Killing Iraqis Before Ramadan Starts

It is important to point out at this time when all the paid pundits and military strategists are giving appraisals of the situation in Iraq; the importance of air strikes and rendering the threat of Saddam to the ``free world``, that saddam and other (`scumbag`) dictators in the midle east and other regions are the creation of United States, and Great Britain.

Saddam was fully supported by the United States when he was gassing thousands of people in Northern Iraq, he was given billions in aid to start his projects to create `weapons of mass destruction`. U.S even supported Saddam after the Persian Gulf war, as he slaughtered thousands of people who rose up against his dictatorship. White House refused to cooperate with dissenting generals, and rebels who asked for American help, or access to ammunition that was confiscated in desert storm.

The war on Iraqi people has not ended in the last 7-8 years, more than 700,000 civilians have been killed as a result of UN sanctions on Iraq. The main difference is that the killing is more direct and you can watch it on CNN.

It is no coincidence that Clinton has chosen to launch the bombs on Iraqi people, at the hour of peril in his blowjob troubles with the Republicans. However, another major factor for the continuation of sanctions on Iraq has to do with the price of oil. Middle East politics has always been dictated by oil. That is why United Staes went to intervene in Kuwait on the first place. But now that the price of oil has been at a all time low for the last few years, the re-emergence of Iraqi oil in international markets will further lower the profit margins for Exxon and Mobil.

(And as you all probably know Exxon and Mobil are merging.)

bg already mentioned that their is going to be a rally at time square today (thurs, 12/17) at 5:00 pm. It will be great if people can post different activities/ rallies going on in their cities/neighborood.

Re: bg (6)

No, I don`t believe that the US/UK bombing of Iraq ``is good ole pacifying, peace-making.`` I do, however, believe that a scholar should be dealt as a scholar, and a ghunda like a ghunda. Saddam is not the former.

If Saddam`s ghunda-gardi was limited to Iraq and to his people, it`s fine. Saddam should then be a problem only for the Iraqis, and the US should not try to get rid of him through a war, in which innocent civilians die. But Saddam is a threat to others, outside Iraq, who are not ghundas like him. He should be dealt with sternly. It is unfortunate that innocent Iraqis have to pay a price for it. Poor Iraqis are screwed either way.

Yes, I do believe in shared responsibility. But responsibility, just as relationships, is a two-way street. ``Shared`` is the operating word.

The ``boys``? Well…thank you for the complement!

Umair,

Dead on, I say.

This guy ( Clinton ) will go to any lengths to save his skin.

BTW, I hope you can soon resolve the problem with Shahbaz`s account. I just read his posting on Homestead. He seems to be very bitter about it.

It may not be my place to ask you this but out of plain curiosity ( and you can certainly tell me to not interfere, since you are the editor ) what is going on?

Re: Godot

You must be responding to a different article. Please read carefully what we are saying. You just repeated yourself everything I have said. And who said anything about Islam vs. the West? It`s a crticism on the misguided domestic and foreign policies of our country. As citizens of the United States, we DO have the right to question the motives and the actions of our leaders, don`t we? And as fellow human beings, and oweing our debt to the suffering humanity, we CAN, at the very least, feel sympathy for the poor Iraqis cant` we? You say inflammatory? Blowing up human beings to distract people from lies about other stuff that involves the word ``blow`` is inflammatory my friend, not what we`ve said.

Rehan.

Re: Umair Khan & RR (2)

This is inflammatory in the name of religion. You guys put the illiterate mullahs and the demagogues to shame. The reason that the Iraqi people, and the rest of the Muslim world, are miserable is that they are ruled by scum bags. It is not the Satanic West led by the US that is responsible for their miseries. You`ve got to put your house in order, boys.

Re: RR

You have raised an interesting point. The answer is yes and no, the newly sworn in 106th Congress does need to start the impeachment proceedings again. There is a sun set provision in all congressional bills that prevents this from happening. If this congress can not pass the articles of impeachment before the next one is sworn in, January 22, 1999, this issue will be considered moot and it will die. It needs to sponsered again and the nightmare starts all over again !

Why do think Clinton said that the strikes will continue over the next few days ? His reason, and SecDef Cohen`s for attacking Iraq was to avail the window of opportunity before Ramadhan, but if this is an on going operation, it will over lap Ramadhan. Do you really think Clinton in order to save his political bacon will respect Ramadhan ?

A long time ago, in a post, I asked the rhetorical question; who has the ability to remove Saddam Hussein and why don`t they ? Clinton does not want to remove Saddam Hussein, because he owes him his presidency. How many times has the Iraqi problem come up when Clinton was facing domestic problems ? Why not attack last month when the problem was the same, why now and what was so different this time and why keep this charade going for seven years ?

I think the House should go ahead with the impeachment debate next week. Senate majority leader Trent Lott, in a New York Times piece, has already stated he does not support Clinton in this matter. Gerry Solomon, the House chairman of the powerful rules committee, a former marine himself, has said, on live CNN, that Clinton is willing to kill American soldiers to keep his job.
If this thing does go to the senate, I don`t think it will be so difficult to find the neccessary votes to impeach him in light of what has happened.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME SINCE VIETNAM THAT A MAJORITY OF CONGRESS IS NOT SUPPORTING, AND THE A MAJORITY OF THE SENATE IS QUESTIONING, THE PRESIDENT IN A FOREIGN POLICY DECISION. THIS MORE THAN THE CHARGES OF PERJURY, AGAINST CLINTON, CONSISTUTES AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE: HIGH CRIMES FOR RISKING A WAR NOT MANDATED BY CONGRESS.

We are living in an historic moment that historians will, many years from now, scarcely believe ever happened !

right on target, umair (no pun intended). it`s amazing how the villains are so transparent; i used to think hindi movie baddies lacked subtlety.

there`s a demo against the bombing in times square in nyc at 5pm dec 17, if anyone is interested.

Don`t forget the chayla Brits who seem to be clinging to past greatness by riding the US coattails on every issue. France condemned the attacks. Viva la difference! Does anyone consult the Ruskies anymore?

A very concise piece Khan Saheb. The first thing that came to mind when I read the news was: Here we go again! So, what`s new? Clinton`s in trouble domestically. His officials conveniently deliver a highly provocative report to the ``Security Council`` (I wonder whose security?)on the eve of the impeachment vote. A night before, Butler had his staff suddenly move out of Iraq, I`d say again, with impeccable timing.

The Congress postponed the impeachment vote as expected. The bombing campaign shall continue, says Cohen. So, no one knows if the current House will ever get to vote. And if not, will the new House have to start the impeachment proceedings from scratch? Probably. And that`ll give our beloved head of the government enough time to lobby enough members to avoid impeachment and settle for a censure. Game plan`s in place and the game pieces are being moved accordingly.

But does anybody care about the innocent people of Iraq who`ll have to cope with bombs exploding in their midst, and the prices of basic goods going through the roof, if not already there, all of it just before Ramadhan?

Little children, terrorized, must be hiding in the arms of their mothers, crying uncontrollably due to the loud thunders of the cruise missiles.

1.6 million human beings, made of the same flesh and blood as everyone else, have died in Iraq due to the sanctions alone in the past seven years, according to the UN statistics, and most of them children and elderly. What is their crime other than that they already suffer under a ruthless dictator who had the blessings of these same countries doing the bombing?

Babies are dying of malnutrition and for lack of ordinary medicine for flu and typhoid. Hunderds of thousands of parents` hopes and dreams are being shattered every day. All for what? Can anyone deny that these sanctions are just as catastrophic as the weapons of mass destruction themselves?

And after these bombings there`s a definite chance of further posptponment of sanctions, probably until Saddam is alive, and the stupid, stubborn dictator`s not dying anytime soon. So, the message to the Iraqi people from the world is: Too bad you had to live in the time when your fellow Arab and Muslim brothers had lost their balls and spines. Mostly due to the diseases that range from illiteracy and ignorance to corrupt dictatorships and the last ditch efforts by these dictators to maintain their hold on the riches of their countries.

Alas, O` people of Iraq, you are dying because the Middle East is cursed. And the curse is none other than the black gold called oil. And that curse will be with you for at least the next fifty years. May God be with you until then!