Obama's Af-Pak Strategy

Profane language.

Re: # 408

Dear Bhai Pardesi,

Your last paragraph is a ray of hope for 825 million poor of India. Pakistan has 122 million poor out of 173 million. The brains leading the two countries promote themselves as the best but are actually damaged beyond repair to be chasing toys like armies, nuclear bombs and space rockets. Let us hope that sanity would rule over the subcontinent, one day.

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Hasho Pandhiani #406

I rarely read your tripe beyond the abusive salutations in the first few lines. This time I made a special exception, went back to #360 and waded through the ponderous verbiage to the penultimate paragraph.

I concede that only an intellect as subtle and incisive as yours could have come up with that profound insight. I'm so sorry I plagiarised from you - I will be eternally in your debt. Next time I'll be sure to pay you royalties.

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To other enlightened moderate Pakistanis - those playing up their supposed military strength and in other ways trying to use the blackmail threat of imminent Talibanization to extort money from the US and concessions from neighbours - I say:

Talibanize and be dammed!

Re: # 406HASHO....SAYS,' like the scantly armed Pathans can't walk towards Islamabad."...Ignorance has no limits,Mr.Hasho...Pathans can even walk towards New delhi and teach u guys how to take shower,the ones(taliban)who wants to walk towards islamabad are not all pathans and they have no support of moderate educated pathans,the ones who are educated , modern and secular are elected by vote and they ruled from islamabd and new delhi several times.
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/...

http://thepathans.blogspot.com/

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When european economic market was being put together, they went little overboard and tried to set standards for everything, even condoms. when the specifications were published, spokesman for every country (from sweden to greece and everyone in between) protested that this average condom size was too small for their males.

Moral of the story - stay away from this topic. But some Pakistanis are too idiots to always brag about it as if they have been certified by some authorities that they are bigger than Indians or any other nationalities.

If you guys have any brains, focus on your fking collapsed economy, beggar politicians, your army that's constantly raping you, low standards of education etc etc. All this assumes that you have some pride left and dont spend all your waking hours looking at your size in front of mirror.

And just to be fair let us Indians worry about fking "RR track" and other poverty issues like absolute miserable poor folks rather than trying to send men to moon and sun and trying to prove that we are the best minds in the world. No one will respect us for space achievement if one sees 70% of our population as kangals walking around you when one lands in shining India.

Re: # 400

Only an Indian would love milions of dead human to resolve a political problem.

This comes from a paki!

Algay, Thanks for rehashing what I wrote in my post to Trichmir.

"The people that are talking about taliban taking over Punjab or walking towards panipat, simply forget that this is not the 17th century. Now the most heavily armed Pakistan army can't walk towards Panipat like the scantly armed Pathans can't walk towards Islamabad."

Can you think of something of your own? it is always Dwakin's meme or my posts.

I got to say you wish death on millions of Indians and Pakistanis in better English though!

borivili_express #399

Hindvi, welcome back.

#402
Well said, AlephNull.

Romair needs to get out more.

hamid mian,

It seems that now alt-F is getting in the game as well. Do you think it is time for him to send his group to help those who have been displaced from swat?

bulleya #392

{{....is it possible that when people were reciting poetry in delhi and inventing the zero in bangalore (or wherever else), similar barbarians rolled down from afghanistan, beat the crap out of everyone and went back......then came down again.......and again.....and again......}}

Yes, we are still in the age when the horse and the sword ruled and Islamic fanaticism was enough to convert brigands into an irresistible force.

{{gene pools don't change overnight......there is a reason that for a 1000 years, these guys came and had their way with everyone in south asia.....}}

The Taliban (and especially the Pakistani Punjabi Taliban) are a special breed with a unique genetic endowment. They are immune to the effects of fuel-air explosives, artillery shells and all modern munitions. It is impossible to disrupt their communications - look how the Pakistan Army was unable to jam their FM broadcasts in Swat (or was it Bajaur?). Their vehicles don't need diesel, petrol and lubricants to run. They may even have uqabs and ababeels on their side.

They are going to face a decently-equipped Indian Army in basically flat terrain - the plains of Punjab and the deserts of Rajasthan - and wipe the floor with them.

{{....all indians should be rooting for the pakistan army in swat....if these guys aren't stopped in nwfp, trust me, there is no one in india who will be able to stop them.....}}

Good. Let this natural evolution occur. Personally, I'm rooting for the Taliban. Before they reach Wagah they will have to take over Faisalabad, Gujranwala, Lahore and clean these cities of enlightened moderates. It should be amusing to watch that happen.

Once the Punjabi Talibani reach the international border, they are going to encounter a population in Indian Punjab, that is highly sympathetic to militant Islam and to the Talibani cause and will welcome them as liberators. They will be unstoppable.

Re: # 399

Any possible India-Pak war now will be very different from the previous war because of the new missile-based delivery capabilities.

India has one hundred nuclear armed ballistic missiles (Agni-1 and Agni II), and Brahmos the new supersonic cruise missile. The Indian Army is well trained, equipped and highly professional, and so is the Pakistan Army.

While nukes are a deterrent, even in a possible conventional India-Pak war the ballistic missiles inventory does matter. The Pakistani conventional warheads can reach all of India and can be very devastating, as was observed by many analysts when India contemplated surgical strikes after Mumbai attacks last year.

The ballistic missile inventory of Pak Army is substantial. It comprises Ghauri III and Shaheen III IRB’S; medium range Ghauri I and II and Shaheen II, and short range Hatf I- B, Abdali, Ghaznavi, Shaheen I and M -11 missiles. All the ballistic missiles can carry nuclear warheads. Nuclear and conventional weapon capable Babur Cruise missile is the new addition to Pakistan’s strategic weapon inventory. The number of ballistic missiles and warheads are almost the same as those of India. So there is a parity in nuclear weapons, which is a deterrent.

http://www.riazhaq.com/2009/01/india-pakistan-military-balance.htm l
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

Algay, No sindhi would want independence, if it means killing innocent Punjabis. Only an Indian would love milions of dead human to resolve a political problem.

Humanity should be ashamed of having people like you in its midst. tho!