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#127 Posted by missamericanpie on May 11, 2009 1:25:29 am
other male id on chowk?
lol...no honey i am a real woman
but then you don't know how to deal with that do you
lol...no honey i am a real woman
but then you don't know how to deal with that do you
#126 Posted by tahir on May 11, 2009 1:23:40 am
Re: # 123
Miss Mrikan Bhai,
"i am an atheist but i THANK GOD i am not muslim!!!!!"
Had you been a good Muslim, you wouldn't be an atheist today!
Miss Mrikan Bhai,
"i am an atheist but i THANK GOD i am not muslim!!!!!"
Had you been a good Muslim, you wouldn't be an atheist today!
#125 Posted by philosopher on May 11, 2009 1:21:07 am
Re: # 123 missamericanpie aka some other "male" ID on chowk.
we also thank God for your not being muslim.
we also thank God for your not being muslim.
#124 Posted by philosopher on May 11, 2009 1:18:29 am
Re: # 121 Tahir
Amaan yaar Tahir...she has quoted it from my #119.don't blame her for that.and plz come out of this spelling fetish.philosophy mein aisee terms gharni partin hain yaar, for the sake of clarity.plz meray bhai.humain kiyon complex ka shikaar kertay ho.Bhai meray...there is a world of a difference b/w grammatical usage and technical usage of language.
Amaan yaar Tahir...she has quoted it from my #119.don't blame her for that.and plz come out of this spelling fetish.philosophy mein aisee terms gharni partin hain yaar, for the sake of clarity.plz meray bhai.humain kiyon complex ka shikaar kertay ho.Bhai meray...there is a world of a difference b/w grammatical usage and technical usage of language.
#123 Posted by missamericanpie on May 11, 2009 1:14:28 am
and you wonder why the world sees you as the most backward people on earth?
i am an atheist but i THANK GOD i am not muslim!!!!!
i am an atheist but i THANK GOD i am not muslim!!!!!
#122 Posted by philosopher on May 11, 2009 1:08:54 am
Re: # 120 miss blonde
(((Good mothers and joyful wives???? Is that all a woman is suppose to want from life?)))
No, but american women wanna be secretary as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSEY0q1POE0
http://www.youtube.com/wa tch?v=tcQtVKqlIuQ&feature=related
(((Good mothers and joyful wives???? Is that all a woman is suppose to want from life?)))
No, but american women wanna be secretary as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSEY0q1POE0
http://www.youtube.com/wa tch?v=tcQtVKqlIuQ&feature=related
#121 Posted by tahir on May 11, 2009 1:03:34 am
Re: # 120
Miss Mrikan Bhai,
"true womanly function"
Please spell it out for the benefit of all MAN-kind.
Miss Mrikan Bhai,
"true womanly function"
Please spell it out for the benefit of all MAN-kind.
#120 Posted by missamericanpie on May 11, 2009 12:46:58 am
For almost last two centuries now feminists have been indulging in an orgy of finger pointing at men and self-pity.if this attitude had brought them happiness and fulfillment, if feminism(their concept of emancipation) had made them good mothers and joyful wives, or even pleased them with their new 'place' in the world... the game might have been worth the candle.But it is evident that it hasn’t been.The game has brought frigidity, anxiety,a soaring divorce rate, as well as neurosis, lesbianism and juvenile delinquency... All that results when the women in any culture forget ther true womanly function
Good mothers and joyful wives???? Is that all a woman is suppose to want from life?
So feminism is responsible for frigidity, anxiety,a soaring divorce rate, as well as neurosis, lesbianism and juvenile delinquency…….
So what causes males to be gay? Is that the fault of “feminist� too?
You would keep women “in her place� that place being at the feet of man?
What a moronic chauvinistic gender racist statement
Good mothers and joyful wives???? Is that all a woman is suppose to want from life?
So feminism is responsible for frigidity, anxiety,a soaring divorce rate, as well as neurosis, lesbianism and juvenile delinquency…….
So what causes males to be gay? Is that the fault of “feminist� too?
You would keep women “in her place� that place being at the feet of man?
What a moronic chauvinistic gender racist statement
#119 Posted by philosopher on May 11, 2009 12:25:38 am
Re: # 115 Tehsin sahib
(((I don’t think it would be looks, or sexiness it would be more like strength, ability, character, wealth, stature etc. etc. In other words powerful men are attractive to women just as much as beautiful women are enticing to men)))
Very well said. To say that men and women are the "same" is to deny physical reality.It would just like saying that "A" is "B" not "A".Maleness and femaleness are innate and integral parts of our human design.It takes no leap of imagination to recognize these pretty obvious differences b/w both sexes.
Even from a biological perspective it would be no less bizzare to say that if she walks like a woman, talks like a woman,its a social construction of femininity.To claim that sex is given by the nature and gender is the product of the society is a very height of superficialty.
Because from any philosophical standpoint it would imply that "society" is something outside of "Nature".which is pure stupidity.society itself is the menifestation of natural human potential.Had these differences not been "natural"it would have been impossible for this social dynamics of gender to prevail on such large scale.
To put a blame on "men" for this dynamics of gender of is to consider "men" something outside of nature.After all where have men got these desire from? from some extra-natural source?some people would claim that this dynamic has taken different shapes and "form" in different periods of history.Again the answer is in very much present in this assertion that even though the "form" of the society keeps changing the "essence", nonetheless, remains the same.
No doctrine or ideology for that matter(including Marxism) deals with issue of gender on the "moral" grounds.for marxism this dynamics is the inevitable result of the process of Dialactical process.i'm not advocating physiological determinism here, its just a perspective of different of doctrines on this issues.because most of the people who dearly hold these doctrine,do not consistently apply the methodology of their own ideology on these issues.
For almost last two centuries now feminists have been indulging in an orgy of finger pointing at men and self-pity.if this attitude had brought them happiness and fulfillment, if feminism(their concept of emancipation) had made them good mothers and joyful wives, or even pleased them with their new 'place' in the world... the game might have been worth the candle.But it is evident that it hasn’t been.The game has brought frigidity, anxiety,a soaring divorce rate, as well as neurosis, lesbianism and juvenile delinquency... All that results when the women in any culture forget ther true womanly function.
If we leave our prejudices behind and look a bit deeply into all religious traditions of the world we would see that these tradition(including Hinduism) are not as mysogistic as they seem at first glance.However, as for as the legal status of women is concerned,there is no comparison.Islam wins hands down on this issue.For example, the right of khula, holding property,share in inheritence etc show the protective nature of these rights so that men can't misuse their authourity of "one degree" or the position of the head of the household.But as for as the psychological teachings are concerned, every religion sees this dynamic from the spirtual perspective as well.That,it is through this natural expression and differences they can discover not only their spirtuality but also their true natural potential.That's why they are called "Libaas" of each other in the Quran.This expression of "Libaas" shows the complimentary(non-antagonistic) and creative role of these differences.
(((I don’t think it would be looks, or sexiness it would be more like strength, ability, character, wealth, stature etc. etc. In other words powerful men are attractive to women just as much as beautiful women are enticing to men)))
Very well said. To say that men and women are the "same" is to deny physical reality.It would just like saying that "A" is "B" not "A".Maleness and femaleness are innate and integral parts of our human design.It takes no leap of imagination to recognize these pretty obvious differences b/w both sexes.
Even from a biological perspective it would be no less bizzare to say that if she walks like a woman, talks like a woman,its a social construction of femininity.To claim that sex is given by the nature and gender is the product of the society is a very height of superficialty.
Because from any philosophical standpoint it would imply that "society" is something outside of "Nature".which is pure stupidity.society itself is the menifestation of natural human potential.Had these differences not been "natural"it would have been impossible for this social dynamics of gender to prevail on such large scale.
To put a blame on "men" for this dynamics of gender of is to consider "men" something outside of nature.After all where have men got these desire from? from some extra-natural source?some people would claim that this dynamic has taken different shapes and "form" in different periods of history.Again the answer is in very much present in this assertion that even though the "form" of the society keeps changing the "essence", nonetheless, remains the same.
No doctrine or ideology for that matter(including Marxism) deals with issue of gender on the "moral" grounds.for marxism this dynamics is the inevitable result of the process of Dialactical process.i'm not advocating physiological determinism here, its just a perspective of different of doctrines on this issues.because most of the people who dearly hold these doctrine,do not consistently apply the methodology of their own ideology on these issues.
For almost last two centuries now feminists have been indulging in an orgy of finger pointing at men and self-pity.if this attitude had brought them happiness and fulfillment, if feminism(their concept of emancipation) had made them good mothers and joyful wives, or even pleased them with their new 'place' in the world... the game might have been worth the candle.But it is evident that it hasn’t been.The game has brought frigidity, anxiety,a soaring divorce rate, as well as neurosis, lesbianism and juvenile delinquency... All that results when the women in any culture forget ther true womanly function.
If we leave our prejudices behind and look a bit deeply into all religious traditions of the world we would see that these tradition(including Hinduism) are not as mysogistic as they seem at first glance.However, as for as the legal status of women is concerned,there is no comparison.Islam wins hands down on this issue.For example, the right of khula, holding property,share in inheritence etc show the protective nature of these rights so that men can't misuse their authourity of "one degree" or the position of the head of the household.But as for as the psychological teachings are concerned, every religion sees this dynamic from the spirtual perspective as well.That,it is through this natural expression and differences they can discover not only their spirtuality but also their true natural potential.That's why they are called "Libaas" of each other in the Quran.This expression of "Libaas" shows the complimentary(non-antagonistic) and creative role of these differences.
#118 Posted by tahir on May 11, 2009 12:00:16 am
Re: # 111
VRV, vrooom....vrrrrroooommm....crash!
"Was Abraham a Muslim?
YES, and he admits that himself in the Quran. Every Prophet submitted to the will of the Creator.
"Was God a cannibal or a mental guy to seek the sacrifice of humans? Why was He bloodthirsty in the first place?"
Nowhere in the Quran (unless you believe corrupted other sources) does Allah ask Prophet Ibrahim to make a human sacrifice of his first-born son! Is that news?
"If God is formless how can have a Will?"
Now you're thinking like the instrument that produced you! Our minds have serious limitations.
Study on your own please.
VRV, vrooom....vrrrrroooommm....crash!
"Was Abraham a Muslim?
YES, and he admits that himself in the Quran. Every Prophet submitted to the will of the Creator.
"Was God a cannibal or a mental guy to seek the sacrifice of humans? Why was He bloodthirsty in the first place?"
Nowhere in the Quran (unless you believe corrupted other sources) does Allah ask Prophet Ibrahim to make a human sacrifice of his first-born son! Is that news?
"If God is formless how can have a Will?"
Now you're thinking like the instrument that produced you! Our minds have serious limitations.
Study on your own please.
#117 Posted by tahir on May 10, 2009 11:52:44 pm
Re: # 106
Tehsina and Ham-damn-thank-you-ma'am,
Both of you are out of work clowns. I strongly suggest that you refrain from speaking about Prophet Ibrahim in this derogatory fashion or else 'asmani bijli' will reduce you to 'surma' that Iblees might want to use for curing his spiritual blindness.
The key word: REFRAIN.
Tehsina and Ham-damn-thank-you-ma'am,
Both of you are out of work clowns. I strongly suggest that you refrain from speaking about Prophet Ibrahim in this derogatory fashion or else 'asmani bijli' will reduce you to 'surma' that Iblees might want to use for curing his spiritual blindness.
The key word: REFRAIN.
#116 Posted by tahir on May 10, 2009 11:44:57 pm
Re: # 104
Tehsina,
"Moreover it wasn’t his new girlfriend, it was his old wife!!!! Abey! woh bhi zun mureed tha."
Please clarify who you're talking about?
Tehsina,
"Moreover it wasn’t his new girlfriend, it was his old wife!!!! Abey! woh bhi zun mureed tha."
Please clarify who you're talking about?
#115 Posted by TehsinA on May 10, 2009 7:37:40 pm
#114 Posted by hamidm2
Now that we are talking sanely let us just dissect this issue. The greatest asset that a woman has in virtue of being a woman is her attractiveness to men. This would include her beauty, allure, and all the attributes that our Philosopher Sahib #40 listed in his prospective wife specs. Similarly what is the most attractive thing that women find in men? I don’t think it would be looks, or sexiness it would be more like strength, ability, character, wealth, stature etc. etc. In other words powerful men are attractive to women just as much as beautiful women are enticing to men.
I think you would agree that extremely beautiful women in the course of history have managed to make tremendous deals for themselves and have laid in their wake trails of broken male hearts. Same is true of powerful men, a lot of women find them irresistible and willingly become part of their harems, mistresses etc. etc.
Now, you would also agree that submitting yourself to uncontrollable desire cannot be called a virtue, it is a flaw. Men are aware of it and so are the women. They know that they are doing something wrong but once they are beautiful women or powerful men their relative positions make it so much easier for them to slip. I am absolutely convinced that they do try to resist it but in the end how much can one resist, they slip and that is what you are holding up to scrutiny. What I am referring to is that I am certain that people like John Edwards didn’t sleep with every woman who presented herself to him because I am certain that he probably got invitations every day but if somebody makes you their project like Lewinsky or many other women do, to bag a powerful man you are liable to succumb some time. Same would be true of extremely attractive women, how long would she resist so many great offers, after all she is a human being.
As far as you and I are concerned we are lucky that at least our wives put up with us and with no offers from others what the heck are you complaining about?
Now that we are talking sanely let us just dissect this issue. The greatest asset that a woman has in virtue of being a woman is her attractiveness to men. This would include her beauty, allure, and all the attributes that our Philosopher Sahib #40 listed in his prospective wife specs. Similarly what is the most attractive thing that women find in men? I don’t think it would be looks, or sexiness it would be more like strength, ability, character, wealth, stature etc. etc. In other words powerful men are attractive to women just as much as beautiful women are enticing to men.
I think you would agree that extremely beautiful women in the course of history have managed to make tremendous deals for themselves and have laid in their wake trails of broken male hearts. Same is true of powerful men, a lot of women find them irresistible and willingly become part of their harems, mistresses etc. etc.
Now, you would also agree that submitting yourself to uncontrollable desire cannot be called a virtue, it is a flaw. Men are aware of it and so are the women. They know that they are doing something wrong but once they are beautiful women or powerful men their relative positions make it so much easier for them to slip. I am absolutely convinced that they do try to resist it but in the end how much can one resist, they slip and that is what you are holding up to scrutiny. What I am referring to is that I am certain that people like John Edwards didn’t sleep with every woman who presented herself to him because I am certain that he probably got invitations every day but if somebody makes you their project like Lewinsky or many other women do, to bag a powerful man you are liable to succumb some time. Same would be true of extremely attractive women, how long would she resist so many great offers, after all she is a human being.
As far as you and I are concerned we are lucky that at least our wives put up with us and with no offers from others what the heck are you complaining about?
#114 Posted by hamidm2 on May 10, 2009 6:02:57 pm
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#113 Posted by tahmed32 on May 10, 2009 4:09:44 pm
Tehsin: Are you preaching peace to the peaceful hindoos? That is like hauling coals to Newcastle. Or cow patties to New Delhi.
#112 Posted by TehsinA on May 10, 2009 2:13:48 pm
Guys please! This board was about love and relationships. Lets stay there, we moved to religious myth and are now drifting to an Indo Pak wrestle mania.
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