Political Slogans in Pakistan

Those who came around 1947 have no problems, I know so many who are a million miles away from Tafa Londonwalla's non-sense. Its the ones who sold off properties and came much later that are spoiling it for the rest of them.

There are older languages than Urdu, their speakers don't create such a fuss as the Urdu-daans do!

there are many migrants who migrated to rest of country, i have myself seen and met migrants from UP, Bihar, dehli and other parts of india setteled in rawalpinidi sialkot multan lahore.

And guess what they are living therer lives as any other normal citizens.

When you get discriminated and you fight against it isint your cause suppose to end the discrimnation instead of being the discrimnator yourself.

this is exactly what MQM did after reaching the helm of power with every hook and crook possible they become the discrimnator themselves, thats the reason they cannot afford to lose in elections, thats why they don't have any integrity to follow any line whom they should and should not be in goverment with and precicely thats the reason they use all kind of ploys to keep citizens of Karachi under fear.

But they got caught red handed live on tv on 12th may and still have shamless gut to deny it and play the vicitim.

12th may is no new things for people of karachi they are touched by MQM terrorism and facisim in one way or another only this time the rest of world seen it too.

Re: # 48
We are talking about those other than, Punjabis, Pathans, Baluchis, Sindhis, Potohari, Saraiki and others who are not identified as sons of the people who speak the language of Urdu and comprise of those who "migrated" leaving all materials and property whatever little they had not to mention also left behind part of the family their relatives only and only for the cause of Pakistan supposedly a nation to be founded for the Muslims of the greater undivided India.

Do you get it now, this is how the Urdu Speaking Migrants--The Muhajirs identify themselves, if you don't get it, you won't get it.

The universally recongized term Muhajir appears as following in the Encyclopedia Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhajir_(Pakistan)

Muhajir (also known as Urdu-speaking people) (Urdu: Ù…Û?اجر) is a term used to describe some Pakistanis as Urdu speaking Muslims who after partition of British India, migrated to Pakistan. As stated incorrectly a number of times, the term 'Muhajir' does not mean a refugee but rather a migrant. In Urdu, Muhajir is referred to a person who has performed a 'Hijrat', meaning migration.

The term 'Urdu speaking' is still not the correct term to identify a group of people since many of these people are of diverse ethnic groups, who arrived from various parts of India after Pakistan's independence. Many can trace their family roots to the Middle East, Persia and Central Asia as well. The one uniting factor for the people regardless of their origin is that their mother tongue is Urdu

Nadia, do you have a problem with the people who gathered and unanimously chose to be functional and voiced with Qaid-e-Azam for the formation of a nation for the Muslims of Undivided India?

Apparently so, it has become a normal practice of those non-Urdu speaking natives of the land who while became a part of Pakistan remaining native to the lands they were originally from, since last several years it has been observed that such native of lands who did not migrate when they chose to call names to all Muhajirs/Urdu speaking migrants that migrated they now conveniently use the term MQM as they find it safe to do so.

However, you should never forget that these Muhajirs without mentioning their contributions to the cause of Paksitan are here to stay, and will not disappear regardless of the expletives used by the attempting to oppress non-Muhajirs of Pakistan.

By camaflouging behind the term MQM people of your kind are earning nothing but hatred multiplied by hatred many times and the place for such individuals in the hereafter is reserved and well lit regardless of their size of contribution they are not serving the cause for which Pakistan was founded which logically excludes them from the faith they claim to be followers of.

Its hightime that Muslims of Pakistan recognize that other than pre-identified ethnicities and regionals such as Punjabi,Sindhi, Baluchi,Potohari, Saraiki, Pathan and many others Urdu Speaking Migrants commonly known as Muhajirs cannot and will not be excluded from Pakistan at any cost no matter how much people like you(Nadia Khan)feel like igniting fires of hatred and no matter how much you(Nadia Khan)wish to isolate the Urdu Speaking Migrants-The Muhajirs in Pakistan, we chose to participate in the formation of Pakistan, we stand by our committment and shall continue to participate in the active progress of Pakistan.

Yes, there are good bad and ugly in every nation, every ethnic and every regional native and it cant be discounted that there may be some who took things in their own hands and pursued in less than civil manner, however such opportunity can in no way be permitted to stereo-type the entire population of Urdu Speaking Migrants--The Muhajirs.

It is my earnest request that if you are a believer, a Muslim by faith, you should discontinue further aggressive attempts to fuel a fire that could consume more than you can dream of, and prepare yourself for the hereafter.

I close with hopes to see an article from you where you intensify your efforts by writing on uniting and de-polarizing and quote the following biblical proverb which extends beyond Christianity in it's expression:

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone

(while he is universally applicable to all genders)

Pakistani polluticians are muttarwa saab.they have been baadnaaming peon's religion and country for many years saab.It makes peon very angry saab.peon is not at aal impressed saab.

Re: # 49
"Mohajir has now become a universally recognized term to identify the ethnicity of Pakistanis whose primary language is Urdu, and who left behind everything near and dear to them in what is now India, to be part of a new beginning for ALL Muslims of then India in the form of Pakistan."

By whom??
the jagirdars or there parties, or the likes of mqm in rest of Pakistan the curropt the fascist the terrorist.

The chaudhri's of Gujrat, sheikh rasheed, former dictators, the ppp headed by mr. 10%.

Who would do or say anything to stay in power again just like mqm.

Re: # 47
[b]Shame on you and anyone who singles out MQM or Mohajirs and forgets the theifs and robbers, rapists and murderers, racists and separatists from the rest of Pakistan. It is obvious Nadia Khan hates MQM and Altaf Hussain both. Her previous two articles against them were more direct.[/b]

you are right RR we should not forget the likes of MQM in rest of pakistan. The theifs, robbers, rapists, murders, facist and terrorists.

Re: # 49
Relax RR. Its good that we are talking about it and venting the feelings. MQM, or for that matter any political party, does not have a halo around it. Its a very simple idea and one which political science recognizes as one of the most effective: fascist. MQM has employed just about every trick in the book to rise to heights using the time tested methods and if anything, deserves to be praised for maintaining strict discipline and secular outlook. One more good thing to come out of it is that they are not ambiguous: they have a clear stand on things that matter to them.

Strip this ethnic shit and inside everyone is the same. Just as I am sick and tired of this whole Pakistan Ideology thing, about time we stop taking the ethnic apologists seriously. Chill out.

#48 It's funny you should ask that kaka. It hurts when someone shows you the mirror and it hits you in the face and you don't wanna admit your own faults and instead you ask childish questions. FYI Mohajir has now become a universally recognized term to identify the ethnicity of Pakistanis whose primary language is Urdu, and who left behind everything near and dear to them in what is now India, to be part of a new beginning for ALL Muslims of then India in the form of Pakistan. After all, had they not been instrumental in the creation and then construction of Pakistan, we wouldn't even be having this debate. As for the soil, the same soil that gave birth to "Kafir-e-Azam" Jinnah, because he was different from the majority. Same soil whose sons from the largest province of Punjab had chosen the anti-Pakistan Unionist party instead of the Muslim League in the first election. And the same soil where anti-Pakistan Bacha Khan is still the hero of Pathans and whose party still rules Pakhtoonkhwa province. The same soil where the mullahs who opposed Pakistan are still trying to destroy it and yet have support of the so-called sons of the soil. Yes, the same soil where Prime Ministers from Sindh return in coffins and sons of soil in uniform keep invading their own country. I could go on but digest this if you can Kaka, don't start a fire if it can burn you too.

Sons of soil still call themselves 'Mohajir'.... what soil are we talking about? ;)

So what's new Nadia Khan? You couldn't find any fault with the sons of soil who have been soiling Pakistan's name for the last 60 years? Shame on you and anyone who singles out MQM or Mohajirs and forgets the theifs and robbers, rapists and murderers, racists and separatists from the rest of Pakistan. It is obvious Nadia Khan hates MQM and Altaf Hussain both. Her previous two articles against them were more direct. She's gotten a little clever this time and used the crutch of a populist topic to again attack her two nemesis.

If Chowk is so keen on giving anti-MQM and anti-Mohajir racists a platform to spit poison in the faces of tens of millions of Mohajir voters who elect MQM candidates in every election, then so be it. The leaders of the rest of Pakistan have for the last 60+ years used Mohajirs as a punching bag to deflect their own failures by poisoning the minds of Pakistanis against the economic and social successes of Mohajirs. From Ayuub to Nawaz and MMA to Imran, they all feel they can take on a politically oppressed minority, whose biggest crime was at one time being not the sons of soil. Regardless of Mohajirs' role in creating Pakistan, they attack Mohajirs without fear and get away with it. Pakistan Zinda Bad.

Did anyone mentioned

Agar na magr, altaf nagar!

Sab say kehdo saaf saaf, apna qaid hay altaf!?

Re: # 43
Rhyming bhi to karni hay na bhai! :p

LOL @Leena's comment.

Very catchy indeed: 'Ye tera Pakistan hai na mera Pakistan hai, yeh uska Pakistan hai jo sadr e Pakistan hai'

Couldn't agree more

Yes. Lets not. Then why say kaptaan? I am sorry to differ, but I guess every kaptaan is not jarnail, can not be a jarnail. So lets say jarnail. :)

Re: # 41

Actually a more appropriate version seems to be:

Tera Pakistan hay na maira Pakistan hay; us ka pakistan hay jo fauj main kaptaan hay!

Why devoid a whole bunch of inter-pass jarnails from the prize? Lord knows they are eligible to be Sadr e Pakistan more than the Sadr himself.

Some non MQM slogans,

'Zaalimo qazi aa raha hai!' .....

'Ye tera Pakistan hai na mera Pakistan hai, yeh uska Pakistan hai jo sadr e Pakistan hai'
(a timeless beauty, now I must say!)

'Aa gaya sher, chaa gaya sher'

'Utay Shair, Thaley Teer'

'Mian day naaray wajjan gay'

'Benazir aee gi, rozgar laye gi'

MQM should bring more brethren from India ( Bihar,UP, Bengal and Assam)...I think, miserable muslas should taste the fruit, their last prophet ( Muhammed Ali Jinnah) brought for them....

Long Live MQM, Long live Jinnah...

have you heard tehrik-e-insaaf's sologans

Insaaf insaaf kab karu gey insaaf

and ..

Insaaf insaaf ley ke rahein gey insaaf.


or Dushmanon ke shaamat ayi Imran bhai, Imran bhai..

or more latest or recent arrival of imran khan in Karachi

Altaf ke shaamat ayi Imran bhai, Imran bhai

Re: # 37

And may these days and years be reduced to a big fat (as fat as his murderous neck) NOTHING in the hereafter.

All of you say Ameen!

The meaningful bumper slogan I made is
"Salke din ho hazzar, altafbhai jiye hazzar sal"
Let year has 1000day and Quaid E Awam Hussain guide for 1000 years."

good article Nadia.

so pakitan becomes salogistan? :)

the "local" slogans for parties are totally different from the mainstream parties.

There is one which really is my first memory of "religious hatred", was a slogan of some sunni party in gujarkhan.

on second thought i better not write it !!! :)

Re: # 34

Ofcourse. Just the idea that except in the dreams of our FO spokesman, the real world is not too keen to let us have another province. But I am open to enlightenment. Please do so if you have any practical ideas; even a slight realistic hope would do (I am not a fan of Taliban taking over India).

By the way do you know that our FO is sharply divided over this one? On strict ethnic lines. With the Sindhis and Baluchis not caring too much about Kashmir. I remember asking an ambassador this very question and referreing him to SU's Professor Nizamani's "Ethnic dimensions of Pakistan's Foreign Policy" in this regard. He dodged the question; and on tea when I persisted said, baita is tarah kay sawalat nahi poocha kartay! Its a sad fact but its there, more than you would like to think.

Re: # 33
hmmm ....
Now I do agree with you. When confronted with deep rooted, uneducated prejudices, theres always a definite need to learn! Fouz would you do the honours of disclosing the origins? :p

Re: # 32
yes, but it does only karachiites. punjabis are immune to reality.

Reality bites. Does it not? :)

re #24 - 28
r u guyz for real? u make me sick; honestly. i had thought better of u all. but one lives and learns, i guess.

good day.

oops pls. read Re # 27,28

Re: # 26,27

Yeah with KESC playing havoc and 'Paris ki shamain' lingering on must be enjoying candle light dinners.Bar-B_Cue Tonite? :)

Re: # 27

Well you can take the word of another loyal karachiite that our shaamain, as indeed our dophairain, have indeed become like Paris - of the 15th century! :p

Re: # 25
and you wont believe it, a little while back I was told by a 'loyal' karachiite, "log to yunhi baatain banatay hain, ab to karachi ki shaamain bhi Paris jaisee ho gaeen hain"! :P

A promise 62 years old.... reminds me of this

uss nay kaha
mein nay maan lia
uss nay israar kia
mujhay shak guzra
aur jab uss nay qasam uthaee
mujhay yaqeen ho gaya wo jhoot bol raha hai

:)

Re: # 23

Other slogans of the family are "HAM KARACHI KO PARIS BANA DAINGAY" It is repeated just to gain votes and further squander funds and both the persons making and hearing that statement know it is incorrect. What would you call that? I would call that a lie.

Re: # 23

We lie when we put up something so improbable as Kashmir's becoming Pakistan and dupe the population into believing that all our problems will be solved thereby. I am all for the peaceful resolution of Kashmir someday but honestly do we all not know that its not coming to Pakistan as such? Apart from the rhetoric (Muslim brotherhood, UN resolution, India suddenly becoming charitable towards Pakistan), I would like to know what realistic expectations do we have of that?

Re: # 22
first of all what really matters - from a moral standpoint - is a resolution of the problem which fulfills the aspirations of the kashmiris themselves. it may be accession to Pakistan, to India, outright independence, or some other (as yet unidentified) possibility.

coming back to ur question, from my viewpoint any of the above outcomes has a non-zero chance of happening; so i guess that answers it. it is certainly possible; how probable it is, is a different question to which, i suspect, no one has an answer.

except, it seems, u! what struck me was your claim to know that kashmir banega pakistan is a lie. how do u know that with certainty?

Re: # 21

Just one question. Is it possible? 62 years of being part of India and can we now honestly expect it to become part of the state of Pakistan?

Re: # 20

everyone knows that his is a lie? how?

Why are we forgetting the all time favourite KASHMIR BANAY GA PAKISTAN! :P

Never in the history of political slogans has a promise been repeated for so many years. And the wonderful thing is that everyone knows its a lie.

It is strange that the writer has selected only slogans from Punjab and Karachi. The rest of the nations are like some non-entities whose slogan have completely been ignored as if they don't exist here. Like ' we demand control of our own land' or 'Pashto should be made the official language of Pashtun land". Do they seem too unbearable to give attention to?

Re: # 13..very well siad,unfortunately Pakistani Politicians talk about Democracy but don't have democracy in their own parties.
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/

Actions are needed for a true REVOLUTION in Pakistan not slogans.
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/

Chowkstaff surely you should have some standards for publishing articles, this person can barely form coherent sentences.

"JAAG PUNJABI JAAG, THERI PUGG NU LAGEE LAATH



asl mee



"JAAG PUNJABI JAAG, THERI PUGG NU LAGEyE Dagh



thaa...

Lathi Goli ki sarkar naheen chaley gee naheen chaley gee.


AGr na Magr
sirf Altaf Nagr


Girtee huwi dewaroon ko
aik dhaka our doo


surkh hey surkh hey
Asia surkh hey


Sabz hey Sabz hey
Asia subz hey


Zara soor say boule jeetay gee
Zara dheemay boule jeeta gee
zara hosh say boulee jeetey gee
Zara Josh say boule jeetay gee..

or ....aysee si musalsal taqrar

Re: # 12
We will move to a actual political party culture when...

1. The leaders start from grass roots, such as councilors, and work their way to the top rather than having their spouse/dad murdered ;

2. When the sons/daughters/nephews of a leader will not wait in the wings to assume daddy's seat;

3. When the administration has the right (and balls) to analyze the accounts of parties and their donors;

4. When leaders talk about issues rather than personality clashes;

5. When the electorate is educated enough to read the names and credentials of the candidates rather than mere symbols of the parties;

6. When...okay, I can't type so much...it will happen when hell freezes over.

That is imminent, isn't it?

When are we going to move from political parties which are nothing more then cult worship of their founders to actual political parties? Parties that are based upon political ideologies, of manifestos, of philosophies and leaders who attain their position because they are best suited to achieve those goals. They all scream about and participate in elections but never have elections within their ranks.

We can dismiss this too as just another thing that is wrong with the system, but this one is entirely doable. With enough questions in the media and embarrassing the leadership in public especially if the able rank and file decides to demand accountability it could be forced on the Rehnuma.

What about "Zaalimo jawab do, khoon ka hisaab do", "Na Klashan na tee-tee, Haqiqui Haqiqui", "Qarz utaro, mulk sanwaaro", "Benazir aayaygi, roazgar layaygi", 'Sindh main jis ko rehna hay to jiyay mahajir kehna hay", etc.

By the way, your take on MQM has its valid points; but do refrain from thinly disguising it as a balanced political anlysis of all parties. Come out bravely and say it like it is. You will find your supporters.

testing

oh and she missed few more

'MaareiN Goli kar deiN Charyyaa - Lines area lines area'
'Pahlay goli baad may baat - Azizabad Azizabad'
'Aiwaanu kay chaaru taraf - haq parast haq parast'
'Sab say kah do saaf saaf, apna quadi hay altaf'

spending half of the article over 'hum ko manzil nahi rahnuma chaihyee' while not saying a thing about others slogans is clearly a sign of the biased view of the author. Does she think 'Mard-e-momin mard-e-haq' slogan means no one is murd in pakistan besides the mardood zia-ul-haq? :)

For mullahs from secular student federations,
''chine chine guth sa sah'' means mullah get lost.

Dear writer

Slogans from the past

"Tara Masih ayega Bhutto ko latkyega" with young men from ISLAMI JAMIAT E TULABA running around the campus with an effigy of Bhutto hanging on a bamboo stick.

Then there was the infamous PML (N) or Punjab Muslim Leagues slogan:

"JAAG PUNJABI JAAG, THERI PUGG NU LAGEE LAATH"

Or, the doctored photo images of BB and Begum Nusrat B spread across Punjab by the PML-N, yet that did not get your kind attention.

Or, the multitude of anti Shia slogans written across the country, Jihadi slogans YET all you could point out was the MQM slogans.

I can sit here and defend MQM sloganeering but that would be futile for many people like yourself have no capacity to understand or comprehend that there could be a very good reason for such sloganeering.

Then there was the PUNJABI-PUSHTOON ITTEHAD (PPI) in Karachi, all very well armed and supported by their brothers from the north whose leadership comprised of thugs and drug barons. Yet, that is not visible to the wannabe liberals.

Please note, MQM is not going away no matter what people like yourself promote for the MQM voter will always vote MQM. And do us a favor, change the title to I HATE MQM.

you forgot the one when MQM boycotted the election. popular graffiti which still exists on some walls of Karachi

"vote do, maut lo" implying "if you vote, you deserve death"

I think MQM has been most media savvy. Does anyone remember the song

"saathi, mazloomon ka saathi Altaf hussain
jo zulm say dat kar larhta hai
jo kehta hai wo karta hai
har mushkil say hans hans kar takraanay wala hai
saathi,....."

then there was another one

"mighty,......Superman!!!!
Altaf Hussain!!!"

there was another on the tune of Indian film Maachis song "chappa chappa charkha chalay"

it was

"chappa chappa caravan chalay
jahan mere quaid k qadam para kartay thay
jahan us k karkunon k naray utha kartay thay..

and so on.


something along similar lines
http://www.chowk.com/articles/5947

Re: # 3, barristerakc,
"Humay Manzil Nahi Rehnuma Chahyay was a slogan in honor of Quaid-e-Tahreek, Altaf Husssain Bhai. "
THIS is the whole point! only if you had read the article ....

Humay Manzil Nahi Rehnuma Chahyay was a slogan in honor of Quaid-e-Tahreek, Altaf Husssain Bhai. It’s obvious that the manzil (destination) was very much decided which was / is to
I) Eliminate Feudalism
II) Give out Full Provincial Autonomy to All Provinces (check out MQM’s 18th Amendment)
III) Re-structure the unjust NFC Award Distribution based on population

Girti hui deewaron ko
Aik dhakka aur do

MQM is a separatist MAFIA!