Salman Aneel May 20, 2009
#479 Posted by Pew_Research on June 8, 2009 10:27:29 am
Riaz:
Worry about this:
Health care in Pakistan crumbles under refugee burden
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news /pakistan/04-health-care-crumbles-under-refugee-burden-qs-01
Worry about this:
Health care in Pakistan crumbles under refugee burden
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news /pakistan/04-health-care-crumbles-under-refugee-burden-qs-01
#477 Posted by RiazHaq on June 8, 2009 8:53:25 am
Re: # 475
First, it is absolutely ridiculous to compare India or Pakistan with US or Mexico. In fact, by all indications and rankings, Mexico is far ahead of both India and Pakistan.
Second, just look at how different nations are making progress toward meeting the fairly modest Millennium Dev Goals (MDGs), based on HPI:
In spite of all the hype about Shining India, Here's how India ranks relative to the neighborhood:
China 31, Sri Lanks 38, Pakistan 45, Nepal 58, India 62, Bangladesh 67.
"Shining India" ranks alongside such "models of success" as Ghana, Ethiopia, Namibia, Lesotho, Mozambique, Rwanda, etc.
Source: http://motherchildnutrition.org/resources/pdf/mcn-how-are-we-doing.pdf
Let's face it: Human development is not a priority in South Asia, particularly in India and Bangladesh.
“A number of countries in south Asia decide to invest in the military and not to increase investment in their people.� said Daniel Toole, Unicef’s regional director “Budgetary allocations can be more than 10 per cent in the military, while education is only 2 per cent.�
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
First, it is absolutely ridiculous to compare India or Pakistan with US or Mexico. In fact, by all indications and rankings, Mexico is far ahead of both India and Pakistan.
Second, just look at how different nations are making progress toward meeting the fairly modest Millennium Dev Goals (MDGs), based on HPI:
In spite of all the hype about Shining India, Here's how India ranks relative to the neighborhood:
China 31, Sri Lanks 38, Pakistan 45, Nepal 58, India 62, Bangladesh 67.
"Shining India" ranks alongside such "models of success" as Ghana, Ethiopia, Namibia, Lesotho, Mozambique, Rwanda, etc.
Source: http://motherchildnutrition.org/resources/pdf/mcn-how-are-we-doing.pdf
Let's face it: Human development is not a priority in South Asia, particularly in India and Bangladesh.
“A number of countries in south Asia decide to invest in the military and not to increase investment in their people.� said Daniel Toole, Unicef’s regional director “Budgetary allocations can be more than 10 per cent in the military, while education is only 2 per cent.�
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
#476 Posted by RiazHaq on June 8, 2009 8:43:18 am
Re: # 473
You have just exposed your own deep-seated bigotry against your fellow Muslim citizens of India by making a blanket statement that "the majority of crimes were committed by muslims".
Beyond exposing your personal hatred, your statement also explains the following:
1. B Raman, a hawkish security analyst, was moved after the attacks on Muslims, and blamed on Muslims, to describe as the "inherent unfairness of the Indian criminal justice system".
2. While making up 11% of the population, Muslims account for 40% of India’s prison population.
3. Large numbers of Muslims in various parts of India continue to languish in jails on trumped-up terror charges, suffering brutal torture as well as routine insults to their religion by police officials. Meanwhile, Hindu terrorists, often in league with the police and the state machinery, are allowed to run riot, unleashing violence and bloodshed on a frightening scale, while the state, the police and the courts take no firm action against them.
4. The names of the politicians, businessmen, officials and policemen who colluded in the anti-Muslim pogrom in Gujarat in 2002 are widely known. Some of them were caught on video, in a sting carried out last year by the weekly magazine Tehelka, proudly recalling how they murdered and raped Muslims. But, as Amnesty International pointed out in a recent report, justice continues to evade most victims and survivors of the violence. Tens of thousands still languish in refugee camps, too afraid to return to their homes.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
You have just exposed your own deep-seated bigotry against your fellow Muslim citizens of India by making a blanket statement that "the majority of crimes were committed by muslims".
Beyond exposing your personal hatred, your statement also explains the following:
1. B Raman, a hawkish security analyst, was moved after the attacks on Muslims, and blamed on Muslims, to describe as the "inherent unfairness of the Indian criminal justice system".
2. While making up 11% of the population, Muslims account for 40% of India’s prison population.
3. Large numbers of Muslims in various parts of India continue to languish in jails on trumped-up terror charges, suffering brutal torture as well as routine insults to their religion by police officials. Meanwhile, Hindu terrorists, often in league with the police and the state machinery, are allowed to run riot, unleashing violence and bloodshed on a frightening scale, while the state, the police and the courts take no firm action against them.
4. The names of the politicians, businessmen, officials and policemen who colluded in the anti-Muslim pogrom in Gujarat in 2002 are widely known. Some of them were caught on video, in a sting carried out last year by the weekly magazine Tehelka, proudly recalling how they murdered and raped Muslims. But, as Amnesty International pointed out in a recent report, justice continues to evade most victims and survivors of the violence. Tens of thousands still languish in refugee camps, too afraid to return to their homes.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
#475 Posted by bubba on June 8, 2009 8:29:09 am
Re: # 474 Posted by RiazHaq on June 8, 2009 7:29:40 am
Riaz Haq sahib,
You claim that
{While Pakistan is somewhat better (not a lot better) than India, its record of taking care of its people is also not good and its policies need to be fixed.}
Can you quantify this notion as to how much better puristan is in relation to india? Would you say 5% better?!
This is where paki khopris can not get it. Smaller countries by their very nature of smallness and nimbleness should be "hugely" better than their bigger neighbors.
For example, seedhee khopri walley Mexicans could not claim that Mexico is better than the US.
Riaz Haq sahib,
You claim that
{While Pakistan is somewhat better (not a lot better) than India, its record of taking care of its people is also not good and its policies need to be fixed.}
Can you quantify this notion as to how much better puristan is in relation to india? Would you say 5% better?!
This is where paki khopris can not get it. Smaller countries by their very nature of smallness and nimbleness should be "hugely" better than their bigger neighbors.
For example, seedhee khopri walley Mexicans could not claim that Mexico is better than the US.
#474 Posted by RiazHaq on June 8, 2009 7:29:40 am
Re: # 471
Golwalkar's history is not only surviving, it is thriving in the Sangh Parivar that ruled India for a while and still rules many states such as Gujarat and Karntaka. You should check your facts.
The Golwalkar legacy is the biggest blot on India's weak and floundering secular democracy that allows criminals and thugs, 153 of them just got elected to Lok Sabha, to "grace" the halls of power. The Indian democracy allows regular pogroms against minorities (Gujarat ad Orissa recently), 2 million child deaths a year from hunger and malnutrition, one of the poorest sanitation systems in the world (even worse than Afghanistan and Bangladesh).
India is nation in great human misery, unable to cope with ongoing humanitarian disasters (even without a real"crisis" at the moment), it regularly shows up at the bottom of the rankings of nations for basic human progress.
Instead of defending such a terrible record, you should be trying to figure out how to improve it, for the sake of the vast majority of Indians suffering great deprivation.
While Pakistan is somewhat better (not a lot better) than India, its record of taking care of its people is also not good and its policies need to be fixed. To begin with, Pakistan should try and get India and the world to resolve issues of Kashmir, Afghanistan, etc. to spend much less on defense and more on its people in need.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
Golwalkar's history is not only surviving, it is thriving in the Sangh Parivar that ruled India for a while and still rules many states such as Gujarat and Karntaka. You should check your facts.
The Golwalkar legacy is the biggest blot on India's weak and floundering secular democracy that allows criminals and thugs, 153 of them just got elected to Lok Sabha, to "grace" the halls of power. The Indian democracy allows regular pogroms against minorities (Gujarat ad Orissa recently), 2 million child deaths a year from hunger and malnutrition, one of the poorest sanitation systems in the world (even worse than Afghanistan and Bangladesh).
India is nation in great human misery, unable to cope with ongoing humanitarian disasters (even without a real"crisis" at the moment), it regularly shows up at the bottom of the rankings of nations for basic human progress.
Instead of defending such a terrible record, you should be trying to figure out how to improve it, for the sake of the vast majority of Indians suffering great deprivation.
While Pakistan is somewhat better (not a lot better) than India, its record of taking care of its people is also not good and its policies need to be fixed. To begin with, Pakistan should try and get India and the world to resolve issues of Kashmir, Afghanistan, etc. to spend much less on defense and more on its people in need.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
#473 Posted by nemesis3 on June 8, 2009 5:57:54 am
#407 Posted by RiazHaq
"Overall, five million cases of crime, including murder, rape and drug offenses, were reported in India in 2007-08,"
Good job. Please refine your search. You will soon understand that the majority of crimes were committed by muslims.
"Overall, five million cases of crime, including murder, rape and drug offenses, were reported in India in 2007-08,"
Good job. Please refine your search. You will soon understand that the majority of crimes were committed by muslims.
#472 Posted by nemesis3 on June 8, 2009 5:34:13 am
#397 Posted by RiazHaq
This is your last straw. Now you don't even remember that pakistan was created after all the events mentioned in your third para was suffered by the united India.
Less you speak about the parliament, the better it is. You are not well versed with democracy.
This is your last straw. Now you don't even remember that pakistan was created after all the events mentioned in your third para was suffered by the united India.
Less you speak about the parliament, the better it is. You are not well versed with democracy.
#471 Posted by swapnavasavdutta on June 8, 2009 5:06:29 am
Riaz,
Golwalkar is history. Pakistanis know more about
Golwalkar and Manu Smruti and their utterances than
Indians do.
Golwalkar is history. Pakistanis know more about
Golwalkar and Manu Smruti and their utterances than
Indians do.
#470 Posted by nemesis3 on June 8, 2009 4:58:20 am
#374 Posted by RiazHaq
"Wishful, delusional thinking about Pakistan's end of days? Is this delusion induced by pangs of hunger and starvation?"
You deserve some rest
"Wishful, delusional thinking about Pakistan's end of days? Is this delusion induced by pangs of hunger and starvation?"
You deserve some rest
#469 Posted by nemesis3 on June 8, 2009 4:56:29 am
#373 Posted by RiazHaq
"Pakistanis eat grass? Beg your pardon?"
Looks like you have lost your senses. Now you will not remember who Zulfiqar ali bhutto is. You are finished.
"Pakistanis eat grass? Beg your pardon?"
Looks like you have lost your senses. Now you will not remember who Zulfiqar ali bhutto is. You are finished.
#468 Posted by nemesis3 on June 8, 2009 4:49:52 am
#372 Posted by RiazHaq
You are trying to fool yourself by deflecting discussions from the issue.
Pakistan is on the verge of collapse because it is not able to service its debts. For servicing its debts and further to feed its generals and influential ones, it takes further debts, knowing fully well that it is not in a condition to repay them. And then stupids like you stand up to equate your country with a great country like India who have never defaulted on repayments.
You are trying to fool yourself by deflecting discussions from the issue.
Pakistan is on the verge of collapse because it is not able to service its debts. For servicing its debts and further to feed its generals and influential ones, it takes further debts, knowing fully well that it is not in a condition to repay them. And then stupids like you stand up to equate your country with a great country like India who have never defaulted on repayments.
#467 Posted by Dash_Dot on June 8, 2009 4:45:43 am
Re: # 465 jang, you are an extremely mean person.
#466 Posted by jang on June 8, 2009 4:38:29 am
ooops..its pak alumni worldwide..my mistake. i thought its related to an aluminum industry like the alcoa.
sincere apologies.
sincere apologies.
#465 Posted by jang on June 8, 2009 4:37:16 am
dear riaj haq pak aluminum worldwide
you have really shown the hindoo the mirror..indeed a labor of sisyphus, nonetheless
you are being unfairly hounded here on the front page. you should come to he UP where the interactors are far less rabid and will be respectful of your scholarship.
to get there, click on the tab unplugged and then off the wall topics. hope to see you in more nurturing and constructive environment.
jang
you have really shown the hindoo the mirror..indeed a labor of sisyphus, nonetheless
you are being unfairly hounded here on the front page. you should come to he UP where the interactors are far less rabid and will be respectful of your scholarship.
to get there, click on the tab unplugged and then off the wall topics. hope to see you in more nurturing and constructive environment.
jang
#464 Posted by nkg on June 8, 2009 4:35:42 am
Re: # 453
gold...
Every country faces problems, but Pakistan is also "the biggest problem" or better to say "cause of migraine of civilised world"...So, Indians will prefer to have Pakistan somewhere else, preferably in the arab deserts...I hope, your beduin moon god,allah, help you to relocate to holy place, closer to Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Palestine, Turkey and that will solve 99% of India's problems...rest of it can be easily handled by people of this 3000 year old civilization....
gold...
Every country faces problems, but Pakistan is also "the biggest problem" or better to say "cause of migraine of civilised world"...So, Indians will prefer to have Pakistan somewhere else, preferably in the arab deserts...I hope, your beduin moon god,allah, help you to relocate to holy place, closer to Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Palestine, Turkey and that will solve 99% of India's problems...rest of it can be easily handled by people of this 3000 year old civilization....
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