Obama’s Courtship of the Muslim World

whatever Law do,it can't bring those two innocent girls and many others like them back to life.Thats all what I wanted to say.
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Re: # 175

nemesis3,

That is exactly your problem...you wish to assume for yourself a position upon a high horse that you clearly don't have to sit on...what course of law is taking action? So far how many such actions over the years have taken place?

Re: # 175....nemesis3 / goldfinger.... ur post( Contrast it with high civilian death rates while taking on the militants in swat region.)well Pakistani army is crushing those who challenged Govt writ,Pakistani army is not raping girls and killing them in swat.what do you call picking two kasmiri girls by indian army,raping them and killing?is it not ethnic cleansing, genocide?sounds to me it is...if i am wrong then what u call this brutality? you guys mentioned about what Naizi did in Bangladesh,I have moral courage to mention that it was as shemeful as what indian army did to those two girls in kashmir,read my post #171 again.
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Harish, Majumdar, both of you did not point out to Mr Ahmed that Shudra and Dalit are not the same, and the shadow of a Shudra was never seen as polluting. Given that caste is so important to him, you shouldn't have missed that.
Please also take this opportunity to teach him the Ramayana. Do you want to start with "there was once a king called Dashrath in Ayodhya" or before?

Re: # 130
Majumdar sahib,

1. You clearly identify India's poor governance as the cause of its human poverty and misery. But where does poor governance come from? Doesn't it come from its democratic institutions? the requirement for consensus-building among mostly corrupt politicians to pass significant programs to help the people?
It's not the dearth of ideas, but the details of successful implementation that often elude democracies in South Asia and Africa.
The one thing I am really encouraged by right now is Manmohan Singh's bold initiative to provide a significant stimulus for India's rural communities. But, I see a lot of very serious obstacles ahead during passage and implementation of this package in Delhi and final administration of the program in the villages.

2. For your information, the sub-Saharan African nations that India ranks with on its low probability of achieving the most Millennium Dev Goals (MDGs) are all democracies. These include Ethiopia, Ghana, Rwanda, Nigeria etc.

3. I am not opposed to democracy. In fact I am grateful for living in a democracy. But I am a realist. What's really important to me is the stage of readiness of a people for democracy to really work to their benefit. All successful democracies in the world today, including North America, Europe, East Asia etc., became truly democratic after achieving a certain basic level of human development.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

#172 Posted by Goldfinger

Your fusing or diffusing the bulb is not going to change the situation in India. We are a progressive country unlike yours and we continue to do that.

Only objection is to khyber's big words such as ethnic cleansing, genocide etc to describe random events.

Things are under control in Kashmir and law is taking its course. Contrast it with high civilian death rates while taking on the militants in swat region.

Re: # 173

fused bulb

#172 diffused bulb or fused bulb?

Re# 160: Khyber, well...well...all Indians are still very upset with Riaz sahib for saying that Shining-India is in fact merely a diffused bulb...where poverty, destitution, hatred and bigotry run rampant...and now this terrible indictment! Now watch how they converge on this like flies on honey.

Re: # 170...what Naizi did in Bnagladesh is as shameful as cruel acts of army who are killing innocent people,raping and killing innocent women,India has right to defend and take action against those who are involved in challeninging indian govt writ,I am not defending those who are using violence for their freedom in kashmir,i am pointing those who are raping and killing women.Read between the line in my previous post what I said.
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#169 Posted by KHYBER

You pakis are incorrigible. Do you know what is the aftermath of this incidence? The Home minister is in Kashmir. Important decisions of far reaching consequences are being taken. Enquiry has been ordered and law is taking its course.

By the way, ethnic cleansing is what your Niazi did in Bangladesh. Killing two people (although despicable) is not what your big words qualify for.

I thought those Kashmiris were citizens of secular India,so why this cruelty against two innocent women by Indian army?Fighting against terrorists and raping and killing two innocent women are two different issues.All this tells me that Indian army is involved in Ethnic Cleansing.
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#166 Posted by KHYBER

Very sad commentary indeed.

Credit should go to the media that exposed this. Thank for small mercies it was India. Else it would have gone unnoticed!!

#136 (TA32), #163(Dada) and #165 (me)

"Bura Jo Dekhan Main Chala, Bura Naa Milya Koye
Jo Munn Khoja Apnaa, To Mujhse Bura Naa Koye"

translated for the benefit of the chowkies:

"I searched for the crooked, met not a single one
When searched myself, "I" found the crooked one"

Kashmir, Indian minorities issues in Amnesty report
Impunity continued for past offences including enforced disappearances



Srinagar: The amnesty International has pointed its finger towards India for failing to respect human rights in Jammu and Kashmir. The amnesty International has criticized India for failing to curb violence against minorities and protecting the human rights of its citizens. The latest allegations have come after the International organization released its annual report in Geneva on Wednesday.

Reports reaching Press Bureau of India said that the use of excessive force against protesters in valley following Amarnath Land row has been listed in the report.

The report also claimed that "communal protests" in Jammu and Kashmir rose to levels "unseen" in recent years and erupted into violence on several occasions.

"Police used excessive force to deal with the violence and shot dead more than 60 people," it claimed.

Between June and August, central security forces shot and killed at least 40 people who defied curfew restrictions. The curfew had been imposed during demonstrations and counter-demonstrations over a proposal to transfer forest land to the Amarnath Shrine Board, the report said.

It said that impunity continued for past offences including enforced disappearances of thousands of people during the armed conflict in Kashmir since 1989.

India has come under sharp criticism for violence against minorities, security and human rights and issuance of death penalty sentences.

Tough crackdown on terror in the aftermath of the Mumbai attacks, activities of anti-naxal force Salwa Judum and anti-Christian riots have been listed by Amnesty international among others as alleged human rights issues facing the country.

In its annual report for 2009, the international human rights organization, has said, authorities responded to the November Mumbai attacks by tightening security legislation which includes "sweeping and broad definitions of acts of terrorism and of membership of terrorist organisations.

"The legislations extended the minimum and maximum detention periods for terrorism suspects before they are charged," the report said.

It said "more than 70 people were detained without charge for periods ranging from one week to two months in connection with blasts in several states throughout the year.

"Reports of torture and other ill-treatment of suspects led to protests from both Muslim and Hindu organisations," it claimed.

On the anti-Christian riots in Orissa, Amnesty alleged that police either failed to act or used excessive force resulting in the fatal shooting of 15 people when the minority community was protesting.

In at least two camps for the displaced in Orissa, the report claimed "Christians continued to be subjected to violent attacks by supporters of Hindu nationalist organizations; however, no judicial enquiries have been completed.

The report also mentions the attacks on north Indians in Maharashtra and alleged that the police were slow to stop the attacks and arrest suspected perpetrators.

The international human rights body said, in West Bengal, the government acquired land without "prior and informed" consent of the farmers leading to protests in which 30 people were injured.

In a veiled reference to the ruling CPI (M) in the state, it said, "Police failed to protect protestors when private militias reportedly allied with ruling political parties violently suppressed the protests.
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#163 Posted by majumdar

I even heard that a kashmiri girl was flogged for not agreeing to marry an Indian Army commander!