Am I a Skeptical Muslim?

:D :D Riaz is so right...Pakistanis run rings around the Indians. Hafeez is totally free now....


Pakistan Supreme Court on Monday rejected, on technical grounds, two petitions by the Pakistan and Punjab [ Images ] governments challenging release of Hafiz Mohd Saeed, Jamaat-ud-Dawah chief and a key accused in the Mumbai [ Images ] attacks, from house arrest, prompting authorities to announce they will file fresh pleas after removing the flaws.

The petitions were submitted on Saturday even though the office of the Supreme Court registrar had not completed formalities for them to be taken up by a bench.

The petitions were rejected on Monday afternoon due to technical flaws, sources said.

Deputy Attorney General Shah Khawar told media persons that the registrar had returned the petitions as they challenged only the release of Saeed and his close aide Col (retd) Nazir Ahmed on the orders of the Lahore [ Images ] High Court.

The office of the registrar said two other JuD leaders -- Amir Hamza and Mufti Abdur Rehman -- who were originally party to the matter should also be included in the petitions, Khawar said.

A judicial review board freed hamza and Rehman, detained along with Saeed in December last year in the wake of the Mumbai attacks, in May.

Khawar said the petitions would be submitted again on Monday after removing the technical flaws.

Re: # 194 humsab it is called "second life" (T)

Re: # 193 nb there should be a section titled Riaz_haq not Indian-pakistani Slanging. This is a one man thing!

Mr. Riaz Haq

Have you been like this always or we evil hindus have turned you into what you are now? Till two days back, I was under the impression that you are a 20 something youngman and so fully empowered to go on and on the way you have been sometime with right argument and data and most of the time just to prove your point.
But recently, due to some good work done by Chowkie, I found that you are a much respected achiever rolling in something like middle age or late part of middle age.
Amazing performance, Sir.

Just looking at the last few interacts, why does every single article on FP end this way?
Can I suggest that Chowk have a separate section for Indian-Pakistan slanging where people like Riaz Haq can indulge themselves, whereas others can actually discuss things on the article boards.

NKG, I've not said anything new or outlandish. I admitted the facts while trying to show mirror to Riaz.

in one of the posts Harimau pointed out, why the tribals are like this...
Simply, they never wanted to be different and so called non tribals never tried to impose on them...now, when Govt. is trying to loot their resources, they want the share of development, which they deserve....they are loosing jungle, loosing mineral resources and even worse, people are trying to impose Christianity and HINDU culture on them.....So many tribal gods and goddesses lost their identity....Couple of them survived and VHP people are busy imposing them as avatar of Vishnu or Shiva ( indian inclusive ness!!!!!)....and they are fighting with each other in the name of Jesus and Durga...I think, in this respect, Pakistanis are little better......

sorry...
cover article of Outlook by Suzanne Arundhati Roy...

much of the points Riaz raises are quite valid, may not be in the same scale...What I like is, his setting up of good benchmark for India, which is quite decent....

VRV, it will be good to admit that many part of India is even worse than sub saharan africa...and we are making progress not in rapid pace...We can abuse Riaz or other Pakistanis, but the state of Bidharbha, Northern Maharashtra and adjacent areas of Gujrat, MP,C'tsgarh, J'kand, part of UP, Orissa and AP is realy bad state....SPread of naxalism is due to lack of development in these areas....Please read one article in Outlook...I do not like her, but her points about looting of minerals by corporates in central India is quite valid...Nehru,played lot of dirty cards in his early days as "King" of India... We are yer to get rid of this problem....

174, What does it tell? Pakistan Shining?

As for page 36, it's again the same regions that're problematic(India) & mind u it's not an all-India malady. Pakistan's under age 6 colour picture may look good and uniform in Punjab and Sindh (exception of Tharparkar dist) but by the time the children turn 7 then it becomes as grim as the adjoining regions of Punjab and Haryana due to high infant mortality rate.

Let me prick ur bubble here. Infant mortality rate in Pakistan is 66.94 (as per ur favourite source i.e. CIA World Factbook) and that of India's is 32.31. So the 'uniform' picture of Pakistan turns red as children cross their lactation stage.

Uff, u r such a empty head, Riaz.


178, India didnt have ultra sound tech & equipment?

ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL. Riazackass, the self-appointed Head of the self promoted Pak Alumni Wordlwide.

Waisay, u want to say that Islam is the way for India?

OH BTW your friends the chinese have just been on a killing spree. And guess what they have just sent some 150+ uighirs (muslims) to their maker.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8135203.stm

So I guess, they are no longer your freinds?

riaz, when it comes to female infanticide etc, the Indians are doing to themselves. They are not killing or maiming people outide their country. they are not exporting their vile ideology.

On the other hand the Pakistani establishment fro which you are a front man (for various things) export their foul and vile religious ideology to the ret of the worl and instigate young men to kill and maim their across the the world. to qoute sometihng I read "Fashionable opinion has it that fear creates terrorism, that jihadism is an invention of the paranoid western imagination. But the heartless voice instructing henchmen to kill two Jewish women hostages "because killing a Jew is worth 50 other murders" suggested that it's the other way round.

"This is a struggle between God and the unbelievers," explained one of the architects of the massacre, as he exhorted his young gunmen to kill as many unsuspecting Indians as possible. "When this is over, there will be much more fear in the world.""

So on one hand you have something which is kept internally within the Indians, and on the other you have your friends killing others.

I would like to hear your opinions on the this ideology of killing being exported by your friends

Infact, the edgy attitude of punjabis is because of all the ghallu garas and genocides that we have experienced in the past.

These genocides were un precedented and have deeply scarred the hindu psyche and destroyed their culture forever. The inculcation of martialness in every common man was actually a concious decision by the gurus and dharacharyas in response to the muslim genocide.

Sikh history has thankfully preserved an account in their history. Unfortunately such accounts were not always made a part of cultural history in other northern regions. Otherwise we would have been able to connect these dots in other cultures of UP as well.

Re: # 182
I a gree. When I was at Bangalore I found that we punjabis were RIGHTLY hated for our arrogance and uncouth behaviour.

Infact, even the muslims there were much mellowed compared to the uncouth punjabis.

Re: # 180
Laddu...
But still, I see, Indian culture alive in Southern States, Konkan and Orissa...Other places, the social indiscipline will tell you, who are they and why are they behaving such a way....The description of Megasthenes does not match with that of current Bihar or the way biharis behave. There are some definive pattern, which people here in Bangalore refer to as "brute North Indian culture"....

But then, how come those brute people composed most of the romantic literature from of Kalidasa?

How those indisiplined people can create marvels in Khajuraho or University of Nalanda with largest library of that time? A radical shift in culture....

Riaz...
I have watched South Indian girls for last 9/10 years in Mumbai and Bangalore and travelled couple of places in South India...

Many of the girls works here, are from lowest strata of society and from rural areas of Karnataka, Kerala, Tamilnadu and Andhra Pradesh....I have hardly seen any complexity of being girl.... Rather,they are far more open and honest...The veil system is non existant...A society with such value system; the scope of using technology to resort to female infanticide is very rare....