bla bla bla just because you had a terrible time dealing with it or your heart never opened up to it, that is all!!!! you don't plan to be in love, planned love is selfish.
when I was telling myself it's not going to come around again,it happened !!! now I am engaged to her!!! someone I never met in life and only in 5 minutes or so it all changed,then the wait of seeing her again, and ofcourse everyone tells you that you are getting old and what are your plans. my family got irritated with it, I could not tell them anything and I kept myself busy in work, so four of my siblings got married before me.
I look up sometime and wonder how HE plans it all for us, and how you the destinies meet. Love is no joke nor a myth fellas !!! it is real and it happens !!! so don't say love is a bla bla bla just because you had a terrible time dealing with it or your heart never opened up to it, that is all!!!! you don't plan to be in love, planned love is selfish.
#16 Posted by parthaab on May 5, 2009 9:31:47 pm
#15
Sunil,
I am waiting for the day when You cross the limits of 'sense'! :)
Sunil,
I am waiting for the day when You cross the limits of 'sense'! :)
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