A Prescription for the BJP's Revival

Re: # 579 Dm
[..Chinese were known as good-for-nothing opium eaters and not the disciplined and hard workers that they are known today...]

So you ahve to kill millions and torture rest in "re-education" camps to make it happen?...

Re: # 537

Shankar:

"My personal feeling was that it was Deng & his successors who brought about China's economic miracle. Mao didn't improve the lot of the Chinese."

True, but Deng could not have brought about the miracle if Mao had not paved the ground for it. Mao's Leap Forward did cause starvation death of millions of Chinese and his Cultural Revolution did cause great hardships, especially to Chinese intellectuals. But he also brought radical improvements in mass education and health and transformed China from a feudal society to an egalitarian one, ready for quick strides. One tends to forget that Chinese were known as good-for-nothing opium eaters and not the disciplined and hard workers that they are known today.

Re: # 571
Anil,
Given your devotion to India's failed democracy that continues to deny the basic human right to food to hundreds of millions of your fellow Indians, I am not surprised by your misguided advice to Malik and tahmed.

But I know your advice is self-serving. Your advice will guarantee that Pakistan remains a laggard nation in alleviating poverty, increasing literacy and reducing hunger. The feudal leaders will be guaranteed to rule Pakistan because their slaves will not be able to vote against their masters. Economy will continue to lag because of corruption and misrule by the likes of Sharif and Zardari.

While there is no guarantee that the military will abolish the feudal system, there is a record of rapid economic expansion under military that creates millions of jobs each year to employ the growing population of young people. Such employment opportunities and options serve to weaken the feudal stranglehold over the poor and disenfranchised in Pakistan. At least 2 million jobs a year were created under Musharraf's rule that opened up new opportunities for both urban and rural poor. The current mismanagement by Zardari's lot has cut that growth rate from 7-8% to less than 2%. It has sent Pakistan begging to the IMF because Pakistan's credit rating cut after Mush's departure does not qualify it for commercial loans on the open market.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

anil #571 thanks for your support. and more important, thanks for engaging in civilized and open-minded dialog even when we disagree.

you mentioned development of the Chinese coastal areas. This includes of course the special economic zones which seem to have played a critical role in attracting investments to china. I think something similar is on the works for the fata areas of Pakistan per the latest US aid bill - it will be interesting to see how it is implemented though. if it works, then these most backward areas of pakistan could well become among the most progressive - an ambitious goal but well worth the effort.

#575 haneef.gujar: thanks. i am glad you appreciate what my posts. look forward to hearing more from you on chowk.

PS: i see we both are part of the gujar tribe. hope that did not make you biased in my favor. :-)

this message is for tahmed. yaar i have been reading your messages for a long time. i just want to say that i have a lot of respect for what you write and i wish there were more pakistani's like you around. your words have left a lasting impression and as long as people like you are around...the voice of justice and progress will stay alive...take care yaara

Re: # 573 dude40000 he is the ideal candidate for replacing the credibilityless Zaid of brasstacks

Re: # 572

I think Riaz should host a reality show contest in Karachi called "Kaun banega Dictator". Contest would be open to all existing and retired Generals of Pak Army. Obviously, Riaz would be the judge and give the keys to President house to the winner.

Looks like harping on Shining India has burnt up Riaz's meagre brain-cells... he can't even think straight... If Paki Military could/would abolish feaudalism - they would have done so years ago - after all, they ahve been de facto in charge of pakiland for most of pakiland's existence...

Re: # 570

Riaz sahib:

"...Good luck with your expectation that PPP or PML will abolish the feudal system that is the source of their power..."

You talk sarcastically as if your favorite Army would abolish it. They too have used it and relied. What is amazing is your inability that if not tommorrow, but certainly in future, only democracy which gives more votes to Pakistani awam, can remove it. You have this mindset that people do not learn exercise their vote, because you do not want to see the real change east of the border. You want to see only railroad tracks for morning delights.

Empower them and defend the democratic institutions and you would see. You do not want to know what Chinese have been doing to develop coastal China. You are simply anamored by it. Any Pakistani, Malik or Tahmed who have alternate views you beat them up with the same vengence that you use against right wing hindus here. You have blinded yourself to the fact that no dictator could survive in Pakistan for more a few years, which are not enough for a nation to develop.

Malik and Tahmed sahib you have complete support of this foreigner and non-Muslim for whatever it is worth. It is a waste for you to engage in discussion with people like Riaz.

Pursuade young Pakistanis to have a dream and to go for it. Riaz's generation has given enough nightmares. They will make themselves irrelevant, not a minute too soon.

Re: # 567
Good luck with your expectation that PPP or PML will abolish the feudal system that is the source of their power.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

Re: # 568
No, I did not miss it.
India's low export volume and high trade deficits are a known problem,
especially when compare with China's performance.
But it's reduced the impact of global recession on India'seconomy.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

Riaz, you some how missed this one. I thought it will cheer you up :).

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/busines s/8128449.stm?ad=1

India's exports continue to fall .. India's exports fell in May for the eighth month in a row as overseas demand for goods continued to shrink in the global recession ..

Exports in May were valued at 534.3bn rupees ($11bn; £6.7bn), down 29.2% from 655bn rupees a year earlier, government figures showed ...

Exports are a significant driver behind the Indian economy, making up about 15% of gross domestic product.

Re: # 564
Feudalism can be abolished by democracy. Democracy is the only legitimate way of conducting business of the state.

Re: # 562 :D :D :D :D

I just cannot help it.....Tiger you are da man (T)

Re: # 564
A military dictatorship would be a disaster for Pakistanis, in the present situation. That would be a direct route into another break-up of the country.