Discovering Ali Hasan

Re: slink

`BB, kabhi kabhi apnay mizaj kay khilaf Usool kee baat maan laina chaheay`. This article is almost getting off so perhaps I bump you somewhere in the Chowk soon.

regards

MAK

dear Faraz,

sorry for the late reply but i was out subduing all those heathens who don`t agree with me.if you would like to benefit five times over from my (wisely) held in check wisdom WATCH THIS SPACE....when you see the universe in that little dot right before that last `w`, only then will you be truly wise (and crosseyed) for those who stand permanently at a crossroads can best observe other people being run over.

re MAK,

are the foundations of your language,ideas and beliefs so weak that a bunch of `anglicised` women writing in lower case can shake them?
tsk tsk.you need to take iron tablets.

shandana

JamshedN`s idea of love & Life

`Can She Cook?`

`Can she clean?`

`Does she have a face?`

Good`nough! All right then, lets get married!

For one will do just as well as another.

One can always get another, like changing a flat tire with a spare one. Afterall, that`s why a car comes equipped with five, and a man has that same potential in life. (Allah Willing!)

JN introducing his wife to friends ...

`Meet/this is Sushila model#x no.x in my life thus far, she is taking care of my kids and home for right now.`

Find an automaton JN, your attitude towards finding a life partner borders from the casually interested/inclined to the callously misogynistic. Learn how to Love, and if you have forgotten how to, wonder at your own mardaangi, and personal shortcomings. Who says finding real love is easy?

If it were so easy (including replaceable), why would there be so many people with broken hearts. You cheapen the value of the human emotion of love with your comments. Who needs romance? Go to Desichick-Mart, or better yet, send sister & mommy to pick up the goods and make the selection.

OMAR1974 `Heart is a Spade`

Btw FerozK : I knew that would get your attention. :)

Waheed/Kafir,

Do you use these two names.

The same post is in another article also.

I don`t understand.

Re: Omar1974 # 75

Oh, yeah baby....that is the stuff dreams are made from!

The closest I came to heavan was when a few friends and I finished off a bottle of Hennesey`s Paradis, but Louis XIII is trully a religious experience.

God bless you my friend invoking its blessed name!

just to add one more line guys.........

when i say that THIS IS THE PERFECT GIRL I LIKE............am i not discriminating against the millions and millions of girls which i dont like?(ANY FEMINISTS......help me..)

take any girl and put your heart in your marriage guys .......whats the big deal yaar.......

Salaam people,

Well guys, when i said `LARKI JO KHANA ACHA BANATI HO, AUR(MERAY SEY)ZIADA BOLTI NA HO`, the point I wanted to make is that its not so difficult to work out a match with a marriage partner, as long as one is ready for adjustment....

Most of the girls are pretty much the same...nahin?( well, some girls are more beautiful than others....) a girl from a certain class would have typical social behaviour, values, opinions and aspirations.....a girl with a certain level of intelligence would have a certain personality( excuse me, feminists), a girl with a certain beauty level will have a certain attitude......the destinies of people are so very defined by their `surroundings` and their `ingredients`......ultimately....the `rational` choice that we make is a choice of the `right ingrdients` and not of an interesting person.....its not love guys...its a mathematical solution to a third order partial diffrential equation...........

the point is .....DOES IT REALLY MATTER to me that whether my girl knows how many kids did che guevara had? or what is an rs232 interface? or how many angles does a burmuda triangle have? and if it really DOES matter........then i am not looking for a person, but a match to my `specifications`...DOES NOT SEEM PRETTY MUCH HUMAN TO ME,...........KYUN?

lets not define our lives with a pen and paper, let beauty take its course, let our eyes be attracted by what we see....lets not define what we should see.........let life be open , fresh and surprising........take it as it comes......

WHAT IS MARRIAGE?

u damn two people to an imprisonment for ten years, and when u take them out after ten years .....they would be best friends......or atleast intimate partners......thats how a marriage works.....when u r not looking at other `options`/ there r no options.....any marriage works.......its a pretty crude way of saying it, but thats the way it comes to.

AND WHY MARRIAGE?

to raise a family.........ofcourse,....dont be ridiculous.......

any girl would do yaar, nahin?

mohabbat, love , amicalement is a beautiful feeling, let it take its toll, lets not try to define `mujhe kiss tarhan key bandey / bandee sey mohabbat honi chaheye` .........

`ISTARHAN BHI KABHI MOHABBAT HOTI HAI ........... ....CHAAD YAAR`

jamshedN

Due to the considerable length of the article and the lack of time in my part refrained me to read the entire article but looking at some responses it seems the article is worthwhile to be commented.

The main reason coming to this article is the `conspiracy` against the Chowk undermining the beauty of English language. I had noticed the lower case `conspiracy` early in the beginning but neglected considering trivial. Now as someone commented on this it is absolutely immoral to neglect the advise as some `Anglicized` women continue defying the rules of the language. We really need an inhibitory to defend the Chowk from the prodigious onset.

MAK

Re:SR

``Assuming a normal distribution in beauty it should follow that there are equal numbers of ugly as well as good-looking men and women. You assert that the good-looking women get hooked up with the ugly guys. Okay, we`ll accept that, but then the question arises: what happens to all the ugly women and all the good looking men? Since good looking men and ugly women are not hooking up, are we therefore to assume that the ranks of the unmarried are swelling up with the leftover ugly women and good looking men? ``

I didn`t say that handsome men are being doomed to bachelorhood. However I would dare to think that some ``ugly`` women would have trouble finding a mate. One thing that we need to remember that due to naturally higher male infant mortality rates (baby girls will eventually grow into child-bearing women and nature has made their natural defenses stronger as such), there is always a slightly higher number of women around then men. There are countries where men outnumber women ,but that is due more to female fetuses being aborted or to malnourishing the female children then to natural occurance.

So because there are more women in this world men have more ``selection`` and handsome men have no trouble finding a woman who is attracted to him. And since men do give more preference to looks than women, these guys will invariably be with good looking women.

Not-so-handsome men can also feel at liberty of finding a beautiful wife, because many women are insecure about being single forever , they are just happy to have a man in their lives. :)

My real question to what I wrote last time was: Why don`t I ever see handsome men with below average looking women? These women don`t necessarily have to be ``fat``, they may just not have fine features, or in desi world- have extremely dark skin or anything else that is presumed to be unattractive to a particular culture.

Regards,

Fozia

Fozia Reply #: 71

You wrote:
[``…over the world one will often see couples where the woman is beautiful and the guy is not even close in good looks. However I`ve very very very rarely seen the opposite- A
handsome man with an average or below average looking woman…``]

Your comment has really perplexed me. I`ve used my abacus to calculate it seven different ways, but no matter what formula I use, the math does not work out.

Assuming a normal distribution in beauty it should follow that there are equal numbers of ugly as well as good-looking men and women. You assert that the good-looking women get hooked up with the ugly guys. Okay, we`ll accept that, but then the question arises: what happens to all the ugly women and all the good looking men? Since good looking men and ugly women are not hooking up, are we therefore to assume that the ranks of the unmarried are swelling up with the leftover ugly women and good looking men?

Re: Shandana, BG, Zehra and all other font co-conspirators.

It has been discovered, following a thorough investigation that a conspiracy is indeed underway. The above named three women are actually one and the same person and he is a middle aged man, who is not really a man but an alien from outer space.

There have been several more message writers on Chowk lately who have come out of their lower-case closets and unveiled their true colors. It has been learnt that these people are all aliens who founded the cult popularized by the poet e. e. cummings, and they actually intend to use the Chowk to undermine the very foundations of language, indeed of all culture and civilization as we know it.

Arise ye wretched of the Chowk, and unite to end this plague.

jamshedN: ``When i started with my quest for that perfect girl (now woman), i felt that it was compusory that my relationship would have love, attraction, sexual need, platonic understanding, intimacy, common interests etc etc...........now, when i have asked my mama to find a girl for me after 12 years of pacing the sands of sahara` .........my specification are pretty much clear............LARKI JO KHAANA ACHA BANATI HO , AUR (MERAY SEY)ZIADA BOLTI NA HO. ``

is it only good food and a good listener you want from a life partner? is it difficult to find someone you love and respect, who has a brain, or is it not worth the wait?

omar1974: ``My advice to you though, you don`t really need a wife, just get a maid (hire some filipino or Sri Lankan in the gulf)``

hmmm...i assume you are thinking of a male maid, right? a pakistani would do just as well, no?

Feroz:

If we discover what makes any two people `tick`, then a cure for common cold, cancer, spinal cord injuries etc, would be just round the corner. Matters such as these (of the upper or lower extremities) should best be left a la Tennyson!

Tangent: heard a story why our Pinky babe fell for that Mustachiou. For reasons we all know, everyone treats Pinky with kid gloves. Once, she suffered a minor injury. Our feudal Moustache took charge and bundled her off in his car to the doctor. The rest, as the clicche goes, is history.


Tangent2: Take two tablets for the headache.

regards

Slink/Shandana : JamshedN ? does not deserve a true partner in life, given this mentality. I do not wish to see him create another martyr in yet another vagina (now i do remember that phrase from a chowk article, love it, whoever coined it)out of some actually sentient (this would be the real tragedy, if she were actually self aware enough to posess an independent consciousness of her own self worth and existence independant of her husband)Pakistani girl whom he would reduce to the status of a maid. Hopefully he just made these comments to provoke us, and really doesn`t mean them. But there are others who in real life want precisely what this gentleman articulated. Not someone to share the simple joys and pain of life with, the poetry of Ghalib, the jublibation of career success, the euphoria at buying the first BMW, etc. No, for him a woman w/o an education or a brain (preferably a village illiterate, abused as a child and made `passive`) will suffice just nicely, for she will not feel herself at least to be confined by his attitude, will accept all, and have few if any expectations in life of her own. Her happiness will consist of seeing him satisfied in life, as she waits upon him (JamshedN) hand and foot, and does the cooking, cleaning, and the rearing of his children. (I don`t mean to suggest he would want to cannabalize his own kids -grin-) She will lie quietly on her back, take no pleasure, and be satisfied in the thought that he husband is satiated. After that, he will just turn the lights out and roll over.

OMAR1974 `Painting a clear and vivid picture`

Ferozk : Just 2 words for u buddy.:)

Louis XIII V.V.S.O.P

$120/shot

Re: Zehra post # 68

Zehra, are you still hurting...? Do you require some medical attention...? :)

Re: Fozia post # 71

In response to your good looking woman - average looking man comment, I have seen many beautiful women who were dating just ordinary looking men. A friend of mine dated Niki Taylor and married her. His name was Matt Martinez; there was a story about them in some magazine a long time ago. (In case you`re wondering, Niki Taylor hails from Idaho). He was an average looking guy.

One of my dorm friends used to date cheerleaders and he was overweight, balding, crude, sexist and just plain disgusting. One of my fraternity brothers, considered as not too easy on the eyes, would date these incredible sex nymphs. I know friends who date plain looking women even though they could do so better with good looking ones.

It all boils down to a personal sense or level of confidence. One of the girls, who is a babe, told me that she was dating this average guy, because he would not cheat on her since he knew that he couldn`t do better than her. Another friend, though he dated some really good looking women, married the second girl he had sex with, because he didn`t think he could get it else where. Now, she is abusive to him, mocks him in front of others and he just takes it, because he thinks he can`t do better than her. It is all about confidence.

Concerning the RD story about the woman with cancer and the man who married her, it happens, but it is still an exception to the rule. I do not know what the term is from the female side of the equation, but we males refer to it, one of us suffering from, as being p * *sy whipped! Enough of this putting the woman on a pedestal and worshipping her. I have never chased a woman out of the door and apologised to her for making her mad. Some times I just want to offend them, because they are so full of themselves. In fact, I tell them that if they walk out of the door, I am changing the locks!

Re: JamshedN

You have the right idea...delegate responsibility to others!

Re: Temporal #66

That was interesting, but reading it gave me a headache! Were you trying to be subtle and suggest something to someone?

Re: Omar

Hey, no problem. We have all said things that we have regreted. I have had my share of those moments too. While in college, I was the author of some really fine faux pas. Like when a serious girlfriend of a friend over heard me say that he was having sex with another girl!

Though I have never been slapped, I did once kick a girl in the butt during a party, because she did not get out of my way fast enough!

Some day, we will have to share these stories over some brandy and cigars.