The Villain of Villains

Re: # 57 riaz sahib,
for all the money and resources it robs Pakistan of, the armed forces of Pakistan work only to the extent of further enriching its elite (lowly jawans are cannon fodder; they do not count).

Re: # 59

There is no bughz-e mawiah; the civilians may be as corrupt but they don't have as many guns. The terrorists of Napak fouj are deadly and would go as far as rape, pillage, and genocide if they will have to. The genocide of East Pakistan is a shameful example of to what extent they will go. The current genocide is another where napak fouj has violated every international convention that there is on crimes against humanity. 2.5 million pakistanis are refugees within their own country. This equals the refugees that have come from Afghanistan.

Re: # 58

Can you honestly say that the key players in Pakistan's other institutions such as the legislature and the judiciary are less corrupt and more concerned about Pakistan's national interest than the military?

If you answers is yes, then I must say that you are a glowing example of bughz-e-Muawia rather than Hubb-e-Ali. It makes you just another one of dime-a-dozen hypocritical armchair critics enjoying the comforts of the West and you really don't give a hoot about the country or its people.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

Re: # 57

This piece of propaganda is the root cause of all evil (burai ji jaRR) in Pakistan.

"It is the only institution in Pakistan that is working,...."

The truth of the matter is that Fouj is THE institution in pakistan that is not working. It has not worked from the day one after August 14, 1947. The reason is in its making. This institution was established by East India Company as a mercenary enforcers to kill and torture Bengali peasants and occupy their land. Over 200 years of conditioning and brainwashing that the "local people" are inferior, stupid, and malignant and their life has no meaning exhibits itself every cornerstone of our state history. Look! if dsicipline and merit is the yardstick by which you measure the effectiveness of an organization then a mafia is even more disciplined and meritocrate than our fouj. If you want to rise in ranks in a mafia you have to be disciplined and show yourself worthy of your salt.

Re: # 56

I think it's irrational and dangerous to even think of dismantling Pak army as an institution for the sins of a few of its members.

It is the only institution in Pakistan that is working, especially when compared with corrupt, feudal political institutions (that constitute Pakistan's executive legislature) and the Pakistani judiciary ranked by TI as among the most corrupt institution in the nation and the world.

People who push this idea of disbanding Pak army are naively aiding and abetting the many enemies of Pakistan, within and without.

The Pak army should be reformed rather than dismantled, if Pakistan is to survive now and thrive in the future as an independent, democratic nation.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

#54, it is not about individuals that 'usurp', it is about an institution that produces usurpers at the top and therefore needs to be dismantled. The people of Pakistan on the other hand have nothing to do with how their state institutions has become perverted, the Pakistan Army has more to do with that.

TNITC masadi

Re: # 54

Of course it is fare and just to condemn whole army of haramkhors. Taking money to destroy your own country is not the only crime you have committed, but everything which is wrong today in Pakistan is because of you haramkhor fouj including lost East Pakistan. The fact remains that you took 1.5 billion dollars to kill the children of your fellow citizens - in other words every piece of bread you are feeding your own children are drenched in the blood of your neighbors. I don't understand why you have to be so guilty conscious of your actions; price was right, wasn't it.

#53 Posted by Maj(r)Azhar
Re#38
Khyber, this article was neither aimed at defending self serving dictators(it is not possible to defend the indefensible)nor eulogizing Asif Zardari. It was an effort to give the devil his due. Condemning all army personnel for the wrongs done by usurpers is not fair. It is like holding citizens of a country responsible for what politicians do.

Imran hamara sher hey baaqi her pher hey.....

hamid writes "what is preventing the government from declaring the taliban and their supporters guilty of treason and lining up folks like imran khan, qazi hussain, khawaja saad rafiq, hamid gul and maulana fazloo in front of a firing squad ? ."

Just because IK understand the US game (and reads masadi) does not mean he should be put in front of a firing squad. Fortunately for all its BS, the government of Pakistan has not stooped down to the level of Chowk Staff.....

TNITC masadi

Re: #
Watching public opinion in Pakistan is the key to success for all parties involved in bringing peace and stability to Pakistan. With Taliban's recent well-publicized excesses in Swat, Pakistan public opinion has begun to turn against the Taliban. But public opinion is fickle and it can change again. While it is understandable that there will be refugees who must be well cared for, the Pakistani public opinion will shift against Pakistani government if the military is seen as displacing or killing large numbers of innocent civilians caught in the battle, or the US continues its drone attacks that end up killing innocent civilians. There is a lot of sensitivity required during the counterinsurgency operations.

Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

hamid writes "masadi mian,

exactly! ..... it is not the army's job to provide " health care and education and food for the over 40% food deprived " ...."

Hamid sahib, heed my sincere advice, get a goddamned education. When military affairs predominate all governmental decisions and indeed the government is controlled by the military then those missiles worth tens of millions and the leeches and retired generals who profit off the poverty of the people get to have their say where the money gets spent and what national priorities are. You talk like a damn ignoramus which makes me seriously doubt the claims of some here that you know whats going on in Pakistan. All you 'know' is your fact less hatred of Islam because somehow it interferes with your boozing.

TNITC masadi

Re: # 48
Droopy has much more important things to do ...like working on cutting the retail price of gasoline.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

........what is preventing the government from declaring the taliban and their supporters guilty of treason and lining up folks like imran khan, qazi hussain, khawaja saad rafiq, hamid gul and maulana fazloo in front of a firing squad ? ...... it would be nice to see pictures of their dead bodies up like that sri lankan trouble maker ..........

....... where is the droopy eyed cj when you need him ?

There are many political parties today that are shedding tears over the military operation against the Taliban, despite a realisation across Pakistan that the Taliban are our enemies and must be destroyed, given that all other options have failed. But then it should not be so surprising given the history of some of these parties, which were propped up by the regime of General Zia-ul Haq, and were at the forefront of sowing the seeds of the extremism and terrorism we see today. Their hypocrisy and lies should be challenged by civil society and the media so that they may not mislead the nation.
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/

Re: # 45

Amen to that !!!

Shoaib Mansoor can write the lyrics & Junaid Jamshed can come out of his retirement & sing AGAIN (no coke deal involved this time) & may be we can have a remix version of it as well sounding like a eurotrash music!!!

& who knows a punjabi version may follow ... sung by Naseebo Lal !!!