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Waziristan Operation is a Faux Pas

Agha Amin June 16, 2009

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#90 Posted by Pew_Research on June 19, 2009 9:11:52 am
Re: # 87 Pavo

"...one major reason of the militancy is musharrafs stopping use of tribal pashtuns in kashmir in between 2001 and 2008..."

You really think that it is as simple as that! Did Mushy have a choice? What with LeT/JuD linking up with Al Qaeda - could he really have continued on that path?

Earlier you wrote, 'What is the difference between Waziristan and what India is doing in Kashmir?'

Great question - the answer will be quite illuminating.
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#89 Posted by dude40000 on June 19, 2009 7:52:21 am
Re: # 88

Agha Amin,

I may not agree with many points in your article. But you are one of the few to talk about the risk of Pakistan breaking up (may still never happen though) as early as 2005. 2005 was when Musharraf sent army into FATA. That is certainly fore-sightedness on your part.
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#88 Posted by pavocavalry on June 19, 2009 7:17:51 am
the foundation of pakistans disintegration were laid by musharraf.below is an article that i wrote in 2005:---






Headlines / Pakistan is on the road to Balkanization


Pakistan is on the road to Balkanization
by A. H. Amin
(Monday, December 5, 2005)

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"Musharraf's policies and his petty opportunism are a grave danger for the region. It is possible that in the end his policies may prove to be seriously counterproductive for world peace."


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When war is expensive beyond acceptance a Trojan Horse is the best option. A Trojan Horse is economical, easier to manipulate and the strategic course less subject to the friction of war.

Lately, the USA has successfully applied this strategy in the Islamic world. The first Trojan Horse of note was Sadaat an ambitious man from a humble background who delivered the most fatal stab wound in the back of the Muslim world. This Trojan horse was delivered the coup de grace by a fearless Egyptian subaltern Islambouli. Another deadly Trojan Horse was the Shah of Iran.

The post 9/11 era is an era of Trojan Horses in the Muslim world. They rule in the name of sanity. In reality they are anesthetists employed to administer a strategic anesthesia to the core convictions of the Muslim masses. Usually men with little political clout, a minority ethnic status, avaricious, conceited, sons settled in the USA, and with little connection with Islam or the real aspirations of a Muslim.

Pakistan was created in 1947 and soon the Pakistani generals in league with British trained civil servants and feudal lords started a joint Jihad to destroy Pakistan's democracy which finally succeeded in 1958. Since 1958 Pakistani military junta has ruled the country and used the Kashmir Dispute as a reason for gobbling up Pakistan's 70 % budget. In the process Pakistani military miserably failed in 1965 war despite significant superiority over Indians in number and quality of equipment. The matter is discussed in great detail in my book The Pakistan Army till 1965 held at US Army Staff College and War College Libraries and also at Air War College Karachi Library. The Staff College Quetta had refused to accept it in their library.

All along Pakistani military junta used various pretexts to solicit Western military and financial aid, the ulterior motive being to consolidate its own position in the Pakistani power politics. First it used the Soviet threat to get US aid. Later it used Afghan war as an excuse for getting aid and now it is using the Islamist Threat as an excuse for getting aid. Even this earthquake is a golden opportunity for this avaricious and corrupt military junta.

When I was research aide with Ikram Sehgal in 2002 one day he told me to prepare draft of a presentation that he had been asked to deliver at the army's National Defence College. The highlight of the topic given to him by the National Defense College (NDC) was that "Ideology is no longer fashionable"!. At that time the NDC had a commandant who in his book had made the Mogul Emperor fight at Panipat after he had died in his book India - A Study in Profile!. Ironically, the same general was the architect of the Kargil blunder as the divisional commander of Northern Areas. Interestingly, before Kargil he was in DC as Defense Attaché!

Recently, General Musharraf has started another jugglery show claiming that he is the man of peace. A good move since Kashmir and USSR are no longer in vogue. Musharraf states that he wants friendship with India and Israel. We do not question his good intentions but taken in depth this signals Musharraf's acceptance that 1947 partition of India was a faux pas. If so many Muslims were killed in 1947, 1965 and 1971 then what was the use of the whole exercise in futility. If Israel is now being engaged by Pakistan's military junta - why it was not done earlier? Why this whole game? Seen in depth, Pakistan's military junta has an institutional interest in peace now. It wanted war when it suited its institutional interests and it wants peace when it suits Musharraf. Seen in this context, Pakistani military junta may be initiating a process similar to the one initiated by Gorbachev that led to disintegration of USSR.

Surely, if India is not a threat, why have such a large army? Why not undo the federal structure and let Balochistan and Sindh and NWFP be states as initially hinted in the Pakistan Resolution of 1940. Why should Pakistan Army be building cantonments in Balochistan?

What Musharraf is indirectly signaling is that partition was a blunder? That war is good when it is good for Pakistani military junta and bad when it does not suit the Pakistani military junta? This is an indirect attack on Pakistan's ideology. Who says that the last Mir Jafar was produced in 1757?

If Musharraf is to be believed then Three wars were fought for no reason. Afghanistan destroyed by pursuing an adventuresome and a genocidal foreign policy by all starting from Ayub, Zia down to Naseerullah Babar and even Musharraf as he stood before 9/11.

The West must not forget that Musharraf may prove to be a liability rather than an asset for the world in the long run. What must be understood is the fact that Musharraf's appeasement of the West will lead to a massive Islamist backlash. Musharraf is far more fragile now than anyone can imagine. Cheap adventure-ism as well as cheap appeasement is equally dangerous. The Pakistan Army was a laughing-stock when they bogged down at Khem Karan. Now Musharraf has proved that all was a grand strategic fraud. If peace with India was good why did not the Pakistani generals did it earlier. Why, so that they could gobble 70 to 80 % of Pakistan's budget every year since 1958? These are serious questions, which no Pakistani politician is asking. Why at least 50,000 Baloch killed since 1947? Why this aimless genocide? Why were 1 million Afghans killed from 1978 till to date just because the military usurper Zia wanted US money and Stingers to sell in the black market? Why is everyone silent?

Musharraf's short-term theatrics need to be reviewed seriously. If all that he states is right then Pakistan will have to re-think its ideology. If Pakistan leaves its ideology then it is a state comprising nationalities, a multi-ethnic state. The Pakistani military junta must not forget that since 1958 Pakistan was an army with a state rather than a state with an army. If now Pakistani military junta makes grand claims of peace in order to please USA, Pakistan is on the road to Balkanization.

What Musharraf has initiated is a dangerous game. Paying in the short run - but - self-destructive for the Pakistani military junta in the long run. Possibly good for the region if a self-serving military machine is reduced to size. Possibly dangerous for the region if a backlash starts and Islamic extremism is the main beneficiary. Musharaff's policies need to be questioned not only by the Pakistani people but also by the whole world.

In the Pakistani context following may be the implications:

Pakistan's smaller provinces may question the rationale for Pakistan. If India is not a threat and Afghanistan is a friend why not have an independent Baloch, Pashtun or Sindhi state. Why have a large army which has been involved in a dangerous foreign policy and in aggression against Pakistan's neighbors. The Durand Line may have significance for the Pakistani junta but for the Baloch and Pashtun it is a Berlin Wall, which will become meaningless one day.
Why should Pakistan have a nuclear program and a large standing army. Why should not the US insist that Pakistan reduce its army and dismantle its nuclear warheads.
Conversely if the Pakistan Army is reduced - why should the smaller provinces stay with the Pakistani Federal State. It is only the coercive force of the army that has kept the Pakistani confederation together.
Why should not Pakistan's neighbors demand a redrawing of boundaries.
Musharraf's policies and his petty opportunism are a grave danger for the region. It is possible that in the end his policies may prove to be seriously counter-productive for world peace. The Pakistani military junta needs to stop playing games, which it has been playing since 1954 when it entered Pakistani politics as a subversive force and since 1982 when it entered regional politics as a subversive adventurous force. The USA must understand that they are not dealing with rational good-natured men but with crafty opportunists who may prove to be a serious strategic liability.

Who has given the Pakistani military junta to decide what is good and what is bad for Pakistan, if their claims are to be believed as now Musharraf states Pakistan was a faux pas?

Now in order to divert the mass' attention Musharraf has come up with a new diversionary scheme that he would build reservoirs. What he wants is to woo the Punjabis, emotional people that they are, but more fatally pitch Punjab against Sindh, NWFP and Balochistan. As an ex army officer, I am surprised where are the fabled corps commanders? Where is the ideology of Pakistan? Who has given a general dismissed by this country's elected Prime Minister the right to do whatever he pleases to do? Musharraf's strategic decisions are taken as if Pakistan is a Paan to be chewed. Sometimes a sweet one and sometimes a sour one. May Allah help Pakistan. Ranjit Singh imported Tejh Singh from Meerut with the hope that a non-Jat army chief would be a blessing. Tejh Singh destroyed the Khalsa at Mudki and Feroz shah in 1845. British historian Malleson recognized that had Tejh Singh not been treacherous the Sikhs would have been won. Alas! it is the tragedy of the Indus Valley that it never trusted its sons.

Some day Kargil and the post 9/11 Pakistani policy may be examined and more Tejh Singhs discovered.

Americans don't trust Trojan Horses for they are really exciting the desire to atone and vindicate the lost honor in the whole Muslim World.

Or is it possible that Musharraf is USA's Trojan Horse to deal with the "Final Solution" of the Pakistani WMDs. This is a matter which historians will decide.


Source:



by courtesy & © 2005 A. H. Amin


Agha Amin
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#87 Posted by pavocavalry on June 19, 2009 7:11:30 am
one major reason of the militancy is musharrafs stopping use of tribal pashtuns in kashmir in between 2001 and 2008.

this is a strange breed created in the afghan war and the aftermath afghan civil war .it has to fight and kill.

the same guys created major trouble after 2003 when musharraf launched the army in FATA without provocation.
Agha Amin
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#86 Posted by swapnavasavdutta on June 19, 2009 7:00:32 am
#84 and it is good for India too as long Pakistani
army keeps fighting/occupied with somebody else,
less time and resources for them to meddle east of
the border including Kashmir.
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#85 Posted by pavocavalry on June 19, 2009 6:48:58 am
on afghan side there is no anvil to stop baitullah ....so what will the pakistani hammer do ?

if americans were serious about all this they would have fenced and mined the afghan side long ago.
Agha Amin
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#84 Posted by pavocavalry on June 19, 2009 6:35:30 am
what i meant was that if pakistan army had to fight against the tribals then whats the difference from any other army fighting freedom fighters.

i maintain that this operation is to please the americans while the americans want to destabilise pakistan.

US strategy is simple --if a pakistani soldier dies or a tribal insurgent dies both are good for USA.

i maintain that kashmir insurgency was as foreign supported as waziristan.india being a sovereign country had a strategy.pakistan being a third rate stooge has none.
Agha Amin
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#83 Posted by pavocavalry on June 19, 2009 6:32:15 am
now that the army has moved in waziristan all that baitullah must have done is move a few miles into paktika.

this is what wazirs and mahsuds have done against mughals ,sikhs ,british.army cannot sustain for long in waziristan. fencing is a political issue hence difficult.loser is pakistan or what people call pakistan...in reality about 10,000 families.
Agha Amin
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#82 Posted by majumdar on June 19, 2009 6:26:29 am
Amin sahib,

i dont think that bombing or killing is the answer. if yes then what is the difference from indian army in kashmir

Well sir, if someone thinks that bombing or killing is the answer then obviously he is very different from the Indian Army You shud know that of course. When has Indian Army used tanks and heli gunships on its own citizens? Has it falttened towns in J&K like Mingora? Do millions of Kashmiri Muslims live as IDPs like Swat/Bajaur Muslims do?

Regards
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#81 Posted by pavocavalry on June 19, 2009 6:23:56 am
the solution is not to send the army every where. as an ex soldier i know this is not the solution.swat is ok but leave the FATA alone . this is not the answer to baitullah.evidence has proved that the terror outfit is far beyond waziristan.the tribals , i mean waziristan as other agencies were not like this before 1947 have long experience in this sort of warfare.conventional war fare is not the answer.if baitullah has foreign backers they can find other baitullahs,rather they are having alternative baitullahs.this bragging is not the answer.swat was never the citadel ,it was an outpost.waziristan is the citadel.best leave it alone.what baitullah has done punjab is retaliation of what was from 200done to waziristan from 2003 till to date.
Agha Amin
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#80 Posted by KHYBER on June 19, 2009 6:16:09 am
Re: # 78 Agha Amin..OK then what is the solution???when ANP made deal with em in swat they started talkin about thier way of life etc,so how can you talk to these ignorant people?
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/
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#79 Posted by pavocavalry on June 19, 2009 6:15:41 am
waziristan is one part of a big plan . if baitullah has big patrons then what they have planned is far bigger.waziristan is a chapter but strategy is a book .therein lies the danger . everything is moving in a direction.unfortunately those who hold the top political and military positions may not understand the whole picture.

let those who enjoy the perks and privilieges pay the price unless they flee abroad.
Agha Amin
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#78 Posted by pavocavalry on June 19, 2009 6:10:57 am
the situation is far more dangerous than most understand.lets not under estimate the tribal wazirs and mahsuds.i dont think that bombing or killing is the answer.if yes then what is the difference from indian army in kashmir in red army in afghanistan.the situation is very simple.baitullah has already withdrawn major forces in paktika afghanistan.even if one baitullah is killed there are many who can take over.this operation is not the solution.
Agha Amin
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#77 Posted by dude40000 on June 19, 2009 5:02:09 am
Re: # 76

here's the relevant extract from the story that I was referring to. Purri khichdi ban gayi hai ki kaun apna Taliban hai aur kaun behda (Punjabi for bad).

Hafiz Gul Bahadur, a Taliban commander in North Waziristan and considered one of the ‘good’ guys because he is ostensibly not set on attacking Pakistani interests, appeared to have laid a trap for the defenceless cadets after being asked to guarantee their safe passage. While the full details of the kidnapping have yet to emerge, it seems that Gul Bahadur may have planned to escort the cadets out of North Waziristan and then have them captured and taken to South Waziristan and handed over to Baitullah Mehsud, the ‘bad’ Taliban leader against whom a military operation may be in imminent.

Similarly, Maulvi Nazir, another Taliban leader hailing from South Waziristan Agency and also believed to be one of the ‘good’ guys because he helped the state take on Uzbek militants linked to Al Qaeda, has reportedly provided men to Baitullah to send to Swat to fight the state there. The unholy alliance between Baitullah Mehsud, Hafiz Gul Bahadur and Maulvi Nazir makes nonsense of the theory that it is possible to separate the ‘good’ from the ‘bad’ and take on just the bad Taliban.

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#76 Posted by dude40000 on June 19, 2009 4:59:36 am
Re: # 75

Majumdarji,

here's the Dawn link for the cadet kidnapping story:

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pak istan/provinces/16-waziristan-simmers-hs-01
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#75 Posted by dude40000 on June 19, 2009 4:57:28 am
Re: # 74

Before the Swat operation TalliAghani were openly funding TalliPakies (with the consent of elements within Pak Army). After Swat, they are being funded by TalliAfghanis in a clandestine manner (with some support of rogue elements within ISI/PA).

One has to realise that both Af and Pak Taliban are not monolithic entities. The best example was when 400 cadets were kidnapped in Waziristan (right after the Swat operation was kicked off) even though the AfghanTalli commander had given assurance to the Pak Army that they will be given a safe passage. But they instead handed over these cadets to Baitullah Mehsood (Pak Taliban).
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