Khalid Sohail May 11, 2009
#21 Posted by drsohail on June 1, 2009 8:44:24 am
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dear foggy...your name might be foggy but you have clarity of thought. thanks for your insightful comments. many philosophers, poets and political activists used their solitary confinement in jails to create masterpieces...i am impressed and fascinated by that phenomenon...i and ali hashmi, a psychiatrist and a grandson of faiz ahmed faiz are planning to write more about faiz's life...sincerely sohail
dear foggy...your name might be foggy but you have clarity of thought. thanks for your insightful comments. many philosophers, poets and political activists used their solitary confinement in jails to create masterpieces...i am impressed and fascinated by that phenomenon...i and ali hashmi, a psychiatrist and a grandson of faiz ahmed faiz are planning to write more about faiz's life...sincerely sohail
#20 Posted by foggy1 on June 1, 2009 3:59:08 am
After reading about Faiz in your article,i could not help but update myself on Depth psychology.i can ‘t help thinking that depth psychology is the ornament of a qualification that a psychotherapist can wear as the ultimate declaration to the world;proclaiming that his “brains� have developed to the highest perimeter, with which to appreciate the highest most sensitive form of human intellectual activity of the Arts.
but thinking of Faiz in prison, helped me to see that depth psychology can become an all powerful universally Acknowledged probe to help the psychotherapist reach the innards of any prisons that torture many a sensitive genius with gentle souls;a tool to empower the psychotherapist to set them free.for after all, all the talented inmates are not like Faiz.he did not need psychotherapy.he mastered his own self and will and came out a better man.this is a pure case of "Stone walls do not a prison make�....but the others lie in a shell of shock of physical torture exposing their sensitive brilliance in the uselessness of utter helplessness. they need psycho therapy to heal this wound of exposure.the poor gentle souls just wanted betterment for humanities’!! sake.theirs was a seamless vision.not patched with ugliness of either politics, creed,or money. and here these poor souls made enemies out of the powerful lot without even knowing!in understanding them (and their work which requires a big calibre of understanding) depth psychology is indeed therapeutic.we need more humanists and psychotherapists armed with depth psychology.
but thinking of Faiz in prison, helped me to see that depth psychology can become an all powerful universally Acknowledged probe to help the psychotherapist reach the innards of any prisons that torture many a sensitive genius with gentle souls;a tool to empower the psychotherapist to set them free.for after all, all the talented inmates are not like Faiz.he did not need psychotherapy.he mastered his own self and will and came out a better man.this is a pure case of "Stone walls do not a prison make�....but the others lie in a shell of shock of physical torture exposing their sensitive brilliance in the uselessness of utter helplessness. they need psycho therapy to heal this wound of exposure.the poor gentle souls just wanted betterment for humanities’!! sake.theirs was a seamless vision.not patched with ugliness of either politics, creed,or money. and here these poor souls made enemies out of the powerful lot without even knowing!in understanding them (and their work which requires a big calibre of understanding) depth psychology is indeed therapeutic.we need more humanists and psychotherapists armed with depth psychology.
#19 Posted by drsohail on May 18, 2009 4:53:36 pm
Re: # 18
Dear Ras, you are more than welcome. Keep up the good work. sincerely sohail
Dear Ras, you are more than welcome. Keep up the good work. sincerely sohail
#17 Posted by drsohail on May 17, 2009 5:17:43 am
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dear laddu, thanks for sharing the milestones of your sacred journey of self discovery. were there any personalities and writers that inspired you? how do you think other people can be inspired to leave the highway of tradition and follow the trail of their hearts?
by the way how old are you and where do you live?
affectionately
sohail
dear laddu, thanks for sharing the milestones of your sacred journey of self discovery. were there any personalities and writers that inspired you? how do you think other people can be inspired to leave the highway of tradition and follow the trail of their hearts?
by the way how old are you and where do you live?
affectionately
sohail
#16 Posted by laddu on May 17, 2009 2:55:00 am
Sohail ji,
Faiz rejected the external God and found the Godliness inside himself........
He was a Prophet who did not want to be a Prophet.......like a Zen Guru......I am surprised that Pakistanis are yet to understand this secret of the hidden Imams like him.......
Faiz rejected the external God and found the Godliness inside himself........
He was a Prophet who did not want to be a Prophet.......like a Zen Guru......I am surprised that Pakistanis are yet to understand this secret of the hidden Imams like him.......
#15 Posted by laddu on May 17, 2009 2:50:41 am
Sohail ji,
Let me tell you some secrets.
I was brought up in a very public schoolish surroundings.
I bowed down to the God without knowing who is bowing down and for what he needs to boe down to.
I revolted against the god.......and found myself.......I stayed away from home in seclusion , rejecting all wordly ties wandering the jungles, caves, mountains in search of myself......till I reached a place where I found myself in deep silence ......I became meditative and found joy in the meditative silence for quite some time........I dissolved all my desires...except for one.......the desire to be a Guru and a Prophet.........I am getting over that now.......
let me also tell you, that Prophet Mohammad did not cross that desire to be a prophet and his surrender to Allah was not perfect.
I can speak with authority from my own personal experiences.
Let me tell you some secrets.
I was brought up in a very public schoolish surroundings.
I bowed down to the God without knowing who is bowing down and for what he needs to boe down to.
I revolted against the god.......and found myself.......I stayed away from home in seclusion , rejecting all wordly ties wandering the jungles, caves, mountains in search of myself......till I reached a place where I found myself in deep silence ......I became meditative and found joy in the meditative silence for quite some time........I dissolved all my desires...except for one.......the desire to be a Guru and a Prophet.........I am getting over that now.......
let me also tell you, that Prophet Mohammad did not cross that desire to be a prophet and his surrender to Allah was not perfect.
I can speak with authority from my own personal experiences.
#14 Posted by jrabamind on May 16, 2009 11:40:15 pm
Dear Sohail,
A very interesting read with valuable insights.
The ups and downs of movements, and how these
reflect on the lives of the main players in that
movement is a very interesting topic.
Keep writing..
Prashant
A very interesting read with valuable insights.
The ups and downs of movements, and how these
reflect on the lives of the main players in that
movement is a very interesting topic.
Keep writing..
Prashant
#13 Posted by drsohail on May 16, 2009 7:30:49 pm
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dear laddu, i fully agree with you that most people are the outcome of social, religious and cultural conditioning and only a few can rise above it to see with their own eyes and think with their own minds. they are in a minority, a creative minority, living amongst traditional majority. what i am curious is how you developed such a personality to travel on the road less traveled? and how you cope when you are judged and criticized by the majority?
sincerely sohail
dear laddu, i fully agree with you that most people are the outcome of social, religious and cultural conditioning and only a few can rise above it to see with their own eyes and think with their own minds. they are in a minority, a creative minority, living amongst traditional majority. what i am curious is how you developed such a personality to travel on the road less traveled? and how you cope when you are judged and criticized by the majority?
sincerely sohail
#12 Posted by laddu on May 16, 2009 4:41:48 pm
Sohail ji,
Let us be true to ourselves....before we proclaim these religious "truths".....Faiz brought back man his dignity and humanity without recourse to some imaginary Allah........
...is truth is provocative it is because it cleanses those dirty sludges implanted in our minds since childhood.....
Let us be true to ourselves....before we proclaim these religious "truths".....Faiz brought back man his dignity and humanity without recourse to some imaginary Allah........
...is truth is provocative it is because it cleanses those dirty sludges implanted in our minds since childhood.....
#11 Posted by drsohail on May 15, 2009 8:04:41 am
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dear laddu....i want to ask you a friendly question. i am curious how you developed a provocative personality?
sincerely,
sohail
dear laddu....i want to ask you a friendly question. i am curious how you developed a provocative personality?
sincerely,
sohail
#10 Posted by laddu on May 14, 2009 6:27:12 pm
Compare Faiz with Mohammad and one can easily distinguish a real revolutionary from a charlatan!!
#9 Posted by laddu on May 14, 2009 6:25:16 pm
So, many think that paying lip service to Faiz and discussing him in seminars is the only thing Pakistanis can do about Faiz?
Faiz was a dynamite. The rest are all insignificant before him.
Faiz was a dynamite. The rest are all insignificant before him.
#8 Posted by laddu on May 14, 2009 3:19:18 pm
Pakistani momeens need to read more of Faiz instead of Quran.
#7 Posted by hamidm2 on May 13, 2009 5:28:00 am
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masadi mian,
..... if you are nice to dr shohail he might give you a discount ...... also if you keep this up he just might have you committed to an insane asylum where you can sing your looney tunes ........
masadi mian,
..... if you are nice to dr shohail he might give you a discount ...... also if you keep this up he just might have you committed to an insane asylum where you can sing your looney tunes ........
#6 Posted by sunil7090 on May 12, 2009 11:59:51 pm
human being is the most selfish of all the animals,all or any of his/her actions can be termed as selfish depending upon circumstances/situations.this applies to all human beings whether messenger of god or devil.purpoted letter as per which faiz doubts himself may please be quoted,but why in the first place such exalted non political person had to go to jail??
#5 Posted by masadi on May 11, 2009 4:18:23 pm
oh and don't call yourself a humanist, you are a disgrace to everything human, enslaving yourself to the white man and his barbaric ways does not mean you're a 'humanist'- talk about double speak, they call war, making peace, and they call peace deals, satanic and then they call butchers of people and maintainers of inhumane systems (the psycho shrinks), "humanists". There is more 'humanism' in ravenous wolves than in your kind of people, Sohail.
Have a nice day,
TNITC masadi
Have a nice day,
TNITC masadi
#4 Posted by masadi on May 11, 2009 4:14:45 pm
what is totally outrageous is that these morons have open access to FP articles, showing the world that our "scholarship" is limited to dumbass peons of the West and others are censored and we are supposed to just step back and relax....
#3 Posted by masadi on May 11, 2009 4:13:19 pm
Sohail writes "Being a humanist and a psychotherapist I thought it would be a novel idea to study those letters from a psychological perspective.."
KS these two, humanist and psychotherapist cannot and do not go together. They are opposites, get that in your hollow skull. Psychotherapy is an invention of modernity where community has broken down and individual solutions to systemic problems are sought just to keep inhumanity that produces those problems going. If you want to understand Faiz, you need to get at species being, something a psychobabilogilist will have no clue about...
Have a nice day,
TNITC masadi
KS these two, humanist and psychotherapist cannot and do not go together. They are opposites, get that in your hollow skull. Psychotherapy is an invention of modernity where community has broken down and individual solutions to systemic problems are sought just to keep inhumanity that produces those problems going. If you want to understand Faiz, you need to get at species being, something a psychobabilogilist will have no clue about...
Have a nice day,
TNITC masadi
#2 Posted by laddu on May 11, 2009 2:50:17 pm
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#1 Posted by Hasho on May 11, 2009 2:26:14 pm
"Being a humanist and a psychotherapist I thought it would be a novel idea to study those letters from a psychological perspective as they might provide us with a few glimpses of the dynamics of not only the personality, politics and philosophy of Faiz Ahmad Faiz'"
I could not find any psychological perspective and your analysis in the whole article. Where is it?
I could not find any psychological perspective and your analysis in the whole article. Where is it?
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