Agha Amin June 16, 2009
#74 Posted by majumdar on June 19, 2009 4:43:21 am
Dude, thanks for the correction. But your equation suggests that TaliPakis are being funded by Tali Afganies who are in turn in being funded by Pak Army. So why is Pak Army fighting its own sub-subsidiary in W'stan unless of course the whole thing is a charade?
Regards
Regards
#73 Posted by dude40000 on June 19, 2009 4:06:56 am
Re: # 72
Majumdarji,
Mr Rikhiye's analysis does NOT say there are 100,000 TalliPakies. Instead that's the number of TalliPakies + TalliAfghanies + LeT/LeJ etc...
TalliAfghanies + LeT + LeJ are funded by the Pak Army/ISI.
TalliPakies are probably funded by TalliAfghanies and elements within Afghan Army (diverting US arms for instance), I think.
Majumdarji,
Mr Rikhiye's analysis does NOT say there are 100,000 TalliPakies. Instead that's the number of TalliPakies + TalliAfghanies + LeT/LeJ etc...
TalliAfghanies + LeT + LeJ are funded by the Pak Army/ISI.
TalliPakies are probably funded by TalliAfghanies and elements within Afghan Army (diverting US arms for instance), I think.
#72 Posted by majumdar on June 19, 2009 4:01:30 am
Amin sahib,
If Mr Rikhye's analysis that the TaliPakis have more than 100,000 soldiers in their fold, then we must move to the next crucial question: Who is funding and arming all these men? The answer to that question is crucial as to whether Pak Army will win or not.
Regards
If Mr Rikhye's analysis that the TaliPakis have more than 100,000 soldiers in their fold, then we must move to the next crucial question: Who is funding and arming all these men? The answer to that question is crucial as to whether Pak Army will win or not.
Regards
#71 Posted by KHYBER on June 19, 2009 3:53:05 am
Re: # 70 tahmed, I agree,you made a good point regarding saudi and other arab countries helping and financing those madressas where they preach hate instead of true Islam. neither Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz nor the rulers of any Arab or Muslim state are holding special national telethons to help raise funds for some 400,000 new Pakistani refugees. Many fled their homes after the Taliban took over the Swat valley, and others were forced to leave amid the fierce fighting between the Taliban and the Pakistani military. what about Saudi aid to the suffering Pakistanis? On April 23, the Saudi King gave Pakistan 150 tons of dates, as "humanitarian aid."
Is this an appropriate response from the "custodian" of the two holiest mosques, the second-largest Muslim country in the world and one that is 70% Sunni? Saudi Arabia today remains the location where more money is going to terrorism, to Sunni terror groups and to the Taliban than any other place in the world.
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/
Is this an appropriate response from the "custodian" of the two holiest mosques, the second-largest Muslim country in the world and one that is 70% Sunni? Saudi Arabia today remains the location where more money is going to terrorism, to Sunni terror groups and to the Taliban than any other place in the world.
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/
#70 Posted by tahmed32 on June 19, 2009 3:30:09 am
Khyber: True. The damage done to so many Pakistanis by talibans and their supporters is unforgivable - tens of thousands of people killed in the cities, hundreds of girls' schools (often built with funding provided by ordinary people and through the efforts of dedicated volunteers) destroyed, prisoners brutally murdered.
The only bright spot is, as they say, "That which does not destroy me, makes me stronger". Thus, there seems no doubt that Pakistan will emerge stronger and more united than ever before after it has put an end to the taliban.
The one thing most Pakistanis still dont recognize I think is that the taliban are as much a creation of our generals as they are of rogues from saudi arabia, egypt, central asia. The media downplays this aspect of these "fellow muslims" - although it would be an added benefit for Pakistan if people recognize that "fellow muslims" are not necessarily friends of Pakistan either. And they would thus recognize that the "muslim world" is more complex than sacred lands inhabited by "pious arby-speaking muslims" that they think it to be.
The only bright spot is, as they say, "That which does not destroy me, makes me stronger". Thus, there seems no doubt that Pakistan will emerge stronger and more united than ever before after it has put an end to the taliban.
The one thing most Pakistanis still dont recognize I think is that the taliban are as much a creation of our generals as they are of rogues from saudi arabia, egypt, central asia. The media downplays this aspect of these "fellow muslims" - although it would be an added benefit for Pakistan if people recognize that "fellow muslims" are not necessarily friends of Pakistan either. And they would thus recognize that the "muslim world" is more complex than sacred lands inhabited by "pious arby-speaking muslims" that they think it to be.
#69 Posted by Pew_Research on June 19, 2009 3:26:28 am
Folks:
It should be clear now that The Pakistan Civil War of 2009 is spilling over from the ravines and fields of FATA and Swat to cyberspace. Chowk is the first cyber battlefield with folks like Pavo, Fakirlppi and Tahmed going at each other.
It should be clear now that The Pakistan Civil War of 2009 is spilling over from the ravines and fields of FATA and Swat to cyberspace. Chowk is the first cyber battlefield with folks like Pavo, Fakirlppi and Tahmed going at each other.
#68 Posted by Pew_Research on June 19, 2009 3:21:26 am
Re: # 53 Tahmed various
Sahib, you are now hyperventilating.
"...but these taliban are no match for the people of Pakistan. .."
But, the Taliban are the people of Pakistan
"...the Pakistani nation heaves a sigh of relief that these animals are finally being dispatched to hell..."
Curious geography - the ones in the west are going to hell, the ones in the east are going to heaven with 72 houries
Sahib, you are now hyperventilating.
"...but these taliban are no match for the people of Pakistan. .."
But, the Taliban are the people of Pakistan
"...the Pakistani nation heaves a sigh of relief that these animals are finally being dispatched to hell..."
Curious geography - the ones in the west are going to hell, the ones in the east are going to heaven with 72 houries
#67 Posted by Pew_Research on June 19, 2009 3:13:22 am
Re: # 46 Pavocavalry
It seems that old suspicions die hard. So, you think that the the recent operations by the Pak Army are all a show? Pretty good show, if it is one.
It seems that old suspicions die hard. So, you think that the the recent operations by the Pak Army are all a show? Pretty good show, if it is one.
#66 Posted by KHYBER on June 19, 2009 2:58:51 am
Thanks Tahmed, Nation has finally realised the gravity of situation and recognised the threat posed by Taliban to the integrity of the country.Taliban are worst enemies of Islam, They send suicide bombers to mosques and they demolish schools and shrines. They do everything that Islam and education prohibits. Anyone who supports Taliban are insane.
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/
#64 Posted by tahmed32 on June 19, 2009 2:36:08 am
and more barking isnt going to save your taliban masters either, per #53.
#63 Posted by KHYBER on June 19, 2009 2:35:05 am
Re: # 60tahmed32...I agree with your posts,like I said these guys are living in denial.
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/
http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/
#62 Posted by tahmed32 on June 19, 2009 2:34:41 am
#61 re-read #60. more barking isnt going to spare you from hell.
#61 Posted by FakirIppi on June 19, 2009 2:32:55 am
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#60 Posted by tahmed32 on June 19, 2009 2:29:46 am
#58 with the traitor musharraf no longer around to protect you scoundrels and mislead pakistanis with his "America's war" garbage - you can only bark now. but pakistan is kicking your filthy asses to hell.
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