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It's Yet Another Pakistani Nuclear Anniversary Today

Pervez Hoodbhoy May 29, 2009

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#444 Posted by KHYBER on June 4, 2009 8:28:50 am
GREAT NEWS.......
Sufi Mohammad, Ameer Izzat arrested: ISPR
ISLAMABAD ( June 04, 2009, 21:00 ) :DG ISPR Major General Ather Abbas has confirmed the arresting of TSNM chief Maulana Sufi Mohammad and his spokesman Maulana Ameer Izzat Khan, here on Thursday.AAJ TV
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/
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#443 Posted by KHYBER on June 4, 2009 7:39:21 am
Re: # 442..masadi is negative minded person and sounds like a street guy who sells,''PAKORAS'' outside a school,he does not have any positive thinking or skills of constructive criticism,he needs education.I feel sorry for his state of mind,he needs to see a psychologist.
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/
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#442 Posted by RiazHaq on June 4, 2009 7:32:55 am
Re: # 438
masadi,
Let's acknowledge that Obama is saying all the right things, and hope his words will soon translate into good deeds on the ground. He's only been in office just a few months, let's give him a little more time before we pronounce judgment on his performance.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
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#441 Posted by KHYBER on June 4, 2009 7:11:57 am
MASADI....GET A LIFE.
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/
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#440 Posted by masadi on June 4, 2009 7:05:27 am
#428 tahmed don't try to fool people here by trying to promote your unconditional support of colonization through dissing "mullahs"- religion can either be used by the elite to promote the status quo and there are examples a plent of that or it can challenge the status quo as in liberation theology in Latin America- the former use is regressive and oppressive while the latter is liberating. Sellouts like you invert this setup and term the promotion of slavery to the white man as the progressive use of religion while opposition to colonization and enslavement as regressive. The mullahs are small time thugs compared to the colonialists that you support and their goddamned "democracy" which means voting among predetermined candidates, the tweedle dees and dumbs. You don't fool anyone you moron, neither you nor the other thugs who mask their support of colonization through ranting against Mullahs much like the US justified its war on Afghanistan using the imagery of women in Afghanistan while conveniently forgetting what happens to them post invasion and forgetting what it is doing to its own women....

Get some morals, unfortunately you cannot buy them you miserable, sorry excuse for a human being....

TNITC masadi
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#439 Posted by masadi on June 4, 2009 6:55:49 am
Majumdar the right wing loon (with apologies) from India like MAJ just because he weakened the Muslims of India and rid India of a chunk of its Muslim population. Tahmed on the other hand is a first rate bigot and worshiper of the white man.

TNITC masadi
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#438 Posted by masadi on June 4, 2009 6:54:28 am
The Indian thug Khyber writes "President Obama is a brave president"

He is a very weak and manipualated president. On the one hand these elite make him go on a PR tour of the Muslim world and on the other they destabalize a Muslim nation of 170 million and ensure that the policy status quo remains intact. Obama is a spineless thug much like tahmed except that he fills the symbolic post of President of the US, which translates into peon of the corporations, while tahmed is just a peon in post and in reality....

TNITC masadi
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#437 Posted by RiazHaq on June 4, 2009 6:34:04 am
"America is not - and never will be - at war with Islam," declared Barak Hussein Obama in a speech billed as his administration's attempt to mend fences with the Muslim world.

In the last few days and weeks leading up to the speech in Cairo today, President Obama has spoken proudly of American Muslims, even talked about his heritage as the son of a Muslim man.

Obama's openness about his own Muslim heritage comes as a pleasant surprise to Muslims, especially after his presidential campaign last year went to great lengths to keep him away from Muslims, including an incident where a hijab-wearing American Muslim woman was denied a spot on the stage at an Obama rally, but the president showed long ago that he is comfortable talking about his roots, which are addressed in his two biographical books, "Dreams From My Father" and "The Audacity of Hope."

Now, Obama appears to be citing those roots to mend fences with the Islamic world, and persuade elements of Islamic society to rise up and join with the United States against al Qaeda.

He referred to his childhood in Indonesia in an interview with the BBC ahead of his trip. Adviser Denis McDonough did the same on Friday.

Speaking about America's strategy in Afghanistan and Pakistan, Obama said, "We also know that military power alone is not going to solve the problems in Afghanistan and Pakistan. That is why we plan to invest $1.5 billion each year over the next five years to partner with Pakistanis to build schools and hospitals, roads and businesses, and hundreds of millions to help those who have been displaced. And that is why we are providing more than $2.8 billion to help Afghans develop their economy and deliver services that people depend upon."

On Arab-Israeli conflict, Obama asserted, "For decades, there has been a stalemate: two peoples with legitimate aspirations, each with a painful history that makes compromise elusive. It is easy to point fingers - for Palestinians to point to the displacement brought by Israel's founding, and for Israelis to point to the constant hostility and attacks throughout its history from within its borders as well as beyond. But if we see this conflict only from one side or the other, then we will be blind to the truth: the only resolution is for the aspirations of both sides to be met through two states, where Israelis and Palestinians each live in peace and security."


He opened with greetings of gratitude and peace -- "Shukran" and “As-Salaam-Alaikum."

Please read the full-text of the Obama speech at http://www.riazhaq.com/2009/06/obama-speaks-to-muslim-world.html
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
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#436 Posted by KHYBER on June 4, 2009 5:57:16 am
whats about Obama speech in Egypt,President Obama is a brave president. I hope he will open a new chapter with the Islamic world and Arab nations in particular.The part of Obama's speech regarding the Palestinian issue is an important step under new beginnings.He was very generous in his comments about Islam's contributions to civilization. There also hasn't really been any other Western leader who has expressed such commitment to fighting negative stereotypes regarding Muslims.It's one of the most important speeches ever delivered, a key speech for changing the climate in the Middle East. Israel will make a big mistake if it ignores it and doesn't use it to generate a new dialogue with the Muslim world.
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#435 Posted by Pew_Research on June 4, 2009 4:56:09 am
Re: # 432 Tahmed

Jinnah also condemned the subcontinent's Muslim community to live in two, and then three states. A 500M+ muslim community would quite easily have been able to protect its rights against an 'intolerant majority'. He is no favorite of India's muslims.
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#434 Posted by Pew_Research on June 4, 2009 4:46:17 am
Re: # 424 The time may not be right for it. Don't forget that the oldest rivalry in Asia is that between China and Japan (nearly 1,000 years old). India and the Islamic world have nothing like it.
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#433 Posted by swapnavasavdutta on June 4, 2009 4:16:15 am
He He He, What is great power boss?
Indians? You mean Hindus or Hindus and Muslims and
others?
So Indians who were just coming out of colonialism
were considering themselves great power and Jinnah
did not like that and so he shattered that dream and in
the process of shattering that dream, millions got killed and displaced?

And Pakistani Muslims have turned out to be tolerant majority compared to Indian Hindus in past 60+ years?
Interesting...
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#432 Posted by tahmed32 on June 4, 2009 3:31:06 am
majumdar bhai: Indians hate Jinnah because he shattered their "Great Power" dreams. We Pakistanis love him because from he gave us independence from rule by an intolerant majority. I have nothing against India, although I think it would be a great power anyway if it had more individuals like you and fewer individuals who are no better than our mullahs - i.e. they can only bicker and berate others, and live in a win-lose world.
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#431 Posted by tahmed32 on June 4, 2009 3:26:35 am
Riaz Haq #424: "But my own thinking is that there is too much mistrust among Asians, and too many forces arrayed against Asian Union, most of all the United States and Europe."

Asian Union? With all due respect, which planet is this Asia in that you are talking about? And, for good measure, I see you have created a mythical "US opposition" to this mythical "Asia Union". Balley, balley.
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#430 Posted by majumdar on June 4, 2009 3:24:22 am
Tahmed sahib,

grooming a middle class that gave rise to the great Indian political leaders like Nehru.

Well, actually the one great political leader that the British system in India created was our beloved Qaid (pbuh). Sadly thanks to the mullahs that you lament led by Maulana Murdoodi (an import from India incidentally- no wonder Indians get your goat)his legacy and democracy got delayed in Pak by almost half a century.

Regards
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#429 Posted by majumdar on June 4, 2009 3:24:20 am
Tahmed sahib,

grooming a middle class that gave rise to the great Indian political leaders like Nehru.

Well, actually the one great political leader that the British system in India created was our beloved Qaid (pbuh). Sadly thanks to the mullahs that you lament led by Maulana Murdoodi (an import from India incidentally- no wonder Indians get your goat)his legacy and democracy got delayed in Pak by almost half a century.

Regards
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