Waziristan Operation is a Faux Pas

Amin,I dont know what you are talkin about,you are totally wrong by saying,'' Baitullah Mahsud whether aided or not aided by USA or India or Russia is an indigenous product. He is unique because he is intellectually superior to all Pashtuns in the region'',Bait Mahsud is a criminal and he has pukhtuns blood on his hands,he DOES NOT represent pukhtuns on eiether side of PAK-AFGHAN border,he is just a WANTED CRIMINAL.
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Agha Amin....Khushal Khan and Ahmad Shah Abdali,were not hiding in rat holes and killed innocent people,they were not wearing religion mask and terrorizing innocent people,they were not bombing schools or hanging dead bodies to trees or poles,they did not behead innocent people.
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/

Army needs to crush these terrorists no matter where they are, they are destroying everything,so before they take over entire country,they must be crushed.
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Re # 17

pakahir wroora! khushala ossay.

Are we seeing the new policy of Iraq-trained General McChrystal in action in Pakistani tribal areas?

majumdar,once upon a time gold,diamonds,women were considered assets.and could be found in laege quantity with the ruler,it is no longer so, In fact good % of assets are intelectual and it is not possible to loot but for this reason mehsud may have been as abdali!

majumdar,

Don't be sarcastic. I am talking from pathan POV...

Bhatti sb,

Baitullah mehsood being compared with abdali

Fair point. Bait hasn't looted Punjab or Delhi-yet.

Regards

Baitullah mehsood being compared with abdali and khushal khan......

yeh din bhi dekhna thaa....

I thinking PAVO is having too much drug that is availabale in Kabul....

Re: # 15

Adam Khana rora pakhairuno!

Re: # 14

Agha Amin,

It is ridiculous that you are trying to compare a known criminal thug like the Mehsud character to some of Pashtun's greatest heroes, like Khushal Khan and Ahmad Shah Abdali...how can somebody who is out to destroy the very fabric of the Pashtun culture represent them? Adam Khan is right...he represents no Pashtuns...As for your observation: "the settled area pashtuns are closer to punjabis in education and culture"...not that there is anything wrong with Punjabis...but I would tend to totally disagree with this fallacy...in 1849 when the Brits came to the Frontier, HW Ballew, a surgeon with the Brit army wrote a very detailed account of the area which is now the region of the sp-called settled Pakhtuns...and his descriptions are every bit of a people who are as tribal and ferocious as any of the other tribes...probably the settled area pashtuns are now a bit more educated having availed a bit more of the opportunities on tap...otherwise except for the dialects they have the same language, tribes, customs, jealousies, sense of honor, pride and vengeful nature...and above all by no stretch of the imagination are mullahs representatives of pashtuns...these talibs are aliens comprising of sundry different nationalities, created first to fight Russians and now out to destroy the Pashtun culture.

Agha Amin:

So if the current Pakistani Taliban represent true Pushtoon sentiments then why did they have to kill more than a thousand tribal elders to gain power in FATA?

Why didnt pushtoon nationalists join hands with these guys instead of whining about the clash of Hujra and Jumaat? Have you heard of Afzal Khan lala?

What is your opinion regarding the raising of tribal lashkars against the Taliban? Are those mere punjabi stooges? or they are pushtoons driven by the obligation of badal?

If punjab is the main target then why are Pushtoons in Peshawar and DI Khan bearing the brunt of Baitullah's onslaught? Do you seriously believe that when these suicide bombers head towards Peshawar, they are actually aiming to kill Punjabis? How many Pushtoons have died in these "true pushtoon" initiated suicide bombings compared to Punjabis?

This might come as news to you but Baitullah mahsood is not fighting for Pashtoons, he is fighting for wahabism (take his word for it instead of guessing his motives), to him attock is not a border but a hurdle. He is not driven by pushtoonwali or he wouldnt be beheading jirgas and ordering the uzbeks and punjabis under his command to kill his own mehsuds...

Coming up with alternative explanations is cool, but unbridled abstraction can push one towards that uncool zone.

the tribal pashtuns have substance in resisting all foreign occupiers muslim sikh brit american punjabi etc

the settled area pshtuns are closer to punjabis in education and culture

if the talibans keep ideology as the centrepiece they will take over punjab also


Agha Amin

i have already discussed in great detail the pashtun and non pashtun division here in my ilogs and on my blogs.

the simple fact is that afghanistan in all probability will be divided in pashtun and non pashtun parts once the USA/NATO withdraws
Agha Amin

#9 Now a hate monger wants to teach love Pakistani majority...

Agha Sahib: You have started an interesting and timely topic and reading your writing I get the feeling that you admire defunct leftist rulers of Kabul. This may color your thinking.
I grew up in Lahore and I know that even fifty year back there were thousands of well established Pashtun families living there. I worked in Peshawar for couple of years and I had no problems. Let me say that there is no inherent conflict between two people. The real conflict lies in power and the benefits that flow from it. Punjab is easy going in its ways. If Punjab were a monolithic entity, it would claim first right to rule under any system democratic or otherwise. The fact is that some minorities have taken a big chunk of the benefits and they still want more.
For analytical purposes I distinguish between urban and rural Pashtuns. Urban Pashuns understand economics and state politics, while rural tribes are aggressive and set in their traditional ways but they are also subject to lure of money. The issue for Pakistan is to absorb these people in main society without losing stability.
Your suggestion that Pakistan allow border tribes to import duty free is undesirable because it is like saying make smuggling legal. If people want government services taxes have to be paid. I do recognize the need to develop industry and agriculture. In fact Pakistan should include Afghan needs in development planning.
What are your thoughts about Pashtun and non- Pashtun divisions in Afghanistan?