Hindu Mathematics – How Original Was It?

#151 Posted by Cobra on

Unfortunately, even in music and whatever it was those hindus who either became muslims like tansen and his descendants and many others, or who taught them music.

All I can say is, in the long run, if Pakistanis depend on Arabic ego/identity, they will get beaten very hard. Only in short term they can fool themselves, sooner or later people will simply accept facts without caring who is who.

Too many spelling mistakes to correct. :(

For pakis Indian classical music, architecture, civilization and the whole enchilada would not habe been possible without the "Muslim" influence. Muslim is a codeword for Arabs of course. And now these sly efforts to take credit for our Mathematical advancements… They would rather take pride in al-andalusians successes than of their own ancestors. That fact alone separates them from Persians.

I mean, how much more boot liker can you become! They just didn't embraces the new religion they also adopted the new identity. And now Arabs have hijacked Islam for pan Arabism and these fools are too blind to see that! They are just happy to provide cannon fodder to "the cause". Where else would you see a British-Pakistani youth killing himself and fellow Britons for the alleged sufferings of Palestinians; Or Riyazes of this forum taking it as a personal insult when you call names to Arabs?

What is Pakistan without it’s Arabic identity?

Re: # 136 Masadi Sahib with regards, I have great regards for you for not following same beaten path and not accepting american western as your masters mentally like Mr. T and Peon of west..
I have problems with eye sight and mental depression and I miss my daughters they have to move for their families. Have you heard Dislexcia.
I do not make fun of any body it is my nature . I always do what I can do and encourage good thoughts and deeds. I have NO appreciation for majority when they do not do good deeds saying that is too small and they they do any big for is too big for them. For me to believe is too act, I do every day small acts of kindness for is is my way.
Presently also in Ref#44 people are drawing wrong conclusions regarding waste disposal. If one is not living in large cities existing sewage treatment of nature is fine. It is foolish to coolect solid and liquid wastes and reat probems. It is like a very bad practice introduced by Europeans to drink bottled water most wasteful way and elites fighting for Saving nature in conferences are aming more problems. I have freat empathy for handicapped people even animals. Some times I find "strange" things and I say little different way than You or others its just way nothing more less. Yes I can agree people are different and they have ways just like sparrow moves in air different than eagle.
I have no knowledge as have never been to west but I imagine from what my students tell me. There is one thing to think and see things by eyes.
I do not want to make fun of anybody or people making "group attacks" on people , they are bogots and perverts, pervert is pervert even if he wears suit boot and has foreign residence.
As you feel I make fun of misery of people I will introspect my self that is bad thing . I will think carefully what you have suggested. If I made mistake is inadvertently only and sorry about tht.
Good day to everybody.

#148 Posted by nkg on
nkg,
Both Musharraf and Zardari are such examples. They use very simple logic for a result of billion dollars.
As you see here on chowk, almost everybody defending Pakistan or Islam is an amazing mathematician, they can use very simple mathematics to prove that either their grandfathers were not Hindu or they are better of as muslim, if they were.

Sometimes, it is difficult to see solution when it is so interwined with the problem and that is the case with both Islam and PAkistan. They are the complete solution for calculating all kind of infinite series.

Nobel prize committe will take a long time to understand these simple yet powerful proofs. You just wait!

Rest if you need more details check with Pervez Hoodbhoy, if he is busy we can check with Pervez Musharraf, he can give an almost free lecture (nominal cost) on almost anything.

pinku...
my question was simple...
Arabs/Muslims were masters in mathematics. Pakistan is under influence of arab/islam for more than 900 years. So, naturaly, Pakistan should have produced number of notable mathematicians;may not be like that of arabs, but at least few during this period...Madhav,Bhaskara II etc. were from Kerala and Karnataka and were not product of european education system. Their achievemnt is pure Indian one...I was looking for such example from Pakistan...

Though irrelevant in this context...
Please read the first comment...
http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/First-signs-of-thaw-in-India Pak-26-11-freeze/477269/

Though irrelevant in this context...
Please read the first comment...
http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/First-signs-of-thaw-in-India Pak-26-11-freeze/477269/

#84 by Goldfinger

...and don't tell me such things never ever happen in India.

Yep yaar GF, I can confidently say such things never happen in India. I mean no matter what the religion, if a man has talent and can put it to good use, he can make a name for himself.

If you know of any instance that proves otherwise, I am willing to stand corrected.

#141 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on
People always know that somebopdy is screwing somebody else, willingly or unwillingly, but all they want to know is "who screwed whom". Here the problem is that non arab muslims deny that fact violently (though they themselves are the proof of who got screwed).

#143 Posted by nkg on June
nkg, Panini was a hindu from pakistan, a shiva bhakht, but his later generation got screwed and you ended up with punjabi and sindhi muslims.

gf...
you are still skirting the issue...

Was Abdus Salam a methematician? No..If it is yes, please prove it...
Was his work influenced by arabic mathematics? No...
He carried out his work in nuclear physics, which has nothing arabic in it and a product of eauropean science...
You find someone like Ramanujan and Madhava in Pakistan and show me....

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The issue of whether the Hindoos invented the zero or the Arabic numerals, and other important advances in mathematics is irrelevant. The fact is that the Arabs chronicled these findings and thus gave their name to sifar (cipher) and the Arabic numerals. As heartbreaking as it may seem, the one who files the patent reaps the rewards.

Columbus "discovered" the "New" World, even though there were already human beings living all over those lands. Even Columbus got ripped off when Americus Vespucci wrote about the "new" continents, which were aptly named after him, giving us the Americas - both North and South. Thus, the United States of America honor Vespucci while poor Chris is left with DC - not many know that it stands for District of Columbia.

So like the "Indians" of the "New" World, the Indians of the old one got screwed. Arabs got zero and Hindoos got what Al-Khwarizmi's parrot left on the rock.

Re: # 128 coolAL, (and giani_240 sundry posts)

When you lose the argument you resort to hurling personal abuses?!

Re: # 137
ginani,
Instead of contradicting or challenging my posts with any useful data or arguments, you engage in personal attacks on me, question my honesty and intellect and then go on to lie about my record of interacts on Chowk. Under these circumstances, what do you hope to accomplish by continuing any dialog on Chowk or at Shalimar? It makes absolutely no sense to me.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

Re: # 134

Masadi, was it the local mullah or the gora sahib (now that would explain a lot) or fellow cab drivers in NYC that did a number on you.

Guess I should leave Hamid to deal with you