Sex Everywhere

very sad.
one thing is proved by your article ,the sex is the strongest tool to keep the life runing.
you didn`t mention the sex in animals and birds.That is also interesting.

New Translation Puts `Kamasutra` in new Light

Wed Mar 27,12:32 PM ET

By JILL LAWLESS, Associated Press Writer

LONDON - More than 1,700 years after it was completed by an enigmatic Indian scribe, the ``Kamasutra`` is among the most famous Hindu books ever written — and, many believe, the most misunderstood.



Most who have encountered the book recall it as a do-it-yourself sex manual, an eye-opening encyclopedia of acrobatic positions.

Academics hope a frank new translation will help the ``Kamasutra`` — which means ``a treatise on desire`` — shake its saucy reputation and regain its status as a literary classic.

``It`s by far the most complete and interesting work about sexual psychology that has been written — a cross between `The Joy of Sex` and `Lady Chatterly`s Lover,``` said Wendy Doniger, who translated the book from the original Sanskrit with psychoanalyst Sudhir Kakar.

``The great misconception is that it is about the positions, which is the silliest part of the book, and a very short part of the book,`` she added.

``Kamasutra`` was released today in Britain and Oxford University Press will hit bookstores in the United States in June.

Written probably in 3rd-century Northern India by Vatsyayana Mallanaga, ``Kamasutra`` catalogs sexual positions, enumerates the varieties of kissing and expounds on the amorous role of scratching and biting.

But it also tells readers how to flirt, conduct a lovers` quarrel, seduce someone else`s spouse and blend potions to stimulate a sagging libido.

It even advises a woman on ways to dump an unwanted lover: ``She talks about things he does not know about. She shows no amazement, but only contempt, for the things he does know about. She punctures his pride.``

With its aphoristic advice on attracting, satisfying, keeping and shedding a partner, the book is often more ``Sex in the City`` than sex manual.

``It is always said to be a book about man`s manipulation of women, but a great deal of it is about women`s manipulation of men,`` Doniger says. ``It`s really about power, politics and sex.``

Doniger, who teaches the history of religion at the University of Chicago, says the ``Kamasutra`` has been ill-served by its best-known English translation, completed in 1883 by British writer-explorer Sir Richard Burton.

Doniger says Burton`s language is ``Victorian and flowery,`` while the original Sanskrit is direct and robust.

``The Kamasutra is punchy, Hemingwayesque — `he touches her here, she bites him there,``` Doniger said.

``Burton uses the Hindu words `lingam` and `yoni` to refer to the sexual organs. These words are not in the original text. ... Burton takes all the ambiguity out, and makes it sound like some weird `Orientalist` thing, whereas the book is about us.``

The new Oxford Classics edition is noticeably more direct than its Victorian predecessor. What Burton calls ``supported congress,`` the new book terms ``sex standing up.``

The two editions agree, however, on the ``lotus`` position and the gymnastic embrace called ``splitting the bamboo.``

That kind of exotic eroticism has made ``Kamasutra`` the bane of generations of parents and teachers, and the book remains controversial. Indian-born director Mira Nair`s 1996 film, ``Kamasutra — a Tale of Love,`` loosely based on the book, was stalled for more than a year by Indian censors before finally being screened.

Doniger says the book`s reputation has obscured its value as a work of literature. She says it can be read as a play in seven acts, following its male and female protagonists from seduction through separation, and as an idealized portrait of a sophisticated, monied society.

``No one in this book ever goes to the shop, no one ever goes to see his mother. All you do all day is plan for the night and get ready for it,`` she said. ``Its like a Playboy Mansion life.

``Training parrots and mynah birds to talk and going to cockfights, what sort of food and liquor to serve at a party — the life of pleasure is beautifully evoked. But a lot of it is about men and women in ways that have not changed.

``It`s an enormously complicated book on the psychology of sex, the psychology of erotic arousal.``

And those illustrations — they were added much later.

``They`re an afterthought,`` Doniger said. ``A very famous afterthought.``

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i agree to what is mention. i have lived, work, studied in USA, England and Pakistan.

As public health doctor, aids and sex diseases and drugs/substance abuse , nutrition and maternal and child and human rights and mental health educator .

Read what i send to UNICEF:

To All Health Care Providers of World and Human Beings:

I like to ask Health care providers of Pakistan. Especialy Doctors to stop sexual abuse/harrasment of young girls/women in hospital/clinic/hostel/surgical theatre.

i am witnes and saw my self muslim pakistani doctors having sex with , schoolgirls(10-15); college girls(14-18);

university/medical/engineering college girls and women(15-25). they also harres them, take their clothes off during

physical examination ( to see them nude and fondle their breast) When young and beautiful girl/women come they even

through deception have gang rape them.

doctors are responsible to transmit Hepatitis(HBV/HCV) sex diseases and even HIV in Pakistan and i think it must

have happen in other parts of world. i like if those who have abused and unicef and lawful agencies should get these

doctors punished as most go unpunished.

one time i saw three college girls( white dress)in boys hostel/dormitory, as they came out of room ,i was astonished . as

i kow the medical student who live there, i in evening ask why these young virgin college girls were here? he said,`` We

all 3 girls and him played polo game of sex``. Can you think one medical student( 20-22 years) deflowering three virgin

college girls (15-18 years). dont you tink he can infect them with hepatitis as he is a womenizer

As i try to report but no body want to fight with these doctor criminals and still it happens and now they even have sex

with female medical students and at times young female unmarried and married doctors.

please do ask govt., to stop this as it is spreading AIDS and stds in pakistan and globally.

Public health consultant

dr ali imran

Email:

saliimran@hotmail.com

Its easy to criticize Pakistan and whats happening there, why don’t we draw a comparison with some of the more developed countries in the world. This doesn’t mean that I am trying to justify what happens in Pakistan, all I am trying to say that the situation is not pertinent to Pakistan only, we only tend to make it look more bleak there.

What an eye opener...

Its sad that so few of us who grew up there or visited know so little of the secrets of the dark allys behind our own bungalows.

What are you trying to convey in your article ?

Everybody knows that these king of activities have been continuing even in the deep past. Please help me clear up my mind ....

Sex in our society, Sex in Islam and the hypocrisy of our society!

Congratulations to INITIATE the communication on this vacuum in our minds, in our conduct and in our society! Thanx to what? Our religion? NO! Thanx to our cultural upbringing, ignorance and the pseudo naik parveen attitude of our society, which allows sex everywhere, as entailed in this article, which condones sex as ``student life kae mashghaley`` in the most pathetic excuse I ever heard, it accepts marrying off their daughters to those very students, but will run amok if a girl speaks of ``hush…. that disease``, called AIDS! No, I am not exaggerating, I hardly could believe my ears, when a literature graduate mother, of educated background hushed her then medical student daughter into silence while we were discussing about HIV and AIDS, telling her ``ek to tum be dharak is bimari ka naam laeti ho, kuchh to khyal karo!``

As pointed out in some excellent responses to this article, Sex is hushed and curtained off to the bedroom and speaking about it is a sin, accredits a loose character and well, I could go on echoing all those remarks, already expressed.

Grown up in the west, being educated in the normal public schools and experiencing the era when sex education was introduced in the curriculum of German schools, I could follow the conservative attitude of our society, but what shattered my respect for our society was the hypocrisy as pointed out above. In the West I knew what people thought, you knew who is sexually active or at least you knew how they think of it and thus also protect yourself in some way from it. Boys knew I wouldn`t date, so I wasn`t asked. In Pakistan, you couldn`t guarantee and know where the person would have been around, the very person you may end up marrying thru a proposal ``with good and respected family background and bright future`` I would have loved to see the faces of people, if a girl would have asked him to get his HIV test done before saying yes, let alone his attitude towards family planning or contraceptives!

Can we endorse this hypocrisy as a society? As Muslims or even with our secularist attitude, which means nothing more, than that the belief is only between God and the human being, the very concept of the Qur`an only in a slightly different perspective. (ch4310ag@usa.net, if u like to discuss on this)

I can`t accept this ignorance and hypocrisy, neither as a Muslim nor as a responsible citizen of any society, be it ANYWHERE in the world!! I thus pondered over this hypocrisy and found many answers, which collectively I would title as ``ignorance and uneasiness of expression with respect to our sexuality, blindly following cultures and traditions, instead challenging it through education, as Muslim in the days of Muhammad (S) used to do``. They used to come up to him and ask and discuss issues pertaining to sexuality; shyness is indeed a virtue of a Muslim-male or female, but not in matters of knowledge or deen/concept of life (Islam). Any person, yes in fact even child who read the Qur`an and understand it, will come across the teaching pertaining to reproduction, creation, family life, sexual positions (Sura Baqara) and even ejaculation.

Sex is not a ``dirty word``, as per our cultural concepts; it is a gift of God to mankind. Islam provides a legal frame to enjoy this blessing from God, which is NOT only for procreation. The sexual urge should be enjoyed as His blessing, but within a commitment. Contrary to some religions and philosophies, Islam doesn`t degrade Sex to the status of `` lust of flesh, thus sinful, which the soul has to conquer. In fact exercised within the appropriate frame it is not only a source of emotional satisfaction and enjoyment, thence peace, but also a source of hasana is promised in return.

In this very light, we Muslims should emancipate ourselves in the light of the open minded and very modern concept of life-Islam, abrogating all those cultural and traditional influences, which only turn the wheel backwards.

Sex education should start at home or in the frame of Islamic Sunday/Friday Schools, wherever the possibility is given. It should however be actively supported through the participation and support, as well as objective answering to the questions through parents and may be elder siblings. In the Islamic Schools Muslim teachers, pref. Physicians should come forward and fill this vacuum. What should be taught? Anatomical and physiological aspects, table of puberty, along with the physical changes, need for family life, Sexual drive, menstruation and pre menstrual syndrome, conception and development of the child/foetus, contraception and then also the STD`s and the Islamic concepts of it. The emotional, mental and social aspects of puberty should be discussed, moral, social and Islamic ethics of Sexuality should be brought forth and in the western hemisphere tell them how to avoid peer pressure.

Preferably premarital counselling should be conducted, including Sex education. Scholars prefer Sex education in separate classes, contrary to the model in Iran, as described somewhere. We should however not forget the potential of marital counselling along with sex education in marital life.

Wee need to grow out of the traditional baggage and pressure, which we carried along with us for centuries, malpractising the most modern concept of life, if we only gave ourselves the chance to understand it. The potential is enormous, we only need to take up the challenge and give ourselves the chance, thus abrogating this hypocrisy in our society of which we ourselves-me and you, are a part.

A proper Sex education may not only be an effort against this hypocrisy and a potential towards amore natural attitude to sex, but also help to fight a very grave crime child sex abuse. It could happen to your child, get involved and prevent it, fight it!

your article is very true why wouldnt it be because the Day of Judgement i.e Qiyamat is very near n all this is the signs which were to happen before the real big clamities fall on us ,as muslims we should pray to Allah that He save us from the temptings of shaitan because shaitan makes us think that this is the only life n we should do what ever we can n no one is looking but we forget the Great Being Who brought us into this world n Who knows what a black ant is doing in the black mountain n what the ppl r even thinking in their hearts Allah is just watching n His Angels r just writing down what ever we r doing n then soon on the day of judgement all will be revealed n ppl will be judged according to their actions in this world

All i am saying is that no one is perfect n without sin but if we pray to Allah n repent sincerely then Allah Subhanaowatala will forgive us inshAllah

enjoy life but with remembering Allah n praying

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

Even though this report by Richard Galpin is old news by now, it will always stay relevant:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south%5Fasia/newsid%5F248000/248219.stm

Another one of the practices of sexual abuse that exists in Pakistan, as some of my high school class mates boasted about personally indulging in at some point in time, is teenage boys having ``consensual`` sex with their naukranis - sort of an extension of the slave-girl syndrome!

Interesting Note:

One doesn`t have to hear all the existing latifas on the subject to realize that homesexuality is actually kind of like celebrating one`s masculinity if one happens to be on the ``top`` a.k.a mard ka baChCha! It`s when you`re a bottom that all hell (and maybe some bowels) break loose!

Punjab Special:

Do all those news-clips/surKhiyaN about women being dragged in the streets of *put in your favorite town/locality * after their clothes have been torn to pieces, on the premise of some grievances against the victims` family at-large, simply not register?

khulla khao tay nuNga nahao,

maTha

What is it about s-x that fascinates us all? After all, S-x is nothing new or unusual to the human race or the other species of animals that share the planet with us. It seems the people who run the Chowk decided that re-posting this article after a few months was a good idea. So clearly s-x has commercial value. S-x Sells has long been the catchword of the movie industry.

Pakistanis have long adopted an ostrich like attitude towards s-x, so much that in our daily lives in Pakistan it can aptly be described as, “See no S-x, hear no S-x.” We try not to discuss it and go to lengths to cover up its existence. What are we afraid of? Why are we afraid of it? Are we afraid of the primordial urge that threatens to overpower and destroy everything that gets in its way? Are we afraid that this deep rooted passion in nature (also known as LUST) cannot be controlled? Is this why women must be locked up? Our society only tolerates sex within the confines of the chardivari and the marital bed for purposes of procreation. But, this is a denial of human nature (which never mandated monogamy), for s-x is a completely natural act unfettered by social cum religious restrictions developed over time. The human reproductive system and sexual organs were designed for round the year mating. There are sound biological reasons why nature has made it more difficult for a women to achieve an orgasm in the course of a single sexual act, with a single male (unless he really knows what he’s doing, and is a very uncharacteristically unselfish male). If the man does not make a deliberate effort to satisfy his female partner’s desires, he ends up with a sexually frustrated female and a poor marriage. In Pakistan, a woman is supposed to be an almost asexual creature. No outward expression of sexuality or even sensuality is tolerated by society. Are we afraid of a woman’s libido? Everyone knows men want s-x from the ages of 14 and up, but what about women? Does anyone care about what they want?

Everyone has secret desires and fantasies, denying they exist leads to mental and emotional problems in life. Sexual fantasies ought to be encouraged as a means of escape rather than condemned as deviant. 98% of men masturbate in life. So what? Most women can get more pleasure from masturbating with their clitoris than through vaginal intercourse. That is very threatening to the fragile male egos that Pakistani men carry around with them (Just read Tehmina Durrani’s account of her marriage to G.M Khar in “My Feudal Lord”).

It’s a common enough sight, a woman in a black Burqa with a wailing new born in her hands, letting it suckle at her breast in public, which you catch sight of as you laughingly pass by in your air conditioned car. You laugh all the more loudly at this spectacle because it defies all of society’s attempts to hide it from your eyes, under an all encompassing Burqa, which nevertheless your eyes glimpsed through for an instant. Well, its just like all those National Geographic Pictures of the Amazon Indians in their serene and peaceful surroundings, bare assed and bare tited! But not even remotely sexy! (At least in my opinion).

So, What is Sexy? Is it by definition the forbidden fruit, the stolen glances, the hint of unbounded passion rising from deep within the busom of a modestly dressed dupatta clad female? Is it the allure of the bright lights on the catwalk and the accompanying greasy pole used by writhing strippers in their acts? Is it a girl in a bikini on the beach? Is it the bare flesh that excites you or is it the fantasies of your imagination? Or is it the forbidden nature of the act itself? For some, watching a mujra is titillating enough. Are u a secret voyeur? Do u like to watch? Does it turn you on? There is a famous saying about what most men want their wives to be, “a lady in the living room, a maid in the Kitchen, and a whore in the bedroom.”

Someone related the following tale to me. On returning home with his Bride after their Wedding in Karachi, the bride & groom were left alone to their privacy in their bedroom. A few hours later, at about 4:00 am, a clearly distraught groom emerged from the bedroom, and walking into the living room, wherein he found his mother, sitting on the couch (for no one sleeps in a Shaadi Ka Ghar), sat down at her feet, buried his head into her lap and cried out, “Amma Mujh say nahinh ho raha” repeatedly! The whole household was astounded at his audacity.

The next morning his cousins (perhaps shamed at his perceived lack of masculinity/virility) went down to the local video store and rented 4-5 x-rated pornos. They then sat him down in front on the T.V & VCR and gave him a crash course in sex education, naturally since the video was made in the West, the highlights of this crash course probably included group s-x, sodomy, S&M and other “deviant” practices.

The Upshot of this was that the following day, upon waking up at about 10:00 am , this very same gentleman strode confidently out of his bedroom, and in a loud, self-satisfied voice demanded, “Khana Lao, bohat bhook lagee hai!”

The moral of this hilarious story is two fold a) If you’re too much of a straight and narrow type (the type who always obeys one’s elders & attends Friday prayers conscientiously), you may find yourself the object of both pity/humiliation at your lack of “experience”, and b) Sweeping s-x under the rug by Islamic society actually encourages the proliferation of the forbidden/deviant forms of sex. If you think education is expensive, try ignorance!

In Iran the Ayatollahs agreed long ago that family planning was essential, and now all couples to be married are required to attend a family planning & Sexual education course before they are given a marriage license. They are required to attend the course together, prior to marriage. It works, the birth rate has come down dramatically from the days of Khomeni.

I have heard of husbands who force their virgin wives to watch pornos on their wedding night and then reenact the acts depicted therein. Most of those acts are probably UnIslamic, but this is what passes for S-x Ed in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

A little known fact about Pakistan is that bestiality exists on a wide scale. (Yup, some Pakis like to f--k goats etc, and this is known internationally). Its certainly no surprise that in a sexually repressed and segregated society, situational homosexuality is also widespread.

AIDS and other STDs are spreading fast in Pakistan. Save yourselves! Learn how to use a Condom, and get rid of all the hangups you have about s-x because life is short and you only live once!

Assalamu alaikum, That was a very well written article. And im 100% sure that it was true. Well most of these replies and counter replies have basically stated everything i could think of so i think i`ll just talk about something else now ;)

I saw a lifetime special on a womens shelter called Dastak (i believe) and it dawned upon me that pakistan is the most twisted country ive ever been to, and next time i go there, I`m going to do some investigating :) Btw, even if Man and Woman are accused of Zina, chances are that the man will recieve less punishment than the woman, if not nothing

Take care

Javed

dear AA

i have just finished reading uor article and symphatize with all those girls who have suffered at the hands of these men. i pray that one day its all going to change and some of us(men) who r making the lives of women miserable will meet their horrible fate.

sund1

(fahd ali)

u980044@mailsvr.giki.edu.pk

cactus124@hotmail.com

Looks like the discussion does not stop on this article (written almost an year ago!). Clearly the author has touched upon something deeply troubling/interesting to all of us.

Everything written in the article has been happening not only in the region but also all over the Islamic world. Its only a matter of how rampant it gets. Sometimes a society becomes more conscious of whats happening around it and specially the media plays a major role in this. There were times like the Zia era when the censorship on both print and electronic media was so intense that even mentioning rape and sex was considered a big taboo. Lately we have seen that the media specially the print media has increasingly become open in discussing issues like rape and homosexuality rather they sometimes find such stories commercially more viable.

The recent incident in NWFP where a police constable shot his young male lover with his official gun on refusing to oblige the constable got so much publicity in our press and even intricate details were discussed. Likewise the Clinton- Lewinsky details were translated in Urdu and published in full detail by one of the mainstream Urdu dailies in Lahore.

Its not that that incidents like the NWFP constable one did not happen earlier but they were not given such widespread coverage.

If you study the history of Mughals there were kings and ministers who openely practised homosexuality and they used to have both female mistresses and male `londas` and some of the more liberal historians have discussed them.

To make a long story short I would say that rape sex and homosexuality like any other society or culture are also a part of out Pakistani society but people dont want to discuss them and I think thats the beauty of our society. You may call it hypocricy or whatever but on the surface atleast we are an Islamic society and the innocent young minds do not get to read such horrid details about rape and same sex lovers. Let it be like this and for everyone like the author who want to explore and dig deep in such issues...let them find out and be content with their dramatic findings.

I Am SHOCKED..! I really Am.... i never KNEw that PAKI$Tan had All these PEOPLe with All these SEXUAL Problems Leave alone all the OTHER F...d UP problems From CRIME to POLITICAL Loot MAar..!

...GOD HELP U$ HELP OURSELVE$....!!!!!