Obama's Af-Pak Strategy

427 Ajeya, Thanks for the info.

Re: # 426ajeya..i dont ve madressa edu...i have better then that and urs.
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nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP),, Shri Ram Sena ,Pramod Muthalik, ARE Indian Taliban..,They do not seem to you terrorists because neither they are Muslims nor Pakistanis...These people who belong to Sri Ram Sena are thugs and jobless low lifes just like Taliban in Afghanistan or Swat. My point is agin that u guys spend time talking about ur problems not Pakistani problems.
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Re: # 414 freehussaini

"The brains leading the two countries promote themselves as the best"

Actually these folks are pretty smart for themselves and have become rulers of the nations and treat common folks no better than white folks used to do.

Education is the key. In western world, people know their rights and have somewhat more control over their rulers - not perfect but much better than our part of the world. As our folks get educated, hopefully, painting only great "our cultural superiority" or "our religious superiority" will not be enough. People will demand and hopefully get better treatment (work opportunities) one way or another.

Regards.

#422 VRV

[Do u really think that India has any shield against missile attacks either from Pakistan or China?]

Here's some depressing info (I'm sorry, Pakis, but those are the facts):

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Air_Defence

India-Israel cooperation

India was interested in acquiring the Arrow-II Missile System, which had been jointly developed by US and Israel. However, the deal fell through due to US refusal to approve the sale of the missile and the Yellow Citron control system. India and Israel jointly developed the Long Range Tracking Radar (LRTR), which is target acquisition and fire control radar for PAD Missile System. LRTR radar has a capabiltiy to detect multiple targets.

Development

Phase 1

Development of ABM System began in 1999. Around 40 public and private Companies were involved in the development of ABM System. They include Bharat Electronics Ltd and Bharat Dynamics Ltd, Astra Microwave, ASL, Larsen & Toubro, Vem Technologies Private Limited and KelTech. Development of LRTR (Long Range Tracking Radar) and MFCR (Multi-function Fire Control Radar) was lead by Electronics and Radar Development Establishment (ERDE).[11][12]
For the AAD Missile System, Defence Research and Development Laboratory (DRDL) developed the mission control software. Research Centre, Imarat (RCI) developed navigation, electromechanical actuation systems and Active Radar Seeker. Advanced System Laboratory (ASL) provided the motors, jet vanes and structures for the two missiles. High Energy Materials Research Laboratory (HEMRL) supplied the propellants for the missile.[12]

Description

The two-tiered BMD System consists of the PAD, which will intercept missiles at exo-atmospheric altitudes of 50-80 km; and AAD Missile for interception at endoatmospheric altitudes of up to 30 km. The deployed system would consist of many launch vehicles, Radars, launch control centers (LCC) and Mission Control Center. All these are geographically distributed and connected by a secure communication network.[10]
Mission control center (MCC) is the software intensive system of the Ballistic Missile Defense. It receives information from various sources like Radars, Satellites etc which is then processed by ten computers running simultaneously. MCC is connected to all other elements of the System through a WAN. MCC performs target classification, target assignment and kill assessment. It acts as a decision support system for the commander. It can also decide the number of interceptors required for the target for an assured kill probability.[10]
MCC after performing all the functions, assigns the target to Launch Control Center (LCC) of a battery. Launch Control Center (LCC) starts computing the time to launch interceptor based upon information received from Radar. This is decided based on the data received from radar, on the speed, altitude and flight path of the target. LCC prepares the missile for launch in real time, carries out ground guidance computation.[10]
After the interceptor is launched, it is provided target information from the radar through a datalink. When the Interceptors closes on to the Target ballistic missile, it activates the Active Radar Seeker to search for target missile and guides itself to intercept the target. Multiple PAD and AAD interceptors can be launched against a target for high kill probability.[10]

Prithvi Air Defence (PAD) is an anti-ballistic missile developed to intercept incoming ballistic missiles outside atmosphere (Exoatmosphere). Based on the Prithvi missile, PAD is a two stage missile with a maximum interception altitude of 80 km. The first stage is a liquid fuelled motor that uses two propellants and oxidizers while second stage is solid fuelled.[14].[10] It has divert thrusters which can generate a lateral acceleration at more than 5 Gs at 50 km altitude. Guidance is provided by intertial navigation system, mid-course updates from long range tracking radar (LRTR) and active radar homing in the terminal phase.[10] PAD has capability to engage 300 to 2,000 km class of ballistic missiles at a speed of Mach 5.[10]
Long Range Tracking Radar is the target acquisition and fire control Radar for PAD Missile. It is an active phased array radar having capability to track 200 targets at a range of 600 km.[10] The Prithvi Air Defense missile has been named as Pradyumna.[15]
Further development led to the improvement of the interception range to 80km from the 50km range. The improved missile will utilize a gimbaled directional warhead, a technology that until now has only been used by the US and Russia. This technology allows for a smaller warhead to destroy the target missile.[16]

Prithvi Air Defense Exercise

PADE (Prithvi Air Defence Exercise) was conducted on November 2006 in which PAD Missile successfully intercepted a modified Prithvi-II Missile at an altitude of 50 km. The Prithvi-II Ballistic Missile was modified successfully to mimic the trajectory of M-11 missiles.
DRDO plans to test the Anti-ballistic shield against missiles with a range of 1500 km. The test will be conducted with a modified Prithvi missile launched from a naval ship and the anti-ballistic missile launched from wheeler island. The interception of the target missile will take place at 80 km altitude.[17]
On March 6, 2009 DRDO carried out a second successful test of PAD interceptor missile. The target used was ship launched Dhanush missile which followed the trajectory of of missile with range of 1500 km. The target was tracked by swordfish (LRTR) Radar and destroyed by PAD missile at 75 km altitude.

Advanced Air Defence (AAD)

Advanced Air Defence (AAD) is an anti-ballistic missile designed to intercept incoming ballistic missiles in endoatmosphere at an altitude of 30 km. AAD is single stage, solid fuelled missile. Guidance is similar to that of PAD: Inertial Navigation System, midcourse updates from ground based radar and active radar homing in terminal phase. It is 7.5 metres tall, weighs around 1.2 tonnes and a diameter of less than 0.5 metres.[19]
On 6 December 2007, AAD successfully intercepted a modified Prithvi-II missile acting as an incoming ballistic missile enemy target. The endo-atmospheric interception was carried out at an altitude of 15 km. The interceptor and all the elements performed in a copy book fashion validating the endo-atmospheric layer of BMD System. The launch was also shown through a video link at control room of DRDO Bhawan, Delhi.
The sequence of events of the test was as follows. At 11 a.m. the Prithvi missile lifted off from Launch Complex III at the Integrated Test Range (ITR) at Chandipur Orissa. Radars at Konark, Paradip detected the missile and were continuously tracking it. The target information was sent to Mission Control Centre (MCC) for further processing. MCC classifies the target, calcuates the trajectory of the missile and assigns the target to AAD Battery located on Wheeler Island, 70 km across the sea from Chandipur. AAD is launched when Prithvi reaches an apogee of 110 km. AAD with the help of midcourse updates and terminal seeker manoeuvres itself towards the target. AAD makes the direct hit at an altitude of 15 km and at a speed of Mach 4. Radars detected formation of a large number of tracks, signifying that the target had broken into multiple pieces. The thermal cameras located on Wheeler Island also picked up the direct hit through thermal images[12]
Due to two successful interceptor missile tests carried out by India, the scientists have said that the AAD missile could be modified into a new surface-to-surface missile that could be possibly named as ‘Ashvin’. AAD intercepted a missile at 15 km from the surface of the earth, thus the missile could be used as a surface-to-surface missile. [20]

Swordfish Long Range Tracking RADAR

Swordfish is a target acquisition and fire control radar for the BMD system.

Deployment

According to scientist V. K. Saraswat of DRDO the missiles will work in tandem to ensure a hit probability of 99.8 percent.[21] Induction of the system into services is expected to be in 2011.

Phase 2

Two new anti ballistic missiles that can intercept IRBM/ICBMs are being developed. These high speed missiles (AD-1 and AD-2) are being developed to intercept ballistic missiles with the range of 5000 km.[22] The test trials of these two systems is expected to take place in 2011.[23] The new missile will be similar the THAAD missile deployed by the U.S.A. These missiles will have to travel at hypersonic speeds and will require radars with scan capability of over 1500 kilometers to successfully intercept the target.[24]
India is also planning to develop a laser based weapon system as part of its Ballistic Missile Defence to intercept and destroy missiles soon after they are launched towards the country. DRDO's Air Defence Programme Director V K Saraswat says its ideal to destroy a ballistic missile carrying nuclear or conventional warhead in its boost phase. Saraswat further added that it will take another 10-15 years for the premier defence research institute to make it usable on the ground.[25]

#425 KHYBER

[Apparently, the wise Hindus on this forum have all the answers to what ails Pakistan and how set them on the righteous and peaceful path. Hmmm. Last time I check ...]

It's "checked" not "check" (it's obviously not a typo). And stop checking with your madrassa resources.

Apparently, the wise Hindus on this forum have all the answers to what ails Pakistan and how set them on the righteous and peaceful path. Hmmm. Last time I check Hindustan was still a byword for the degeneracy known as caste system and horrific poverty and world-wide coolie suppliers. It is easy, once you have escaped the miasma called India, ensconced in the West, to parrot 'India is shinning, Pakistan and Muslims is source of all our problems' mantra. Going by history, Hindu-dominated India is not going anywhere fast: the best that I can envision are islands of prosperity in a sea of dehumanizing poverty and filth that will a target of many Slum dog Millionaire movies that will shame the India shinning delusional crowd.
A word of advice to Hindus, get rid of Modi before you are able to give lecture in ethics to anyone.
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Aleph, That's hilarious & thanks for the other info.

VRV #422

{{DRDO was busy developing more and more types of missiles but never the anti-missile systems.}}

Yeah, DRDO is completely feckless. There's no way they'll be able to develop a multi-layered ballistic missile defense system.

They are so incompetent that they actually managed to have two Prithvi missiles collide in mid-air, not once but on two separate occasions!

[Hint: you are behind the times. Read up on the PAD and AAD programs.]

Iron,

Do u really think that India has any shield against missile attacks either from Pakistan or China?

DRDO was busy developing more and more types of missiles but never the anti-missile systems. In the absence of such systems it's nothing but MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) for India and Pakistan/China.

hamidget, U r a bhindoo convert. Don't forget that.

Though purely from an American point of view, if both the Indians and the Pakistanis wipe themselves out of the gene pool the better it is for the world - more resources to the productive and resourceful. One is a beggared and buggered nation (pakistan) and another is going to be one soon (it is half way there) (though has been raped buggered and beggared for many years before that)

They have started with the Paksiatnis. India is next..

As they say pox on all the houses(T)

actually he is wishing death on many more pakistanis, and in the process suggests India could be willing to take the loss.

His strategy is simple - calling your bluff. In the process you have got cold feet now.

In fact I would, say that the Pakistani Nuclear Bluff was called by India long time back (almost a decade back). Dont think the Indians are scared of this now (atleast the PM MMSingh seems to have said so recently).

AS things stand, Pakistan does not appear to have the nuclear teeth any more?

Hasho, Alephnull never suggested that (what ever be your fight with him - that was not his saying)!

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#411 Posted by AlephNull
Algay writes: "I rarely read your tripe"

Hahaha! Algay besides wishing death on millions of Indians your other skills such as lying and plagiarizing are on the rise too. I remember during the tsunami and the devastation afterwards in India, you were wishing death on Indians just to look better. Want me to post your nuggets from that era? Those were last of the original posts from you, until today when you again wished death on Indians by way of exchanging nukes.

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