Martyred for Speaking Out Against the Taliban

Re: # 49

TehsinA

How can we give up what we have not? Pakistan was created as a result of the political (not an Islamic one) movement of Political Muslims of India who wanted to have a separate homeland for the Muslims (of the Muslim majority areas of India, of course). The sectarianized, divisive 'deene fassad', called Islam by the Mullah, was never an issue at all for the Muslims who struggled for Pakistan. It is this 'Zarraari' deene mullah which we must discard to save the Muslims and their homeland.

Your yahodi and saudi pitthoo land cruiser molvies and taliban has exposed now.
you can't cover them with your false propaganda.
If this is america war,than tell me how many American did taliban killed in Pakistan so far????

This is yahodi made conspiracy who has switched the suicide attacks from their region to Pakistan,Afghanistan and Iraq.

Your propaganda game is over.

Billion dollars of funding to Taliban is going to be Unveil

#52 Posted by seekers14

They may be loosing for now but in the end they will be victorious because they are true Muslims unlike the Amrikan pithoo army, the enlightened moderation crowd or the sarkari maulvis who in their hearts know where the truth lies. You can never be an effective fighter if you are not convinced in the veracity of your cause. So the choice is quite clear either you say, hey! I am for humanity and if this barbarism is Islam then I don’t want any part of it otherwise get ready to be mowed down because the other side does not take prisoners only slaves.

Re: # 51
taliban commanders are now fleeing with sh...ing in their own Capri shalwars.
sooner they would join their suicide attackers in hell.

#50 Posted by seekers14


No Sir! This is the Islam of Allah and Rasool Allah and imposed by talwar (kalashinikov) but cowards do not have the guts to accept it for what it is. They start shi…ing in their pants and in the end will be slaughtered like docile lambs.

No more exploitation! This is not Islam which are imposing on Kalashnikov by Taliban: coward suicide attacks,destroying schools,cutting throats,punishing women.......
This is their own made islam ,not ISLAM of Allah and Rasool Allah(SAWW).
I have never had accepted this taliban made fake islam,so their is no question about give up.
Yes! Pakistan want to get rid these savage taliban to save both Islam and Pakistan.

#48 Posted by seekers14

Question: Are you ready to give up Islam to save Pakistan?

Re: # 11
Naqshbandi! Your advice is need of time but can't be implement because of saudi sponsor of 12000 whabi madresa out of total 17000 madersa(of all sects madersa) in punjab only.
Taliban paid supporters are doing their job in all important postions.They keep them alive in society with all available tools.But table has turned after failure of "Nizamae Adal" agreement due to violated acts of taliban and expose of their "islamic saharia".
These paid people are now going out of picture,but some shameful persons like imran khan still sticking on his foolish idealogy.
These people are surrounding us in ulema,politices,media,govt.departments and amazingly in Law and order Forces too.
Journalist and ulma soo are worst of them who are doing brain washing of nation and keep justifying the suicide attacks and coward attacks of terrorism by taliban.
Nobody has notice that taliban and their religious allies is doing target killing and suicide attacks against Shia for last Two decades.Thousand of shias people and ulema has been martyr by this savage taliban.
Certianly all madersa of deobandi are grass roots of terrorism because they taught that every other Muslim sect is mushrik and must be killed.
Billions of dollars is spending on this big game of terrorism but time is come when Nation should awake and strongly protest and stop this conspiracy.
This is the Last chance!

Pakistan's corrupt pro-western social and fouji elite spare no occassion to insult and degrade the self-respect of the common citizen of Pakistan. Mufti Naeemi chose to die protecting this system that degrades and insults human being as a natural and only way of life.

THE NEWS: Updated at: 1615 PST, Saturday, June 20, 2009 ISLAMABAD: Mismanagement marred the walk-in interviews for the recruitment of school teachers organized by Federal Directorate of Education Islamabad.

The process of walk-in interview was adopted for the recruitment of school teachers this time as a result of which, thousands of women candidates reached at FG Girls Model School G-9 III.

The officials of federal directorate threw forms from upper storey on the candidates that created rumpus among the crowd. Ladies police carried out baton-charge to control the crowd as officials of directorate flee from the scene.

Women candidates blamed directorate officials for issuing forms after taking bribe. When contacted, DG Federal Directorate of Education told Geo News that local candidates came for interview should return to their homes and forms will be issue from interview centers within two to three days.

#45 Posted by malikrashid

The only reason I was avoiding a conversation on religion ‘about mazhab’, about how you achieve salvation here was to restrict the agenda here. A broad subject like this could be free wielded into anything and I wanted the focus to remain on political Islam which is what Pakistan is suffering from the most today. But, you are absolutely right a conversation on religion is absolutely essential if we wish to have an unfettered debate on Islam. Like I said, I am not avoiding that just postponing it to another board that is all.

This board is almost done so although I would have liked to move our discussion to your article on front page but maybe a more appropriate board for this conversation would be “Science and Enlightenment, East and West�. We could continue there if you like.

Re: # 44
"I am not calling for a religious state, just for an unfettered debate on Islam,"
A debate on Islam means a debate on religion or a debate on politics. Pl. refer to your interact#36 where you avoided a conversation on religion. You wrote:
"the discussion here is about political Islam. The organization of a Muslim polity, of how a Muslim state should function, its economy, its politics etc."

I am not calling for a religious state, just for an unfettered debate on Islam, so that once and for all we determine what is good, what is right, what should be followed and what needs to be discarded. This is essential to avoid cycles of orthodoxy and liberality. That’s all.

Re: # 42
Dear TehsinA
I think you are saying that there should be a religious state but it should not chop hands. The necessity of imposing religion arises for moral and legal functions, you said.
Legislation is something that is temporal and necessitated by circumstance. Wearing seat-belt is a law because many people ride cars. Religion could not change anything there.
Is it necessary to impose religion to build moral character? Is it blasphemy to encourage all sources of moral correctness? Like other religions and non-religious sources starting from education to psychiatric well-being.
Would religion could safely survive if it is dealt as an individual affair rather being administerd by the state?
Respect. Thanks.

#39 Posted by malikrashid

“Should there be a religious state?�

Isn’t that a debate worth having? It has profound consequences and the whole nation if not the whole Ummah needs to participate in it. Khilafat is a uniquely Muslim phenomenon and the basis of a Muslim state. For a state like Pakistan whose basis is Islam it is even weightier. Should Shariat be the law of the land, should the economy be based on banking which is ribaa or should their be graven images like what modern media is all about. Can harming somebody (like chopping of ones hand) no matter what their crime is called justice?The main purpose of justice is to help people be the best they can be. Justice is what a father wants for his children. No matter how bad his kids may be, his intent always remains to do whatever is best for them. These are all questions that need resolution once and for all.

The thing is that no art, science or sport can develop to its fullest if the best and brightest do not feel that they have legal and moral sanction for their pursuits. It is extremely important that they feel that what they are doing is good and righteous, in fact they should feel that they are doing God’s work because in its essence all work is prayer.

Naqsh,

Are you suggesting that your ullema do not support religious hatred and violence? What are their views on blasphemy, apostasy, and adultery? What about their views on Ahmadis and Mirza Sahib??

You used to insist that blasphemers should be executed, period. You cited works of esteemed islamic scholars (Qazi Ayad?) in support. Also, you have repeatedly made derogatory comments about Mirza Sahib and Ahmadis. Are you now trying to disown your past??

You and your ullema have supported religious hatred and violence … and are now getting burnt by the fire they started. Re-read #38 with a clear head.

ahle sunnat ulama never supported the taliban.
it was--and is--a purely deobandi-wahabi phenomenon.