Maj Azhar May 10, 2009
#77 Posted by tahir on May 24, 2009 10:30:58 pm
Re: # 54
Major sahib, get off Chowq, the heat will burn you. You have no clue how sick and tired the nation is of the KKK.
Major sahib, get off Chowq, the heat will burn you. You have no clue how sick and tired the nation is of the KKK.
#76 Posted by ahmedmadani on May 24, 2009 9:07:30 pm
Re: # 75 Army facing india is farce. There all smuggling going under supervision. Recently air marshall agrees with Masadi incidently. he said we were never attacked by india they took action after our attacks. So if we declare peace on India no army is needed. Army wants war with india policy , without that what is reason for armed forces in such numbers. Also india does not want to capture part for fear of muslims resitaance in India.
Army is needed for kashmir liberation. But situation is getting murkey as they are saying it must be solved peacefully. Then again we do not need army. People from top to bottom do not want army as they are cutting their strength by denying money to them ( no body pays real tax).
My only problem is weak side peace intentions have no value.
It is tough situation.
Masadi is going at source of problems of pakistan and to divert attention people will start mud throwing. Pakistan does not need democracy but needs people democarcy like china with muslim religious undercurrent.
Army is needed for kashmir liberation. But situation is getting murkey as they are saying it must be solved peacefully. Then again we do not need army. People from top to bottom do not want army as they are cutting their strength by denying money to them ( no body pays real tax).
My only problem is weak side peace intentions have no value.
It is tough situation.
Masadi is going at source of problems of pakistan and to divert attention people will start mud throwing. Pakistan does not need democracy but needs people democarcy like china with muslim religious undercurrent.
#75 Posted by RiazHaq on May 24, 2009 7:55:46 pm
Re: # 63
Masadi,
Your suggestion that Pak army be disbanded is akin to prescribing a very strong medicine that will almost certainly kill the patient, that is Pakistan as a national entity.
I personally believe strong but reformed Pakistani army is needed to deal with real external and internal threats the nation faces today. In addition to a vicious armed insurgency by a committed but misguided band of Taliban in along the Western borders, India has about 33 infantry divisions, of which Twenty-four are on Pakistan borders. India has three armored divisions, all three are positioned on Pakistan borders. India has all three of its mechanized divisions deployed near Pakistan borders.
But, just for the sake of argument, let's assume that the threats from India and Taliban are not real. Even then, don't you think having a million unemployed armed and trained soldiers will cause a lot of damage in Pakistan and the region?
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
Masadi,
Your suggestion that Pak army be disbanded is akin to prescribing a very strong medicine that will almost certainly kill the patient, that is Pakistan as a national entity.
I personally believe strong but reformed Pakistani army is needed to deal with real external and internal threats the nation faces today. In addition to a vicious armed insurgency by a committed but misguided band of Taliban in along the Western borders, India has about 33 infantry divisions, of which Twenty-four are on Pakistan borders. India has three armored divisions, all three are positioned on Pakistan borders. India has all three of its mechanized divisions deployed near Pakistan borders.
But, just for the sake of argument, let's assume that the threats from India and Taliban are not real. Even then, don't you think having a million unemployed armed and trained soldiers will cause a lot of damage in Pakistan and the region?
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
#74 Posted by peonofthewest on May 24, 2009 7:11:41 pm
Re: # 73
masadi,
in all seriousness you know jack shit about the life of a common man in Pakistan
same is true for majority of Pakistani interactors on this site
masadi,
in all seriousness you know jack shit about the life of a common man in Pakistan
same is true for majority of Pakistani interactors on this site
#73 Posted by masadi on May 24, 2009 6:39:30 pm
#72, I have more ideas about the poor than you'll ever have your __________. You adopted this name because of my exposure of peons of the west on this site, that by itself tell us my influence on the house slaves....
TNITC masadi
TNITC masadi
#72 Posted by peonofthewest on May 24, 2009 6:37:36 pm
Re: # 69
masadi said
peons of the West like you can never understand self worth or self respect
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oye yaar masadi saab meiN haath joRta hooN meri jaan chhoR do saab :(
meiN ghareeb aadmi hooN saab, far more ghareeb that you saab :(
hence you donot speak for the ghareeb in Pakistan because you have no idea saab
masadi said
peons of the West like you can never understand self worth or self respect
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oye yaar masadi saab meiN haath joRta hooN meri jaan chhoR do saab :(
meiN ghareeb aadmi hooN saab, far more ghareeb that you saab :(
hence you donot speak for the ghareeb in Pakistan because you have no idea saab
#70 Posted by tahmed32 on May 24, 2009 6:06:30 pm
Prof. Masadi: which school in the US is it again from which you dropped out?
#69 Posted by masadi on May 24, 2009 5:57:44 pm
#68 peons of the West like you can never understand self worth or self respect, depart from me you miserable satan....
TNITC masadi
TNITC masadi
#68 Posted by tahmed32 on May 24, 2009 5:56:19 pm
Prof. Masadi #67 I understand they offered to make you Principal of the Sorbonne as well. Except that your french was too fluent even for the french to understand.
#67 Posted by masadi on May 24, 2009 5:54:47 pm
#66 Yes I was intellectually too superior for an American community college that is why the univ of Edinburgh offered me one of 4 full scholarships they give WW (world wide) for their Phd program.
TNITC masadi
TNITC masadi
#66 Posted by tahmed32 on May 24, 2009 5:53:08 pm
masadi: you couldnt get admission into the community college? was it because you were considered intellectually too superior?
#65 Posted by masadi on May 24, 2009 5:46:01 pm
#64 hamid, first of all you need to address me as SIR since I am your intellectual superior, second, I never attended community college, third it is not an intelligent recommendation to cut off your leg because your toe is bleeding, that is precisely what is going on in Swat. Over a million people displaced, God knows the livelihood of millions more lost for 2000 thugs, is that your solution to the problem?
TNITC masadi
TNITC masadi
#64 Posted by hamidm2 on May 24, 2009 4:24:01 pm
Re: # 63
masadi,
.... let me remind you that all that wonderful american community college education was wasted on you ...........
........ having said that, what the heck do you propose we do with these seventh century barbarians who behead barbers, dig up people from their graves to hang them and chop up female singers after making them dance through the streets? .......... i know that god-crazed folks like urstrly get off on stuff like this, but you claim to be some kind of communist ..... do you see this as part of the class war against the evil elite?
masadi,
.... let me remind you that all that wonderful american community college education was wasted on you ...........
........ having said that, what the heck do you propose we do with these seventh century barbarians who behead barbers, dig up people from their graves to hang them and chop up female singers after making them dance through the streets? .......... i know that god-crazed folks like urstrly get off on stuff like this, but you claim to be some kind of communist ..... do you see this as part of the class war against the evil elite?
#63 Posted by masadi on May 24, 2009 10:22:33 am
#57 Alumni WW, that is where you and I have serious disagreement. The only institution that is "working" is insuring that no other institution works. The reason for the corruption and stunted growth of civilian institutions is becuase a non democratic, both intrinsically and extrinsically, set up institution has been dominating its affairs and doing the bidding of outsiders. Reform wont cut it, the entire military needs to be disbanded in the officers corps and rebuilt, otherwise it will keep spitting up dictators. Those that want to keep the army as is are Pakistan's worst enemies and sellouts to the colonials....
TNITC msadi
TNITC msadi
#62 Posted by banjara286 on May 24, 2009 9:50:38 am
incidentally, urstryl is right about the mindset around wich the armed forces of Pakistan, and also its civil service, have been cultivated. to them the ordinary citizens of the nation are sub-human at best. such institution cannot be effectively reformed except by first cutting them down to size so that the future members learn to exist within their skin.
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