Shake What Yo Amma Gave You

Hi "exotic" lady:) This is more than a little pathetic. Why on earth would you want to describe something as tawdry and tedious as your experiences as a pole dancer? I think you are a wannabe fantasy novel writer who gets a kick out of impressing desis back home.

Judging from reactions here, it is amazing how many people cannot BELIEVE that todays woman can CHEAT, and can STRIP ( and much, much else; ) for fun.

It is not just the women on the media adverts and news, or Padash, my dear reader, - but your own sisters, wives and younger ( and older ) aunts too.

Women today have More sexual partners than men.

STUDY IN DEC 2008 :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/3685314/Young-women- have -more-sexual-partners-than-men.html

We can live without the prejudices, and stereotypes, of the innocent, harassed woman, and the domineering, idiotic husband of the PAST as promoted by women groups. Cut to the present!

WAKE UP, MALES! SPEAK UP!

...Just wanted to make the 300 mark. hehehehe! =)

ok, so why did she strip?
what did she get?
did she have a choice?
(crap) ahem!
the almost 300 interacts shows me u can write about any b/s topic in this world n ppl whould try to look for wisdom therein!
lagay raho bahiyo aur behno.. iss total bak bak may.. n let me know if any ONE of u is able to convince ANY other! (scholars!) :)
to strip or not to strip... thats certainly NOT the question!

I fully second what Mr anil and sattar have said here....

Bulleya,

… here we go again … with the usual “what-if-your-daughter” shit. The zealous moralist in you keeps missing the point.

Look, there is a time and place for everything. It is fine for one to have a moral position on an issue … just as long as he knows when to shut up. There is a time to suspend one’s personal biases and view the issue in a different light. This happens to be such a time. And this is how I’ve interpreted her calls to readers to avoid judgment. I fail to understand your fetish for moral pronouncements …

And why do you think her hiding the truth from her aunt necessary suggests negative self-assessment? Would you trust your aunt to keep a secret forever? I cited several reasons why she may want to remain anonymous. Take your pick. But you are going overboard with your obsession over the identity issue. It is a non-issue … and you need to move on.

Re: # 294

Romair:

How is it any different than you hiding behind your psuedonym at the very least? Please try to wear a different hat to answer this question.

Re: # 294
If getting attention was her objective than frankly using her own name was a better idea rather than this name.
And once again this non sense refernce to daughters has cropped up. Neither the writer nor Mr Sattar have claimed that stripping can be recommneded to any one. Our attitude towards these professions are frankly shaped by the society's prevalent mainstream opinion. We will stop our daughters primarily because we know society will decimate their living pattern for the rest of their lives.
And once agian why this insistence on knowing her identity? ITS HER CHOICE. She is just a writer damn it....And a good one....

sattar #: "Now, you may criticize the article as irrelevant, shallow, or not worthy of publication … and those may very well be valid points … but I fail to get why you are so bothered by her. I’ll cautiously say that … it all comes across as mediocre middleclass morality disguised as esoteric philosophical disagreements … sorta like what tahmed does. A crock of shit, I say …"

...i am neither bothered, nor do i consider the article shallow......i am not passing a moral judgement on anything......i am just wondering why the author, herself, is passing judgement on what she has done......

i think there is a significant double standard present here, even amongst the readers.....you seem to think that this is needed to make the world go around......fine.....maybe it is.....what are your moral views about it........would you pass a moral judgement on it......you seem to be criticizing those who are passing judgement on it.....

.....let me ask you a simple question.....if tomorrow your daughter said she wanted to be a stripper, would you have the courage to say, "fine, go ahead.....the world needs all kinds of people, to go around." ........if you would say that, then it would be clear that you, actually, aren't passing a moral judgement......however, if you would discourage her, then it means you have double standards......one for the profession, in general, and one for your own daughter and yourself.....

.......if one is going to come out and talk about a profession and a community, to highlight that there is nothing wrong with it.....then well and good.......more power to them....one can agree or disagree with them.......but if one is going to hide behind pseudonyms, and, still, say that one should, "shake what one's amma gave them," i.e. encouraging others to do the same, then one has dual moral standards.....

why write such an article then.....to get attention is all i can say.....such articles either belong in feminist magazines like herizons, or in hustler.......the two extremes, of magazines on women.....does this one belong to the former or later.......

dost-mittar #: ......it cannot be a fear of violence.....if the author didn't tell her own aunt, then it is, clearly, a moral judgement....

Padash, several times I’ve tried to read this article … but lacked the patience to get through all the details. Good luck with your future endeavors. A good dose of blasphemy serves a noble cause even if it doesn’t pay the property tax … it keeps us honest and forces us out of our bubbles.

And trust me, after a couple of drinks a transvestite does not look that bad at all.
So I’ve been told (laughing hysterically …)

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Urstruly dude, you never give up hoping … and that in turn may keep you from blowing yourself up anytime soon. Which makes me wonder if it’s really a good thing for the rest of us …

… watched “pakeezah” lately …? (grin)

Dimwit G,

Why dont you do ball dance on the pole, ie we hang you by your balls and you gyrate around it.

Padash darling or dear majanu muzumdar (in case you are same)

Why dont you have your pole on top of kaba stone? You will get ready cheering crowd. From tip of the pole with all your assets dangling and shaking please read following lodly to keep the sanctity of the place:

WHAT IS THE OPPOSITE SEX?
By Swami Veda Bharati



That which is the eternal, unmanifest cause, comprising both being and non-being is called Brahma. Having dwelt in that golden egg for a year, that lord through the meditation of his own self, divided that egg twofold. Dividing his body into two, he became a male by one half, and by the other half a female.

The Lawbook of Manu

This is a familiar motif in the creation tales of the ancient traditions of Asia: The Lord divided Himself into halves--one half became male, the other half, female. Or you might say, the Lord divided Herself into halves; it makes no difference whatsoever.

We encounter the same idea in Greek philosophy. Socrates speaks of the golden age when there was no division of sexes. As the golden age passed away, a split occurred--one became two, and each lost touch with its own other self. Since then, the male has been seeking the female and the female the male--both are seeking their counterparts since after the golden age. But because we are blinded by appearances, and our eyes cannot perceive that spiritual light by which we can recognize our counterparts, we stumble around experimenting, discarding, accepting, rejecting, trying out--all the while failing to find that one with whom we were united in the golden age.

In every individual, there is a male and there is a female. Because we have not balanced these two in ourselves, one becomes the primary and the other secondary in ourselves. Then we spend our lives seeking the other half in the external world.

Yoga can be regarded as the science of union with that lost counterpart, as the science of uniting female and male. As we progress spiritually, there comes a time when this apparent separation ceases and the two are seen as one. The yogis who wrote the Yoga Sutras also wrote the tantric texts. Tantra is the science of celibacy, the science of the internal union of the male and the female. A perfected being is one in whom the male and the female have become perfectly balanced. When otherness ceases to be, there is union within.

Not only have we divided ourselves into male and female, we have also divided ourselves into body and spirit. Within each of us, the kundalini force is lying coiled up, its power hidden because we have divided ourselves into an external self of the body and an internal self of the spirit. Having divided ourselves up in this way, we tend to identify with the body and dis-identify with the spirit. We start searching for the spiritual self, but the one who is doing the searching is that very spiritual self.

In the same way, we go around seeking fulfillment through the so-called opposite sex. But when we discover the virtues and the beauties that we contain within ourselves, then we become self-sufficient and self-dependent. What the male looks for in the female is within himself, just as what female looks for in the male is within herself. We are like the musk deer in the high Himalayan mountains, who are now on the verge of extinction. Legend has it that in a certain season, this musk deer wanders frantically from valley to hilltop and hilltop to valley searching desperately for the source of the intoxicating smell of musk that is coming from a gland near his own navel. He has been hunted to the brink of extinction for that very smell. Others know that the musk is in him, yet he does not know it.



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There is no opposite sex; what we are looking for out there is already within us. Carl Jung somewhat understood this. In his office he kept a picture of a statue in which the sculptor had brought out the totality, the perfection of both sexes. Jung would ask visitors, "Is this the picture of a male or a female?" Females would always say it's the picture of a male, and males would always say, "It's the picture of a female." Each recognized the other, but did not recognize herself or himself.

Just as we have split the male from the female part of ourselves and the female from the male, we are split between the external world and our spiritual selves. For this reason, a split occurs in our subtle energy. It becomes divided threefold: the central stream (called sushumna, the left stream (called ida), and the right stream (called pingala) interweaving like the snakes in the well-known medical symbol of the Caduceus.

The leftward force is called the female, the rightward force is called the male. We are seldom perfectly balanced in our lives. We either lean to the left or we lean to the right, in one way or another. We try our best to balance the two, but we lead an unbalanced life, a life in which we have attractions, aversions; aversions, attractions. We shift between one side and the other, but never take to the middle stream. This is why we fail to fully enjoy what is present before us, why we do not enjoy what has been given to us.

The art of enjoyment in life has only two parts: restraint and concentration. It is not possible to enjoy anything in life without these two. If you want to enjoy a painting, you have to restrain yourself from looking in all the other five thousand directions and concentrate on the painting. If you want to enjoy music, you have to refrain from every other thought and become totally absorbed in listening. Restraint and concentration are companions: Restrain from other things and concentrate on what you want to enjoy.

In their search for sexual satisfaction, people have not mastered either the art of restraint nor the art of concentration. If you restrain yourself from sexual indulgence for a period of time and enjoy other things about your companion, then the pleasure of sexual indulgence will be fully concentrated. This pleasure will be heightened if the sex act is undertaken primarily with the thought of giving pleasure to the other person. A person on the meditative path is considered fully celibate if his or her sexuality is a form of giving, rather than a means of personal satisfaction. If you practice restraint and concentration and undertake sex with the thought of giving pleasure to your partner, you will be surprised at the way your marriage and your satisfaction will bloom.

If you are on the meditative path, you will also want to learn to observe that energy that manifests itself outwardly as sexual energy and understand that it has an inward flow. In yoga, we are always trying to balance the left nostril and the right nostril. At most times, either your left nostril is flowing strongly or your right nostril. But there are a few, rare times when both nostrils flow with equal force. One of them is the moment of sexual climax. Just for a brief period, the left nostril and the right nostril in each individual participant of the sexual act flows equally. And the yogis say that it is not your union with the other partner that is bringing you this ecstasy, but the fact that for that moment, all the male and the female forces, the left force and the right force within you, have become so fully concentrated that both nostrils begin to flow equally and an ecstasy occurs.

The Sanskrit word for married couple is singular; it has no dual and plural as do other words in Sanskrit. This is because the outer partner is a projection of your opposite nature. The male in you, lady, is projected out there, and you embrace that male, your own other self, and vice versa. But if you keep looking only outwards, you will never find the essence of perfect satisfaction within you.

The yogis say that celibacy means a permanent union of the male and the female within you. So when the yogi whose kundalini is awake sits in long meditation, both nostrils begin to flow with equal force and he may sit that way for hours, even for days. He has entered the path of sushumna, he in whom the two sides have become absolutely balanced, experiences an ecstasy a million times greater than the ecstasy experienced in sexual climax for an unbroken period of hours and days. So he opens his eyes to the world and asks, "What is it that you people enjoy in sex? For a few seconds pleasure, there is so much trouble in the world."

Those of you who are on the meditative path and who are married will reap great rewards when you approach sex with restraint and concentration. Concentrate on one person, concentrate on one person's pleasure. Restrain yourself for awhile, and at those times, let your awareness flow inward and enjoy the art of celibacy.

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CCC, Mr. Masadi?? I assume this is a Communist Party that you have founded, the way Lenin founded the Communist Party in Russia and which had the initials CCCP.

PS: Dont worry about being banned - they dont ban you if you dont write something that you would never say to someone's face unless you had runner's shoes on (to make a quick getaway before getting beaned by the second party).

tahmed writes "#281 Sociologist: Congratulations on your new nick. Provides a touch of academia meshed with that special je ne cest quoi and panache that, pulled together, spells M-i-s-t-e-r M-a-s-a-d-i."

A cheap attempt at alerting chowk authorities who will soon just like Yahya have to relinquish their illegitimate rule and abuse of power and hand over government to ZAB, in this case the CCC.

#288 tahmed32
Ouvrez la brèche et le diable va entrer. Voyez-vous?

C'est vrai!! (and not vrais)

#287 Regards: C'est vrais!! Merci Monsieur.

#283 tahmed32 small correction. It is - Je ne sais quoi?

Sorry for that.