Pervez Hoodbhoy June 15, 2009
#185 Posted by VRV on June 17, 2009 6:03:18 am
#183 Posted by RiazHaq on June 17, 2009 5:42:02 am
U r a BSer as well (Eg. There used to be riots in India where Muslims fought back)
That's ur opinion not a fact. U dont know the diff btw an opinion & fact?
As I said Gujarat is a basket case, so dont generalise exception as norm.
'As to the Indian criminal justice system, even India analyst B. Raman has acknowledged its inherent unfairness toward the Muslim minority.'
The justice system is not discriminatory but delivery system was in some cases/states.
As u'd know, if u r really educated, that individual, group biases exist all over the world not just in India.
'Muslims are routinely jailed on trumped up charges and languish in prisons, as documented by Yoginder Sikand who looked at many states including Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu, Andhra.
Why Muslims, even Hindus are jailed on trumped up charges and bumped off in fake encounters. It's not exclusive to Muslims (as victims). Blame India police for their inefficiency. I think u need to get ur head checked.
'While making up 11% of the population, Muslims account for 40% of India’s prison population.'
Ppl who languish in prison are the ppl who're CONVICTED by courts. If more Muslims are convicted then u shud undergo some introspection as to why Muslims take to crime. AFAIK, many gangsters in Bombay are Muslims. Why? it's easy money. U can blame society/country remotely but the fundamental blame lies with the individual and the family units, in this case Muslims.
'In spite of 11% population, Muslims hold only 5% of government jobs, as documented by Sacahar. RSS cronies have infiltrated deep into the government and other institutions. '
If mozzies dont study well and dont compete to get jobs, is it the fault of the country? RSS cronies infiltration is ur imagination but not a fact.
If u ever get data, find the details in undivided Punjab, Sindh. Muslims were, tho majority, employed less in govt jobs. There's no discrimination then. The fact is/was that Hindus did well (study & compete) to get jobs. Lets take Britain. Here most of the welfare queens are from Pakistan and Bangladesh. They're on the lowest rung of social, educational and employment strata.
WTF, there's no discrimination there.
'Even high-profile Muslims like Shabana Azmi can not choose to live wherever they like in Mumbai. There are no-go areas/neighborhoods in major cities where Muslims can not even rent, much less own. The real estate offer "no-Muslas" as a feature of some of the apartment buildings and neighborhoods.'
Same applies for Muslims who refuse to let houses to Hindus/Jains/Sikhs/Christians. What's new there. Every community practices that norm.
U r an obsessed, unemployed & waste fellow.
This is my last post to u.
U r a BSer as well (Eg. There used to be riots in India where Muslims fought back)
That's ur opinion not a fact. U dont know the diff btw an opinion & fact?
As I said Gujarat is a basket case, so dont generalise exception as norm.
'As to the Indian criminal justice system, even India analyst B. Raman has acknowledged its inherent unfairness toward the Muslim minority.'
The justice system is not discriminatory but delivery system was in some cases/states.
As u'd know, if u r really educated, that individual, group biases exist all over the world not just in India.
'Muslims are routinely jailed on trumped up charges and languish in prisons, as documented by Yoginder Sikand who looked at many states including Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu, Andhra.
Why Muslims, even Hindus are jailed on trumped up charges and bumped off in fake encounters. It's not exclusive to Muslims (as victims). Blame India police for their inefficiency. I think u need to get ur head checked.
'While making up 11% of the population, Muslims account for 40% of India’s prison population.'
Ppl who languish in prison are the ppl who're CONVICTED by courts. If more Muslims are convicted then u shud undergo some introspection as to why Muslims take to crime. AFAIK, many gangsters in Bombay are Muslims. Why? it's easy money. U can blame society/country remotely but the fundamental blame lies with the individual and the family units, in this case Muslims.
'In spite of 11% population, Muslims hold only 5% of government jobs, as documented by Sacahar. RSS cronies have infiltrated deep into the government and other institutions. '
If mozzies dont study well and dont compete to get jobs, is it the fault of the country? RSS cronies infiltration is ur imagination but not a fact.
If u ever get data, find the details in undivided Punjab, Sindh. Muslims were, tho majority, employed less in govt jobs. There's no discrimination then. The fact is/was that Hindus did well (study & compete) to get jobs. Lets take Britain. Here most of the welfare queens are from Pakistan and Bangladesh. They're on the lowest rung of social, educational and employment strata.
WTF, there's no discrimination there.
'Even high-profile Muslims like Shabana Azmi can not choose to live wherever they like in Mumbai. There are no-go areas/neighborhoods in major cities where Muslims can not even rent, much less own. The real estate offer "no-Muslas" as a feature of some of the apartment buildings and neighborhoods.'
Same applies for Muslims who refuse to let houses to Hindus/Jains/Sikhs/Christians. What's new there. Every community practices that norm.
U r an obsessed, unemployed & waste fellow.
This is my last post to u.
#184 Posted by laddu on June 17, 2009 6:01:32 am
Hindus have been turned into dhimis by Paki Jehadi Alumni.
Temple Destruction
Several Hindu temples have been destroyed in Pakistan. A notable incident was the destruction of the Ramna Kali Mandir in former East Pakistan. The temple was bulldozed by the Pakistan Army on March 27, 1971.The Dhakeshwari Temple was severely damaged during the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971, and over half of the temple's buildings were destroyed. In a major disrespect of the religion, the main worship hall was taken over by the Pakistan Army and used as an ammunitions storage area. Several of the temple custodians were tortured and killed by the Army though most, including the Head Priest, fled first to their ancestral villages and then to India and therefore escaped death.
In 2006, the last Hindu temple in Lahore was destroyed to pave the way for construction of a multi-storied commercial building. The temple was demolished after officials of the Evacuee Property Trust Board concealed facts from the board chairman about the nature of the building. When reporters from Pakistan-based newspaper Dawn tried to cover the incident, they were accosted by the henchmen of the property developer, who denied that a Hindu temple existed at the site.[70]
Several political parties in Pakistan have objected to this move, such as the Pakistan People's party and the Pakistani Muslim League-N.[71][72] The move has also evoked strong condemnation in India from minority bodies and political parties, including the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), the Congress Party, as well as Muslim advocacy political parties such as the All India Muslim Majlis-e-Mushawarat.[73] A firm of lawyers representing the Hindu minority has approached the Lahore High Court seeking a directive to the builders to stop the construction of the commercial plaza and reconstruct the temple at the site. The petitioners maintain that the demolition violates section 295 of the Pakistan Penal Code prohibiting the demolition of places of worship.[74]
Temple Destruction
Several Hindu temples have been destroyed in Pakistan. A notable incident was the destruction of the Ramna Kali Mandir in former East Pakistan. The temple was bulldozed by the Pakistan Army on March 27, 1971.The Dhakeshwari Temple was severely damaged during the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971, and over half of the temple's buildings were destroyed. In a major disrespect of the religion, the main worship hall was taken over by the Pakistan Army and used as an ammunitions storage area. Several of the temple custodians were tortured and killed by the Army though most, including the Head Priest, fled first to their ancestral villages and then to India and therefore escaped death.
In 2006, the last Hindu temple in Lahore was destroyed to pave the way for construction of a multi-storied commercial building. The temple was demolished after officials of the Evacuee Property Trust Board concealed facts from the board chairman about the nature of the building. When reporters from Pakistan-based newspaper Dawn tried to cover the incident, they were accosted by the henchmen of the property developer, who denied that a Hindu temple existed at the site.[70]
Several political parties in Pakistan have objected to this move, such as the Pakistan People's party and the Pakistani Muslim League-N.[71][72] The move has also evoked strong condemnation in India from minority bodies and political parties, including the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), the Congress Party, as well as Muslim advocacy political parties such as the All India Muslim Majlis-e-Mushawarat.[73] A firm of lawyers representing the Hindu minority has approached the Lahore High Court seeking a directive to the builders to stop the construction of the commercial plaza and reconstruct the temple at the site. The petitioners maintain that the demolition violates section 295 of the Pakistan Penal Code prohibiting the demolition of places of worship.[74]
#183 Posted by RiazHaq on June 17, 2009 5:42:02 am
Re: # 177
If you can not deal with the facts and the arguments, no amount of personal abuse can hide your failure.
There used to be riots in India where Muslims fought back, but that hasn't been the case for decades now. The RSS has perfected the art of killing innocent Muslims with the active connivance, even support of the state, as happened in Gujarat.
As to the Indian criminal justice system, even India analyst B. Raman has acknowledged its inherent unfairness toward the Muslim minority. Muslims are routinely jailed on trumped up charges and languish in prisons, as documented by Yoginder Sikand who looked at many states including Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu, Andhra. While making up 11% of the population, Muslims account for 40% of India’s prison population. Here's a quote from a recent article by Sikand:
"America's 'global war on terror' has provided a convenient cover to the Hindutva lobby and to fiercely anti-Muslim elements within the Indian state machinery to launch a concerted campaign of terror against Muslims. Large numbers of Muslims in various parts of India continue to languish in jails on trumped-up terror charges, suffering brutal torture as well as routine insults to their religion by police officials. Meanwhile, Hindu terrorists, often in league with the police and the state machinery, are allowed to run riot, unleashing violence and bloodshed on a frightening scale, while the state, the police and the courts take no firm action against them."
There is systematic housing and employment discrimination. In spite of 11% population, Muslims hold only 5% of government jobs, as documented by Sacahar. RSS cronies have infiltrated deep into the government and other institutions.
Even high-profile Muslims like Shabana Azmi can not choose to live wherever they like in Mumbai. There are no-go areas/neighborhoods in major cities where Muslims can not even rent, much less own. The real estate offer "no-Muslas" as a feature of some of the apartment buildings and neighborhoods.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
If you can not deal with the facts and the arguments, no amount of personal abuse can hide your failure.
There used to be riots in India where Muslims fought back, but that hasn't been the case for decades now. The RSS has perfected the art of killing innocent Muslims with the active connivance, even support of the state, as happened in Gujarat.
As to the Indian criminal justice system, even India analyst B. Raman has acknowledged its inherent unfairness toward the Muslim minority. Muslims are routinely jailed on trumped up charges and languish in prisons, as documented by Yoginder Sikand who looked at many states including Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu, Andhra. While making up 11% of the population, Muslims account for 40% of India’s prison population. Here's a quote from a recent article by Sikand:
"America's 'global war on terror' has provided a convenient cover to the Hindutva lobby and to fiercely anti-Muslim elements within the Indian state machinery to launch a concerted campaign of terror against Muslims. Large numbers of Muslims in various parts of India continue to languish in jails on trumped-up terror charges, suffering brutal torture as well as routine insults to their religion by police officials. Meanwhile, Hindu terrorists, often in league with the police and the state machinery, are allowed to run riot, unleashing violence and bloodshed on a frightening scale, while the state, the police and the courts take no firm action against them."
There is systematic housing and employment discrimination. In spite of 11% population, Muslims hold only 5% of government jobs, as documented by Sacahar. RSS cronies have infiltrated deep into the government and other institutions.
Even high-profile Muslims like Shabana Azmi can not choose to live wherever they like in Mumbai. There are no-go areas/neighborhoods in major cities where Muslims can not even rent, much less own. The real estate offer "no-Muslas" as a feature of some of the apartment buildings and neighborhoods.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
#182 Posted by laddu on June 17, 2009 5:39:09 am
How many Forced Conversions your mulah jamaat is going to indulge in before your supremacism is finally defeated??
Hindu women have also been known to be victims of kidnapping and forced conversion to Islam.[68] Krishan Bheel, a Hindu member of the National Assembly of Pakistan, came into the news recently for manhandling Qari Gul Rehman after being taunted with a religious insult.[69]
On October 18, 2005, Sanno Amra and Champa, a Hindu couple residing in the Punjab Colony, Karachi, Sindh returned home to find that their three teenage daughters had disappeared. After inquiries to the local police, the couple discovered that their daughters had been taken to a local madrassah, had been converted to Islam, and were denied unsupervised contact with their parents.
Hindu women have also been known to be victims of kidnapping and forced conversion to Islam.[68] Krishan Bheel, a Hindu member of the National Assembly of Pakistan, came into the news recently for manhandling Qari Gul Rehman after being taunted with a religious insult.[69]
On October 18, 2005, Sanno Amra and Champa, a Hindu couple residing in the Punjab Colony, Karachi, Sindh returned home to find that their three teenage daughters had disappeared. After inquiries to the local police, the couple discovered that their daughters had been taken to a local madrassah, had been converted to Islam, and were denied unsupervised contact with their parents.
#181 Posted by laddu on June 17, 2009 5:37:32 am
Paki Jehadi Alumni Worldwide ji,
How may more kafirs and mushrques you are going to kill through your jehad before your thirst for blood of kafirs would end??
How may more kafirs and mushrques you are going to kill through your jehad before your thirst for blood of kafirs would end??
#180 Posted by laddu on June 17, 2009 5:35:04 am
Riaz ul Haq
The increasing Islamisation of Pakistan and antagonism against a majority Hindu. Pakistan has forced many Hindus to leave Hinduism and convert to Islam[citation needed]. Such Islamisation include the blasphemy laws, which make it dangerous for religious minorities to express themselves freely and engage freely in religious and cultural activities. The promulgation of Sharia, Quranic law has also increased the marginalization of Hindus and other minorities. Following the destruction in 1992 of the Babri Mosque in India, riots and persecution of Hindus in retaliation has only increased; Hindus in Pakistan are routinely affected by communal incidents in India and violent developments on the Kashmir conflict between the two nations. It remains the hope of many that a permanent peace between the two nations will go a long way in making life better for the roughly 3 million Hindus living in Pakistan. The 1998 census recorded 2,443,614 Hindus in Pakistan. Reports from Pakistan indicate that Hindu minorities under Taliban rule in Swat are being forced to wear Red headgear such as turbans to make it easier for the Islamic militants to target them for discrimination. In light of these deprivations, Pakistani Hindu minorities have started fleeing to India.
The increasing Islamisation of Pakistan and antagonism against a majority Hindu. Pakistan has forced many Hindus to leave Hinduism and convert to Islam[citation needed]. Such Islamisation include the blasphemy laws, which make it dangerous for religious minorities to express themselves freely and engage freely in religious and cultural activities. The promulgation of Sharia, Quranic law has also increased the marginalization of Hindus and other minorities. Following the destruction in 1992 of the Babri Mosque in India, riots and persecution of Hindus in retaliation has only increased; Hindus in Pakistan are routinely affected by communal incidents in India and violent developments on the Kashmir conflict between the two nations. It remains the hope of many that a permanent peace between the two nations will go a long way in making life better for the roughly 3 million Hindus living in Pakistan. The 1998 census recorded 2,443,614 Hindus in Pakistan. Reports from Pakistan indicate that Hindu minorities under Taliban rule in Swat are being forced to wear Red headgear such as turbans to make it easier for the Islamic militants to target them for discrimination. In light of these deprivations, Pakistani Hindu minorities have started fleeing to India.
#179 Posted by laddu on June 17, 2009 5:33:51 am
Pakistani hindus are the worst of all the dhimmis. Remember the Hindu worker who was murdered for asking morewages? It its like oliver twist asking fort more!!
As per Islami nizam of Pukistan a dhimmi hindu cannott establisha temple without asking for permission from Paki ulemas. The communal violence of the 1940s and the subsequent persecutions have resulted in the destruction of thousands of Hindu temples in Pakistan, although the Hindu community and the Pakistani government have preserved and protected many prominent ones. The Hindu Gymkhana in Karachi has tried to promote social development for Hindus in the city. One of the few temples remaining in Karachi today is the Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, Karachi.
Hindus are allotted separate electorates to vote by, but their political importance is virtually nil[citation needed]. The Pakistan Hindu Panchayat and the Pakistani Hindu Welfare Association are the primary civic organizations that represent and organize Hindu communities on social, economic, religious and political issues.
As per Islami nizam of Pukistan a dhimmi hindu cannott establisha temple without asking for permission from Paki ulemas. The communal violence of the 1940s and the subsequent persecutions have resulted in the destruction of thousands of Hindu temples in Pakistan, although the Hindu community and the Pakistani government have preserved and protected many prominent ones. The Hindu Gymkhana in Karachi has tried to promote social development for Hindus in the city. One of the few temples remaining in Karachi today is the Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, Karachi.
Hindus are allotted separate electorates to vote by, but their political importance is virtually nil[citation needed]. The Pakistan Hindu Panchayat and the Pakistani Hindu Welfare Association are the primary civic organizations that represent and organize Hindu communities on social, economic, religious and political issues.
#178 Posted by VRV on June 17, 2009 5:18:10 am
I think u r not gainfully employed after ur whatever degree. U loser.
#177 Posted by VRV on June 17, 2009 5:11:33 am
175, Riaz, U r a bloody spammer. Any reply to u is a waste but
Do u think Muslims in India are cowards. Riots is a two-way thing & it has the history of AIML engineering hundreds of them to galvanise Indian Muslims. Pakistan is secured but the after-effects of Jinnah's politics are still continuing in India.
' RSS... it has literally destroyed almost the entire Indian Muslim community by systematic discrimination, constant threats of violence, killing and jailing, high levels of poverty and illiteracy, denial of housing and employment, etc. Indian Muslims live in a constant state of fear.'
How RSS can discriminate, jail, deny housing & employment
to Muslims? Gujarat is a basket case but law is catching up with the criminal there.
Discrimination is Pakistan is institutionalised in the name of Islam but there's nothing that formally discriminates Muslims or any other community in India.
Where did u get ur education?
Do u think Muslims in India are cowards. Riots is a two-way thing & it has the history of AIML engineering hundreds of them to galvanise Indian Muslims. Pakistan is secured but the after-effects of Jinnah's politics are still continuing in India.
' RSS... it has literally destroyed almost the entire Indian Muslim community by systematic discrimination, constant threats of violence, killing and jailing, high levels of poverty and illiteracy, denial of housing and employment, etc. Indian Muslims live in a constant state of fear.'
How RSS can discriminate, jail, deny housing & employment
to Muslims? Gujarat is a basket case but law is catching up with the criminal there.
Discrimination is Pakistan is institutionalised in the name of Islam but there's nothing that formally discriminates Muslims or any other community in India.
Where did u get ur education?
#176 Posted by Goldfinger on June 17, 2009 5:05:17 am
Re: # 173
major...though exact figures have to be sorted out...however there must be difference between a bunch of criminals backed by foreigners causing disruption amidst people, and people electing a bunch of racists to do their dirty bidding and commit wholesale pogrom and then enjoy high elected positions for years on end...and yes lots of Indian Muslims have continued to trickled into Pakistan...but then what would you know you are just a major in the army I suppose and your brains might be shaken a bit too hard by thumping your heels too hard on the ground saluting senior officers, yes sir no sir, three bags full sir.
major...though exact figures have to be sorted out...however there must be difference between a bunch of criminals backed by foreigners causing disruption amidst people, and people electing a bunch of racists to do their dirty bidding and commit wholesale pogrom and then enjoy high elected positions for years on end...and yes lots of Indian Muslims have continued to trickled into Pakistan...but then what would you know you are just a major in the army I suppose and your brains might be shaken a bit too hard by thumping your heels too hard on the ground saluting senior officers, yes sir no sir, three bags full sir.
#175 Posted by RiazHaq on June 17, 2009 4:59:41 am
Re: # 173
The Sangh Parivar has not just killed tens of thousands of Muslims in various organized riots in India, it has literally destroyed almost the entire Indian Muslim community by systematic discrimination, constant threats of violence, killing and jailing, high levels of poverty and illiteracy, denial of housing and employment, etc. Indian Muslims live in a constant state of fear.
Tens of thousands continue to languish in refugee camps after Gujarat riots, too afraid to return to their homes because the killers are still in charge of the state.
After looking at the horrible conditions of Indian-Muslims, Indian-American journalist Asra Nomani recently called Muslims India's new untouchables.
In addition to Asra and the Sachar Commission report, a number of Indian Hindu writers including Yoginder Sikand and Pankaj Mishra written about and documented the terrible plight of their fellow Muslim citizens of India.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
The Sangh Parivar has not just killed tens of thousands of Muslims in various organized riots in India, it has literally destroyed almost the entire Indian Muslim community by systematic discrimination, constant threats of violence, killing and jailing, high levels of poverty and illiteracy, denial of housing and employment, etc. Indian Muslims live in a constant state of fear.
Tens of thousands continue to languish in refugee camps after Gujarat riots, too afraid to return to their homes because the killers are still in charge of the state.
After looking at the horrible conditions of Indian-Muslims, Indian-American journalist Asra Nomani recently called Muslims India's new untouchables.
In addition to Asra and the Sachar Commission report, a number of Indian Hindu writers including Yoginder Sikand and Pankaj Mishra written about and documented the terrible plight of their fellow Muslim citizens of India.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
#174 Posted by major on June 17, 2009 4:48:36 am
Salim - rape of you grand-mom by bedouins happened a long time ago, get over it already...how long are you going hold a grudge against hindoos for not protecting your grandmom?...
also - America may be named after Vespucci- but there is no Vespucci Day, there is the Columbus Day... Everybody knows who discovered America, despite the name... Likewise, everybody knows who invented number system, despite the name...
Get over it...
also - America may be named after Vespucci- but there is no Vespucci Day, there is the Columbus Day... Everybody knows who discovered America, despite the name... Likewise, everybody knows who invented number system, despite the name...
Get over it...
#173 Posted by major on June 17, 2009 4:40:27 am
Re: # 172 GF
so what?... india still hasn't killed as many muslims as you have pakis have, I mean, not even close... hindoos have destroyed altogether one mosque - you pakis bomb mosques on a weekly basis... muslims in india may have issues, but not nearly as much as muslims in pakiland do...
Have you seen muslims lining up to move to pakiland or bdesh?... But we see muslims from bdesh sneaking into india in hordes...
You pakis have no leg to stand on as far as lives of muslims are concerned... save the outrage...
so what?... india still hasn't killed as many muslims as you have pakis have, I mean, not even close... hindoos have destroyed altogether one mosque - you pakis bomb mosques on a weekly basis... muslims in india may have issues, but not nearly as much as muslims in pakiland do...
Have you seen muslims lining up to move to pakiland or bdesh?... But we see muslims from bdesh sneaking into india in hordes...
You pakis have no leg to stand on as far as lives of muslims are concerned... save the outrage...
#172 Posted by Goldfinger on June 17, 2009 4:17:20 am
Re: # 170
harish...there is a general under current of hatred which leads to such pogroms...people who hate elect people who further their cause of hatred...this seething hatred is evident even from posts of sundry interacts on these boards towards their gigantic minority ...however since there is such a huge population of the Muslim minority in India it goes to their credit that a very few talented ones do manage to rise to the top...I have heard that during times when political tensions between the stupid ones of indo-Pak rise, people like Dilip Kumar etc are threatened with dire consequences...generally the Muslims, the former rulers of India, now rank even below the so-called lowest castes...and they say they live their lives in sort of fear and try to conform to a sort of politically correct behaviour...thus how many more talented must be going by the wayside? I'm reminded of the Thomas Gray:
"Full many a gem of purest ray serene
The dark unfathom'd caves of ocean bear:
Full many a flower is born to blush unseen,
And waste its sweetness on the desert air."
harish...there is a general under current of hatred which leads to such pogroms...people who hate elect people who further their cause of hatred...this seething hatred is evident even from posts of sundry interacts on these boards towards their gigantic minority ...however since there is such a huge population of the Muslim minority in India it goes to their credit that a very few talented ones do manage to rise to the top...I have heard that during times when political tensions between the stupid ones of indo-Pak rise, people like Dilip Kumar etc are threatened with dire consequences...generally the Muslims, the former rulers of India, now rank even below the so-called lowest castes...and they say they live their lives in sort of fear and try to conform to a sort of politically correct behaviour...thus how many more talented must be going by the wayside? I'm reminded of the Thomas Gray:
"Full many a gem of purest ray serene
The dark unfathom'd caves of ocean bear:
Full many a flower is born to blush unseen,
And waste its sweetness on the desert air."
#171 Posted by nkg on June 17, 2009 3:09:23 am
Re: # 169
BJ2...
I think Vengat had cleared this misconception...
Why everyone in a society have to know everything!!! Indian civilisation was the first, where people emphasied on spcialization of skills and caste system was product of that. If knowledge sharing was/is a problem, how come India excelled in many fields and kept the leadership for centuries...
Without a fair social system in place, it is almost impossible to build University like Nalanda.
Now the paradigm changed, and the infrastructure is not enough to cater the need of so many people in India....
I have read one writing from Rabindranath Tagore...Even people of his time, used to critisize him for not doing enough for the poor and commoners...
His answer was
"If Kalidasa would have concentrated on writing books on Alphabets keeping in mind about the peasants of Ujjain, the peasants might have learned something extra, but Sanskrit literature would have lost several gems..."
My question is
Do everyone need to learn mathematics?
Do everyone need to learn medicine?
I am from rural area and still connected with my hometown...
The people, who works in the field and now take land on lease and cultivate, are very happy with what they are...
BJ2...
I think Vengat had cleared this misconception...
Why everyone in a society have to know everything!!! Indian civilisation was the first, where people emphasied on spcialization of skills and caste system was product of that. If knowledge sharing was/is a problem, how come India excelled in many fields and kept the leadership for centuries...
Without a fair social system in place, it is almost impossible to build University like Nalanda.
Now the paradigm changed, and the infrastructure is not enough to cater the need of so many people in India....
I have read one writing from Rabindranath Tagore...Even people of his time, used to critisize him for not doing enough for the poor and commoners...
His answer was
"If Kalidasa would have concentrated on writing books on Alphabets keeping in mind about the peasants of Ujjain, the peasants might have learned something extra, but Sanskrit literature would have lost several gems..."
My question is
Do everyone need to learn mathematics?
Do everyone need to learn medicine?
I am from rural area and still connected with my hometown...
The people, who works in the field and now take land on lease and cultivate, are very happy with what they are...
#170 Posted by harish_hyd on June 17, 2009 2:22:26 am
Surely yaar GF, if you believe that large scale pogroms are the norm (as opposed to my belief that they are exceptions) in India, how do you explain the rise of so many great talented minorities in India? How do you explain the Abdul Kalams, AR Rahmans, Shahrukh Khans and Irfan Pathans? All of them rose to dizzying heights from extremely humble circumstances?
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