Agha Amin June 16, 2009
#42 Posted by nkg on June 18, 2009 7:56:08 pm
Re: # 34
gf...
oh really!!!! So, people of this 2000 year old civilisation invited looters, such that looters can destroy and pluder their property and take jewelery, their daughters, wives etc..to far away land.....
...and the sin marathas committed is very serious; they used to collect grains (not even money or jewelery and never touched women folk, whatever place they conquered)...
this is gem of info....
i will provide another story of a great moslem hero...
Muhammed of Ghajni was invited by priests of Shiva temple( Somnath) in Patan to get rid of all the gold and valuable gemstones and destroy the main stone, as the priests did not found anyone in nearby to do that job....
gf...
oh really!!!! So, people of this 2000 year old civilisation invited looters, such that looters can destroy and pluder their property and take jewelery, their daughters, wives etc..to far away land.....
...and the sin marathas committed is very serious; they used to collect grains (not even money or jewelery and never touched women folk, whatever place they conquered)...
this is gem of info....
i will provide another story of a great moslem hero...
Muhammed of Ghajni was invited by priests of Shiva temple( Somnath) in Patan to get rid of all the gold and valuable gemstones and destroy the main stone, as the priests did not found anyone in nearby to do that job....
#41 Posted by adamkhan on June 18, 2009 7:48:19 pm
urstruly
does your hate for the fauji opression also extend to that tooth fairy, aka Zia ul haq? or was he a mard a momin?
does your hate for the fauji opression also extend to that tooth fairy, aka Zia ul haq? or was he a mard a momin?
#40 Posted by swapnavasavdutta on June 18, 2009 7:45:12 pm
pavocavalry,
Why did not Ahmad Shah Abdali come to loot Delhi
after Battle of Panipat with Marathas?
Why did not Ahmad Shah Abdali come to loot Delhi
after Battle of Panipat with Marathas?
#39 Posted by adamkhan on June 18, 2009 7:41:43 pm
Agha Amin
you still didnt answer my question, how is this a punjabi pushtoon clash?
you still didnt answer my question, how is this a punjabi pushtoon clash?
#38 Posted by pavocavalry on June 18, 2009 7:37:17 pm
SHAH GARDI:--
1-17 JANUARY TO 22 FEBRUARY 1757:--
timur shah son of ahmad shah married to mughal emperor alamgir 2 daughter--100 wives of wazeer intizamuddaulah carried back by ahmad shah--all houses in delhi numbered and tax imposed on each
2-31 MARCH 1757 TO 10 APRIL 1757
durrani again sacked delhi--married 16 year daughter of emperor mohammad shah--handsome boys and pretty girls seized and taken to afghanistan--head of naqshbandi family has left a detailed account available in national archives india and at india office library london
3-14 TO 27 JANUARY 1760
delhi again looted and raped--mir dard has left a detailed account
4-29 FEBRUARY -23 MARCH 1760
delhi again looted by abdali.tahmas khan miskin has left a detailed account
5-29 JANUARY 1761 TO 22 MARCH 1761
delhi again subjected to loot and raoe by abdali
THIS IS NOT CRITICISM AT ALL.
THIS IS HOW BUSINESS WAS DONE THEN.
Agha Amin
1-17 JANUARY TO 22 FEBRUARY 1757:--
timur shah son of ahmad shah married to mughal emperor alamgir 2 daughter--100 wives of wazeer intizamuddaulah carried back by ahmad shah--all houses in delhi numbered and tax imposed on each
2-31 MARCH 1757 TO 10 APRIL 1757
durrani again sacked delhi--married 16 year daughter of emperor mohammad shah--handsome boys and pretty girls seized and taken to afghanistan--head of naqshbandi family has left a detailed account available in national archives india and at india office library london
3-14 TO 27 JANUARY 1760
delhi again looted and raped--mir dard has left a detailed account
4-29 FEBRUARY -23 MARCH 1760
delhi again looted by abdali.tahmas khan miskin has left a detailed account
5-29 JANUARY 1761 TO 22 MARCH 1761
delhi again subjected to loot and raoe by abdali
THIS IS NOT CRITICISM AT ALL.
THIS IS HOW BUSINESS WAS DONE THEN.
Agha Amin
#37 Posted by Urstruly on June 18, 2009 7:31:17 pm
It is no secret that fouj is that criminal organization in pakistan that gains its strength by stoking the fires of ethnic hatered in Pakistan. I will not go into the details of East India company's harami aulad like Ayub Khan or Yehya Khan but take for example, the terrorist organization like MQM. By the end of 90s this terrorit group was almost disbanded and heaving last breath when fouj took over and started feeding these snakes again. The issue of Balochistan and sindh ultranationalism always gains its strength during fouji regimes. Why these people stop complaining during civil governments?
Take another example, of Chief Jsutice restoration movement - it was only fouji quarter (including Agha Amin and the so called veteran foujis) who tried to turn it into a "Punjabi Chief justice" issue. The fact remains that it was Balochi and Sindhi lawyers who gave their life in the cause of this movement. Tens of lawyers in Sindh were burnt alive by the pet dogs (MQM) of fouji terrorists. Agah, you should be ashamed of yourself turning the struggle against this fouj oppressed system into an ethnic struggle. Can't you see below, evem the most rabid ethnic chauvinists are having trouble swallowing this fouji pill?
#36 Posted by adamkhan on June 18, 2009 7:13:39 pm
agha amin:
What I fail to understand is that how is the post 2001 stand of the Taliban, that is aided by wahabi fighters from across the globe, a Pushtoon Stand?
And you are absolutely right when you say that you are no expert on pushtoons. you didnt have to spell it out.
What I fail to understand is that how is the post 2001 stand of the Taliban, that is aided by wahabi fighters from across the globe, a Pushtoon Stand?
And you are absolutely right when you say that you are no expert on pushtoons. you didnt have to spell it out.
#35 Posted by pavocavalry on June 18, 2009 6:51:35 pm
note on ahmad shah abdali and durranis:--
1-while ghilzais were the real liberators of afghanistan the abdalis were collaborators of persians.
2-ahmad shah abdalis golden moment was when his master nadir shah afshar was assasinated and he bolted away with the persian treasure.
3-defeated by mughal emperor mohammad shah rangeela at sirhind in 1748.
4-looted delhi many times in between 1749 and 1761.mir and sauda have written numerable poems on his style of looting.defeated the marathas in 1761 not because they were a danger to muslims but because the marathas had begun expanding into punjab and he perceived them as a long term threat to afghanistan.
5-looted punjab many times.
6-confirmed many sikh chiefs on his line of communication from lahore to karnal as chiefs of states of jind ,patiala,kapurthala,farid kot etc so that they should not loot his loot rom delhi.
a great pashtun hero no doubt.
his lifes best biography is by ganda singh.
i have nowhere claimed that i am an expert on pashtuns .
the essence of this writeup is that pashtuns were used as cannon fodder starting from mahmud ghaznavi till 2001.
Agha Amin
1-while ghilzais were the real liberators of afghanistan the abdalis were collaborators of persians.
2-ahmad shah abdalis golden moment was when his master nadir shah afshar was assasinated and he bolted away with the persian treasure.
3-defeated by mughal emperor mohammad shah rangeela at sirhind in 1748.
4-looted delhi many times in between 1749 and 1761.mir and sauda have written numerable poems on his style of looting.defeated the marathas in 1761 not because they were a danger to muslims but because the marathas had begun expanding into punjab and he perceived them as a long term threat to afghanistan.
5-looted punjab many times.
6-confirmed many sikh chiefs on his line of communication from lahore to karnal as chiefs of states of jind ,patiala,kapurthala,farid kot etc so that they should not loot his loot rom delhi.
a great pashtun hero no doubt.
his lifes best biography is by ganda singh.
i have nowhere claimed that i am an expert on pashtuns .
the essence of this writeup is that pashtuns were used as cannon fodder starting from mahmud ghaznavi till 2001.
Agha Amin
#34 Posted by Goldfinger on June 18, 2009 6:35:02 pm
Re: # 19, 21
majumdar and sunil,
Ahmad Shah Abdali was one of Pashtun's greatest heroes...he conquered Delhi at the invitation of a beleaguered populace there...a populace who were getting fed up at the wickedness of the Marhatas...Abdali had a force of about 35,000 and decimated an opposition of the Marhatas numbering about 150,000 or more on the field of battle at Panipat...it was a rout...
majumdar and sunil,
Ahmad Shah Abdali was one of Pashtun's greatest heroes...he conquered Delhi at the invitation of a beleaguered populace there...a populace who were getting fed up at the wickedness of the Marhatas...Abdali had a force of about 35,000 and decimated an opposition of the Marhatas numbering about 150,000 or more on the field of battle at Panipat...it was a rout...
#33 Posted by KHYBER on June 18, 2009 3:06:01 pm
AGHA AMIN..WHAT DO U THINK ABOUT THIS ARTICLE PUBLISHED TODAY IN DAILY TIMES??????
'' “The danger of an Islamist takeover of Pakistan is real. But it does not come from the Taliban guerrillas now battling the Pakistan Army in the Swat borderlands. It comes from a proliferating network of heavily armed Islamist militias in the Punjab heartland and major cities, directed by Lashkar-e-Tayba, a close ally of Al Qaeda, which staged the terrorist attack last November in Mumbai�.
South Punjab stretches from Jhang to Bahawalpur, dotted with madrassas that private citizens from Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Kuwait fund generously, thinking they are spreading the message of Islam. Only in Dera Ghazi Khan, the origin of the dreaded clerics of Lal Masjid in Islamabad, there are 185 registered madrassas, of which 90 are Deobandi (with a total of 324 teachers), 84 are Barelvi (with a total of 212 teachers), six are Ahle Hadith (107 teachers) and five are Fiqh-e-Jafaria (10 teachers). Multan is the traditional base of madrassas, while Rahimyar Khan and Bahawalpur have seen their proliferation in recent years.''
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2009
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/
'' “The danger of an Islamist takeover of Pakistan is real. But it does not come from the Taliban guerrillas now battling the Pakistan Army in the Swat borderlands. It comes from a proliferating network of heavily armed Islamist militias in the Punjab heartland and major cities, directed by Lashkar-e-Tayba, a close ally of Al Qaeda, which staged the terrorist attack last November in Mumbai�.
South Punjab stretches from Jhang to Bahawalpur, dotted with madrassas that private citizens from Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Kuwait fund generously, thinking they are spreading the message of Islam. Only in Dera Ghazi Khan, the origin of the dreaded clerics of Lal Masjid in Islamabad, there are 185 registered madrassas, of which 90 are Deobandi (with a total of 324 teachers), 84 are Barelvi (with a total of 212 teachers), six are Ahle Hadith (107 teachers) and five are Fiqh-e-Jafaria (10 teachers). Multan is the traditional base of madrassas, while Rahimyar Khan and Bahawalpur have seen their proliferation in recent years.''
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2009
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/
#32 Posted by KHYBER on June 18, 2009 2:40:20 pm
Agha Amin ...did u train all these Taliban and their leaders?
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/
#31 Posted by KHYBER on June 18, 2009 2:17:57 pm
Re: # 30adamkhan...Thanks for ur views,AGHA AMIN sounds like HAMID GUL,IMRAN KHAN AND QAZI HUSSIAN.These people are living in denial and can't read the writing on the wall.
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/
#30 Posted by adamkhan on June 18, 2009 2:11:24 pm
Agha Amin:
"waziristan operation will fail" does not substantiate the heavy intellectual diarrhea that you spluttered in your article.
A common trait between all you dime a dozen non pushto speaking commentators on pushtoons, is that you guys treat the Pushtoons as indomitable alien race that is so easy to predict and analyze. This is an analysis that one could expect from people like Hameed Gul and all of those other ex army morons.
Pathetic to say the least.
If there was a Punjabi vs Pushtoon war in Pakistan then the victims of these suicide bombings would have been predominantly Punjabis and not Pushtoons. How difficult is that to understand?
"waziristan operation will fail" does not substantiate the heavy intellectual diarrhea that you spluttered in your article.
A common trait between all you dime a dozen non pushto speaking commentators on pushtoons, is that you guys treat the Pushtoons as indomitable alien race that is so easy to predict and analyze. This is an analysis that one could expect from people like Hameed Gul and all of those other ex army morons.
Pathetic to say the least.
If there was a Punjabi vs Pushtoon war in Pakistan then the victims of these suicide bombings would have been predominantly Punjabis and not Pushtoons. How difficult is that to understand?
#29 Posted by KHYBER on June 18, 2009 9:58:15 am
Re: # 28.... here is ur intro on chowk......
Agha Amin
Ex Editor ,author, ex military officer,consultant
Articles published in daily "NATION" , Online " PRAVDA" ,daily "NEWS" , "Defence Journal","Globe",Indian Strategic Review",Pakistan Army Journal,Citadel Magazineof Command and Staff College Quetta,Journal of Afghanistan Studies ,Friday Times,DAWN,Afghanistan Times,Outlook Afghanistan etc.
SO IF U WERE EX ARMY OFFICER,THEN U DON'T HAVE TRUST AND CONFIDENCE IN UR PRESENT COMRADES OF PAK-ARMY.
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/
Agha Amin
Ex Editor ,author, ex military officer,consultant
Articles published in daily "NATION" , Online " PRAVDA" ,daily "NEWS" , "Defence Journal","Globe",Indian Strategic Review",Pakistan Army Journal,Citadel Magazineof Command and Staff College Quetta,Journal of Afghanistan Studies ,Friday Times,DAWN,Afghanistan Times,Outlook Afghanistan etc.
SO IF U WERE EX ARMY OFFICER,THEN U DON'T HAVE TRUST AND CONFIDENCE IN UR PRESENT COMRADES OF PAK-ARMY.
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/
#28 Posted by pavocavalry on June 18, 2009 9:49:34 am
ha ha ha , i jokingly compared baitullah to khushal khan !
naturally how can a tribal fight gunships and artillery other than by guerrilla warfare.
this modern abdali is an indomitable warrior.
i am amused at these light weight intellectuals reacting to my interacts.
the bottom line is that waziristan operation will fail.
Agha Amin
naturally how can a tribal fight gunships and artillery other than by guerrilla warfare.
this modern abdali is an indomitable warrior.
i am amused at these light weight intellectuals reacting to my interacts.
the bottom line is that waziristan operation will fail.
Agha Amin
#27 Posted by KHYBER on June 18, 2009 8:22:36 am
Re: # 16..WELL SAID....writer of this article does not have any knowledge,hate to say that but its a fact.
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/
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