Is TALIBANIZATION a New Phenomenon?

Re: # 348
This is an emergency situation, part of an overwhelming refugee crisis, where the relief effort has not caught with the increasing needs. Unless the situation improves soon, this failure could become the cause of loss to the Taliban.

But let's put this in context. Such scenes are repeated thousands of times every day in Shining India, where 6000 children a day die from hunger.

Watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr4_r2Omo2k&eurl
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

Re: # 338
You are nothing but a hateful bigot. Quoting lines out of context to draw your despicable conclusions is the cheapest and oldest trick known to man. Learn about Islam and glorious history of Muslims as written by thoughtful authors/historians like Karen Armstrong (A Catholic nun) William Dalrymple (a British Christian) or Abba Eban (an Israeli Jew).

You ought to be ashamed of yourself for your attacks on a peaceful and tolerant religion you know nothing about. People such as you wouldn't even survive to attack Islam today if Muslims were not such benevolent rulers of India.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

Re: # 347 Riaz the ill-informed

Read, "War and Secession: Pakistan, India, and the Creation of Bangladesh by Richard Sisson and Leo E. Rose"

It gives me no pleasure to report this, except to score a point with Riaz.

The Nawabzadah had claimed a few weeks ago that the 'refugees in Swat were well looked after', as part of his daily diatribe against hunger in India. Of course, he was just releasing hot air, without verifying the facts on the ground. Well, now the reality is coming out about the misery in the refugee camps - the largest exodus of people in Pakistan since Partition, and it isn't pretty. Every time there is a crisis in Pakistan, the rulers head out with begging bowls in hand (be it the Kashmir quake or Swat). This is old hat now:

Beneath the bed of 10-year-old Abdul Hadi lies vomit and urine. His father stands by helpless.

"He has had a high temperature for four days. No one has given him anything. They just say, take him to Peshawar," he says.

The father has covered the soiled brown plastic sheet on the boy's mattress with a bright red one from home. "We have nothing but how could I let him lie on this?" he asks, picking up a bloodstained sheet.

Abdul Wadood, a refugee from Swat, watches his grandfather lying with his stomach tube unused...
...As Ahmed walks the dark hallways, he apologizes for the garbage under the beds and shoved into the corners. He says the cleaning staff left early in the war. In the one operating theater, bloodied bandages stuff plastic garbage cans and an empty bottle is stuck beneath the two operating tables.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j8LmnSXaRFj3EOtBS OOyPItWKkZgD98L9PM80

"...There is no running water, no electricity, and food is scarce. There is no fuel left for generators and most medical facilities in the district are no longer functioning..."
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/06/01/Swat-refugees-f acing-dire-hardships/UPI-66531243858955/

Re: # 343

The facts are now out, if you bother to find them. Mujib was a RAW agent. He was despicable. He, along with Bhutto and Indira Gandhi, were the main culprits of the calamity that struck you in 1971. Pak and Indian generals were no more than trigger men for the gang of three.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

Re: # 344
I draw no pleasure from the suffering of my Bangladeshi brethren. In fact, I pity you, whatever your name is, for your personal servitude to Indian bigots.

It is you who needs an education. Check your facts before you make a complete fool of yourself.


Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

Re: # 340 Shankar

"...Guys self esteem is pretty damn low..."

Shankar, you are the resident Chowk Shrink. Can you please do a psycho-analysis on Riaz? Beyond his self-esteem, what else is wrong with the Nawabzadah?

RiazHaq #293
check some fact and figures before you write anything about Bangladesh,in some social indicators like infant mortality rate, literacy rate,percentage of female students in schools, we are better than Pakistan. Right now BD currency Taka is stronger than Pakistani Rupee.

Bnagladesh was born against the will of USA , Pak army killed our best intellectuals , professors, journalists, film makers and musicians to cripple the nation. we got a war devastated country with all infrastructure gone. considering all these facts, we have done better than our former rulers.

BTW, Bangladesh gets very little aid from donors now a days, whatever we got so far was spent to build the infrastructure, we don't use it to attack the neighbours, kill people and make refugees and suicide bombers.

SO DO NOT TAKE ANY PLEASURE THINKING THAT BANGLADESH IS WORSE THAN PAKISTAN. I am from post 71 generation and we are extremely grateful to my parents' generation who did the right thing at the right time.

After reading the comments by Pakistanis, its not difficult to understand why the country is in trouble now.hatred against the bengalis is so deep rooted that Pakistanis try to justify the genocide saying Mujib and bengalis were RAW agents.Finally India has to be blamed for taking care of the refugees. This is the result of being rules by some war criminals since 1971.

ENOUGH:

The board was about Talibanization but as usual it turns into an India-Pakistan match. Hey, both are pathetic!

Bhokay nein bhokay ki gaand maari donoon baihosh ho gaey.

Re: # 302

Riaz:

"...Re: # 294
Anil,
You are spewing out nonsense as usual by diverting attention from Modi's heinous crimes,..."

Please cool down, to have an intelligent discussion.

I do not discuss Modi. He is a criminal who needs to be dealt, simple.

I am pointing to your hypocrisy and shameless defense of perpetrators of genocide, which you are trying skirt by launching personal attacks on me, just as Masadi does.

First thing, you should stop splurging on early morning delights from Mumbai railroads, unless you want them in breakfast plate, especially when you can get even better ones served to you right onto your breakfast plate from your favorite city that houses world's largest slum.

Atleast you have descended from high ascendancy of calling me a "hindu bigot" to something to do with India shining or whatever. I thank you for it.

Let me say that yes, I am bullish about Today's India. Probably far more than you are bullish about your Today's Pakistan.

The depression that it generates in you is no reason to resort to absurdities of macro-micro nonsensical comparisons, or humiliation of butchers of Bengal as their punishment being the punishment fitting crimes they committed, or play with English words "may have become a Governor".

This makes you look like a joker, that I know you are not, very alike the people you are fighting. No different, please do not drive yourself nuts over it. Instead try to create reasons to be, and become as bullish about Today's Pakistan as I am about Today's India.

has anybody wondered why compared to Palestine, the support that Pakistan has got from the Muslim countries is pathetic.
OIC "resolutions" can be used as toilet paper. NONE of the other muslim countries have threatened India with any kind of sanctions or protests.

Its because Pakistan's historical behavior has been so pathetic, that it has absolutely no leg to stand on. I think the only people who have publicly supported Pakistan on Kashmir is Al-qeeda!

It frustrates guys like Riaz, who's sole mission is to scour the internet to highlight anti-India articles & anti-hindu. Then he points to the same articles & quotes a zillion times. Then he posts it as an i-log. I guess he feels if we hear it enough time, we'll buy his bs.

Then he has the balls to accuse others of being bigots, chauviniusts, confused & cynical.

Guys self esteem is pretty damn low.

Man ought to look at a mirror once in a while!:)

Riaz,

{{In the age of the Internet, you have a lot of choice of authentic news sources. But you have to make the effort to find out.}}

Yeah the ones that put India in a bad light & put Pakistan in a good light. I'm sure its a lot pof effort. Burns you guys that most news about Pak (in the West) is bad & vice versa for India.

Could some Islamic scholar explain this:

Examples of hate speech:

“Muslims are the vilest of animals…�

“Show mercy to one another, but be ruthless to Muslims�

“How perverse are Muslims!�

“Strike off the heads of Muslims, as well as their fingertips�

“Fight those Muslims who are near to you�

“Muslim mischief makers should be murdered or crucified�



Examples of peaceful, decent and divine speech:

Sura (8:55) - Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve

Sura (48:29) - Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves

Sura (9:30) - And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah... Allah (Himself) fights against them. How perverse are they!

Sura (8:12) - I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them

Sura (9:123) - O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness

Sura (5:33) - The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement

#324 Posted by madrassaAlumnus

I have one question for scholars of that great religion, Islam, here on Chowk. Why is it, given Islam's obvious natural superiority, and "chosen" status with "Allah", that they keep losing everywhere? I mean, take Indo-Pak cricket for example - the "martial" Paki "race" is whipped by the infidels with ease - why is that?

Is it because:

a) Pakis are not islamic enough?
b) Pakis will EVENTUALLY win - maybe after 1000 years?
c) Eventually the whole world will be cutloos, so it doesn't matter in the long run?

Maybe someone can enlighten me?

#335 Posted by RiazHaq

"India is the biggest beggar in the world, having received over 100 billion dollars in aid since the 1950s. "

C'mon, churn out Pakistan's figure also during the same period.