Defeating the Taliban in Pakistan

Another bomb has gone off in Peshawar...

Root cause of the latest bomb

paki heads up their asses..perfect example, prophet tahmed(peace be unto his self-righteous butt cheeks)..pakis blaming india, israel and the US for the last bomb...

Re: # 20 ahmed madani, all ispr briefing shows is captured 82mm tank armor piercing mortars, captured from Taliban, actually india doesnt use 82 mm, only 81mm mortars. these are south African origin mortars. in case you have something more to say, than empty propaganda pls come up with some concrete evidence. if yo have enough evidence pls ask rehman malik, to lodge a complaint against us in the UN, or the international court of justice.

We Indians are just using Islam, to just mock Pakistani`s, which i think is not right. As the saying goes in Tamil, its easy to watch someones mother going mad, but difficult to see ones own facing the same problem.
pls see this article in the national, uae, dated 8th nov 2009.
written by manan ahmed,
"The true crisis facing Pakistan is not the Taliban: it is the rupture between the federal state and its constituent parts, and Islamabad’s refusal to accede to the legitimate needs and demands of its citizens in places like Swat and Baluchistan. It is a rupture, indeed, that is written into the very fabric of the state, and the reason why Bangladesh seceded from West Pakistan in 1971, after it was denied political legitimacy by the military regime and then brutalised by an oppressive army operation aimed at quashing any opposition.

But the Pakistan Army learnt exactly the wrong lesson from Bangladesh: since 1971 it has been determined to move as rapidly and violently as possible against any sub-nationalist movement elsewhere in Pakistan. The spectre of Taliban conquering Islamabad and the state’s American-backed resolve to press on in a series of wars against its own people have effectively ended any chance for political consideration of the Baluchistan issue. Instead Baluchistan will be, once again, merely an empty badland where Taliban are hiding, waiting, plotting. It awaits yet another military operation. And we await another declaration of success."

Its funny to read all these comments mocking an article that proposes something constructive and different. Current strategy sure is not working well right now so why not try a new strategy. Or a mix of both. Its not new thought, many people have proposed it.
What's wrong with this thinking?

This article reminds me of the best way to kill a mosquito, which goes as follows:

1. Catch the mosquito to be killed.

2. Lift one of its legs and tickle it.

3. When mosquito opens its mouth to laugh, throw in a pinch of DDT in its throat.

Khail khatam paisa hazam

Actually if india and aghanistan is defeated all terror will come down as most terror starts from Kabul and delhi always and bombs blow up in pakistan. If india is broken by usa terror problem will be solved any efforts, if you cuts roots of trees those poisonous fruits will not grow. It is time to go to source and break india and afghanistan and let broken parts fight with each other so peace will be restored back home. China and america needs to work on project and pakistan can get some relief it deserves.

Re: # 20 Please pak ww by prof R Haq about great struggle going in india by poor mao followers. Kindly read and study his compilation done painfully and india exposed with going violence in addition to kashmir and tamil nadu fighters and is going to burn all central india and they slowly and surely surrounding big cities. Presently our army is distracted by taliban an indian inspired and fueled terroe and terror in B.Stan and by Kabul.Once this operation is finished they will pay more attention to east and south and huge army group centre with armed elite guard forces are massing against India along Rahim Yar khan. India is lucky as america will bitch if pakistan attacks india and teaches lesson to india , and bill obliges army to not too much hard pressed baniya armies. Lucky break but when american wounds up all will be over. Good luck you people enjoy and eat pans and spit against pakistan, as after wards when tank supported thrust drives begins against india along with F-16 and Cobra helicopters ad dones softening indian army all pretentions and leading to total destructons going to turn Indian and upset indian mental condition for next 200 years. Good day. Yu people are mierable like people throwing stines and sticks at caged ferious tiger.Once he roams free of american suppression will ruler of all indian subcontinent. Lahore will capital of united panjab. bye.

Re: # 19 Arjun please note contribution of foreigner for helping terror in pakistan id almst 80% and ony 20% are due holy religois fighters. India is doing 40% contribution , israel about 50% and 10% americam contribution.
very small is local content. In India its mostly byhindus planting boms and toying with its ak-47.

The solution to the taliban is obvious....bury your heads deeper into your asses..

In Peshawar, state of denial over market attack culprits
MANY BLAME 'FOREIGN HANDS'
'Taliban would never do this terrible thing'

By Pamela Constable
Washington Post Foreign Service
Saturday, November 7, 2009

PESHAWAR, PAKISTAN -- When terrorists last week blew up the Mina Bazaar, a market for women and children, they detonated a car bomb so powerful it left more than 100 people dead and 15 missing in a nightmarish scene of scattered limbs, charred corpses and victims trapped alive under mounds of debris.

The bombing crossed a new line of callousness, uniting Peshawar in grief and fear and unleashing a tide of anger. But most of the outrage expressed by survivors, witnesses, religious leaders and other residents this week was not directed at Islamist extremist groups, whom the government has blamed for the attack, but at the countries many Pakistanis see as their true enemies: India, Israel and the United States.

In part, this reaction stems from a deep popular conviction that no Muslim could perpetrate such atrocities against other Muslims. The more egregious the attack, the stronger seems the tendency to deny a domestic cause and blame other, more remote culprits. Some religious and political groups are encouraging such responses, eager to whip up xenophobic sentiment for their own ends.

This week, the influential Jamaat-e-Islami religious party organized a "peace march" in central Peshawar from the Khyber Bazaar, where a car bomb killed more than 30 people Oct. 9, to the Mina Bazaar. The marchers held up banners and shouted slogans denouncing the CIA, the Pentagon, the security company formerly known as Blackwater, U.S. drone attacks and American aid. There was no mention of the Taliban or al-Qaeda.

"Muslims! Muslims! We are here to protest against those wrongdoers who work for India, Israel and the United States," a well-dressed, middle-aged rally organizer shouted through a bullhorn. "We protest against American interference and against our government, which is handing over Pakistan to the foreigners and the unbelievers."

Spokesmen for the Pakistani Taliban and al-Qaeda denied responsibility for the Mina Bazaar blast, saying they condemned the killing of innocents. But Pakistani and U.S. officials say the recent wave of bombings has been in direct retaliation for an ongoing army operation against Taliban tribal sanctuaries in the northwest border region of South Waziristan that began about one month ago.

Militants have also gone after a range of targets in other Pakistani cities, striking at an Islamic university and a U.N. compound in Islamabad, army facilities in Rawalpindi and police academies in Lahore. The widening terrorist scourge has increased public antipathy for the militants, solidified support for the military crackdown and turned the capital into a virtual garrison city, with riot police and traffic checks every few blocks.

Opinion polls have shown that most Pakistanis regard al-Qaeda and the Taliban as a threat. Yet Pakistanis, always sensitive to foreign intrusion, are volubly unhappy about the air strikes by U.S. unmanned planes that have been targeting al-Qaeda and Taliban leaders, sometimes killing civilians. When Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton visited Pakistan recently, audiences grilled her about the drone attacks, the ongoing U.S. Embassy expansion and persistent rumors that private U.S. security contractors are prowling Pakistan in search of its nuclear arsenal.
A city under siege

In Peshawar, which borders the tribal belt, the spillover from the South Waziristan conflict has been especially grim. Since the army operation began, more than 250 people have been killed here in half a dozen bombings at restaurants, mosques, army facilities and busy markets.

The attacks have changed the way of life in this ancient, unhurried city near the Afghan border. For generations, it has been a world of plodding donkeys, creaking horse carts, shaded religious shrines and twisting alleys of tiny shops, where bargaining is often a leisurely ritual over bowls of green tea.

Now, no one lingers. A wave of bombings in the past month, culminating in the deadliest blast yet at the bustling market Oct. 28, has sent a jolt of panic through the city of 2 million. Police search cars and then hustle drivers on their way. Shoppers grab their purchases and go. Mosques empty quickly after prayers, and tea stalls have few customers.

"Our life will never be the same," said Bahkt Lal, 26, whose family has owned a restaurant near the Mina Bazaar since 1920. He was cooking lunch when the bomb exploded and the building he was in collapsed. His brother was crushed to death, and Lal was hit on the head. "At night I still think the walls are falling on me," he said. "No one knows when the next attack will come. I am afraid to sit inside or go out."
Unswayed by evidence

Yet as workers continued sifting through the rubble of the Mina Bazaar this week, spewing clouds of plaster dust, shopkeepers and survivors alike insisted that foreign hands were behind the attack.

Shah Zamin, 35, who sells bales of raw cotton, said the stall ignited when the bomb exploded, engulfing his brother in flames. "I tried to save him, but his body was too hot to touch. He fell and died in front of me," Zamin said, grimacing at the memory. "I am certain that the Taliban would never do this terrible thing. It must be the foreigners, who want to give a bad name to Islam."

There was ample evidence, however, that the attackers had an Islamic fundamentalist agenda of keeping women in seclusion. Merchants sweeping out broken glass from women's clothing and sundry shops said unsigned posters had appeared in the bazaar shortly before the bombing, warning them not to sell cosmetics or display female mannequins.

Several miles away, in a rustic cemetery surrounding the historical Rahman Baba shrine, the bodies of a dozen women and children from the blast lay buried under new mounds of earth, some decorated with tinsel hearts or tiny plants. Gravediggers said they had never had to perform such grisly duty.

"They brought us bags with arms and legs, bodies burned so badly no one could identify them," said Fauji, 45, a graveyard tender. The message asked mourners not to weep but to recite from the Koran. "This is the worst thing I have ever seen," Fauji said. "It must have been the work of foreign hands."

Waleed,

The fundamental error again, the taliban are not in FATA. They are every where, streaming out of the madrassas in punjab, supported by the mums and dads of pakistan, in their attempt to understand, pakistan ka matlab kya.

the military operation will only increase the taliban, and support for it with in the military will increase and the mullah general will take over.

Do not forget that the general killed in rawalpindi had full grown beard and he used to give jihadic talks to military. Do not forget that nearly fifty percent fo paki army men are bearded variety, and they were in madrassas with the jihadis.

Madrassa products have only two options, either to join army or jihadis.

Do not forget that the paki army motto is jihad in the name of God, not different from the jihadis.

I do hope that the poor paki soldiers will quit that army enmasse and join taliban. A few months ago, 400 troops along with a few officers surrendered to taliban and happily came back with a few thousand rupees in their pockets given by taliban

Re: #15 nkg

Likewise old cousin, we'll still have height advantage ;)

Re: # 15, yeah, except the problem is dropping a nuke is not like going out for a walk, otherwise the NATO would have dropped a few nukes into Afganistan and Iran to solve all problems, hell they would have dropped nukes at anyone who could say Allah

Re: # 4
asadaly...
bedu calculation is not applicable in modern war...couple of nukes dropped from su-30mki or tu22m3, everything will be over in couple of seconds. big chest,ak47,korun,baboor,ghajnavi....will be immaterial....

Re: # 12 wow, i don't know how you got the figure of 2,500 sq km. South Waziristan is about 11,585 km².

And army is doing just fine incase you haven't read the news lately, and the morale is sky high. i quote the BBC "that the military does seem to have made significant gains in its campaign in South Waziristan so far"

Now if you excuse me i have some Taliban to kill this evening. Have a good day.

""""religiously-inspired militant commanders"""""

See!

I told you its all about gruesome Islam!

Once they get de-branded (away from Islam) peace would return.

Islam is a root cause of all the evils.
And the Quran is a manual of terrorism.

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