Gojra Incident ... Shame

Re: # 136

Jang,

You are right. I should not bring in outside issues.

giani

Re: # 49

You say:

"Mosque loudspeakers are used to incite people. There is hardly any desire (not to speak of effort) to verify the facts or seek the local administration or police to deal with the situation."

And you still recommend allowing loudspeakers in the mosques, especially when there is a Fatwa by 50 jayyad ulema of Deoband that use of the LS in the mosque is a 'Bidd'at and Harram'.

Re: # 147
Khyber, As usual, you have raised very some good points.
is hamam mein sub nange hain.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

Now comes the million dollar question: Will Article 6 be applied on the abettors of the two arrogations?The 'abettors' in the Article 6 include senior members of the present Supreme Court who abetted the coup in 1999. All members of the present Supreme Court of Pakistan had pledged their allegiance to Musharraf by taking the PCO oath in 2000.
Article 6 states in clause 2 that "any person aiding or abetting the acts mentioned in clause 1 shall likewise be guilty of high treason".Article 6 cannot be applied selectively on President Musharraf alone but will have to be applied equally on all those who 'abetted' him.Musharraf abrogated the Constitution twice. First in October 1999. It was a coup against an elected prime minister. Very few judges objected to the takeover and a majority of the judges took oath under the PCO, Parliament was dissolved and remained suspended for more than three years (endorsed by the Supreme Court) until it was reinstated in November 2002. The second was in November 2007 when the so called emergency rule was imposed. Interestingly, this was not a coup. The move targeted the judiciary. The government and the Parliament remained intact and the emergency lasted for six weeks.Once Mr. Musharraf is charged for treason, justice cannot be selectively applied only on the action of 3 November 2007 while ignoring the more serious action of October 1999. It will therefore be imperative to try Musharraf and his abettors both for October 1999 and November 2007.
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Re: # 145 Now comes the one million dollar question: Will Article 6 be applied on the abettors of the two arrogations?

The 'abettors' in the Article 6 include senior members of the present Supreme Court who abetted the coup in 1999. All members of the present Supreme Court of Pakistan had pledged their allegiance to Musharraf by taking the PCO oath in 2000.
Mwaqar
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Musharraf Committed Treason, The Chief Justice 'Abetted' Him.
Article 6 states in clause 2 that "any person aiding or abetting the acts mentioned in clause 1 shall likewise be guilty of high treason".

Article 6 cannot be applied selectively on President Musharraf alone but will have to be applied equally on all those who 'abetted' him.

Musharraf abrogated the Constitution twice. First in October 1999. It was a coup against an elected prime minister. Very few judges objected to the takeover and a majority of the judges took oath under the PCO, Parliament was dissolved and remained suspended for more than three years (endorsed by the Supreme Court) until it was reinstated in November 2002. The second was in November 2007 when the so called emergency rule was imposed. Interestingly, this was not a coup. The move targeted the judiciary. The government and the Parliament remained intact and the emergency lasted for six weeks.

Once Mr. Musharraf is charged for treason, justice cannot be selectively applied only on the action of 3 November 2007 while ignoring the more serious action of October 1999. It will therefore be imperative to try Musharraf and his abettors both for October 1999 and November 2007.
Mwaqar
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Re: # 142
Your personal attack and lies about me (this white lie about TIE, that reveals your own moral and intellectual bankruptcy) just show how incensed you are by the news I shared. Learn to deal with the facts, spare the personal innuendo.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

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Re: # 139 riaz seen the other list...the company of Pakistan :D
I will put it here for you...:D

Re: # 139Riaz...India claims to be a secular country but its not,India could not educate people there to be secular,I think Turkey is more secular then india. Intellectual secularism needs to be reinforced by secular activism but I think its never encouraged in India. More than 60 years after Independence, untouchability is alive and thriving in India’s hinterlands. Pockets of social change have been but mere drops in an ocean of casteism and prejudice.
If India can accurately be described as "secular," then Mike
Tyson is well within his rights to call himself "stable."

It's a good thing Mahatma Gandhi isn't alive today to see
the religious hatred that the political leaders of "secular
India" have wrought. If he were to meet Narendra Modi, the
Gujarat chief minister , Gandhi would be tempted to set aside nonviolence for a few minutes to give Modi a good beating.
Mwaqar
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US has put "Secular" Democracy India on on a list of states which failed to protect religious minorities.

The US Commission on International Religious Freedom says India was added to the list because of a "disturbing increase" in religious violence.

It mentioned the anti-Christian and anti-Muslim riots in Orissa and Gujarat in 2008 and 2002 respectively.

Other countries on the list include Afghanistan, Somalia and Cuba.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8200863.stm
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

Re: # 134

Tappan Bose, an Indian activist whose organization collected the data, says 86% of the civil service jobs in Indian-occupied Kahmir are held by Hindu pandits.

For more, watch this view:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d1-Zgo4nO8
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

Re: # 133RiazHaq...I agree,when ,'' Unable to respond to the arguments they start talkin crap,can't take the heat get out of kitchen,RIAZ Continue what you think is right.
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oye yar giani, yeh tumne accha nahi kiya :(

we should treat and judge riaj sahib solely on what he posts here on worldwide showk

Re: # 133

Riaz Mian,

do you deny what i have posted? Just to remind you, we did meet at Salim;s place for lunch in San Ramon!!!

giani