Why Clinton should visit Pakistan

Because had he not done so, a large number of members of the House on both sides would have made life miserable for this loafer whose trip would have been seen purely as a junket for his daughter and the mother-in-law. A sight seeing tour for himself and the family at the expense of the Public Purse (just think what would it have been if the President or Prime Minister of Pakistan had done this!). Not that it has not been criticised by some in the U.S. on this account, but those are muffled noises.

In both Chambers of the House there are enough members who care about Pakistan per se, as well as for the image of the United States treating an ally of half a century so shabbily.

These were factors relevant to the United States` own interest. Pakistan`s image one way or the other didn`t bother the U.S. The same way India`s won`t be, a few months or years down the road!

Sincerely.

#298

Dear Depilatory: You ask us to guess who you are, and when we do, you go nuts. What do you want?

Thank you, I am, as you know you are, quite comfortable at the night job.

The topic of the board is ``Why Clinton Should Visit Pakistan?`` Stick to it; don`t start taking its hair off.

Most sincerely yours.

Yamlaah,

Humour is not your forte buddy.Stick to your night job :)

Dear Depilatory(#296):

Seniormost among women?

Or, are you a queen, or the Prime Minister?

Yahmla Jat..

Do you know who Iam??I hold a seniormost position in England. If you want to know the XYZ of the report contact the education department in England.

Regards

I am taking a leisurely stroll through Chowk today. I first went to my first love ``He Had No Choice``, on which I lost my first intended target of ``Yahmla Jat affection``, the Syed Ha. I left a message for P. Musharraf, that nang-e-din, nang-e-watan, creature. And then came to this board.

Saw nair (#393). Does anybody, including himself, know from which dark crevice or cavity, (or fold) does this depilatory speak!

I suggest close this board. Pakistanis have done well not to address themselves to the Indians` continued distractions. Carry on your discussions amongst yourselves; ignore these ill-willing distractors.

Khuda Hafiz

Re Agnostics various posts:

I have just completed a study of Pakistani students in England.After five years of extensive research I have come to the conclusion that a total of 1321 students came from Pakistan to England for higher studies on scholarships.

Here is the breakup of the students.

1. 1200 Punjabis

2. 121 Mohajirs

There were no Baluchis or Sindhis.All the 121 Mohajirs are related to Pervez Musharaff.

Note: If anybody doubts the veracity of my report please contact the Ministry of Education in England.Please ask for my photo.

Regards.

#290

Had I not known any better, or, had you been my friend, I would have called you McStupid (Gold Medalist!). But you are neither.

Eversince I started reading your posts I have been convinced of the negation of the Peter Principle; in your case.

Cut it out man!

``Agnostic writes :

In my analysis of 40 years of history of Indian university students in the U.S. and Canada, I found only eight Indian Muslims who were beneficiaries of the Government`s scholarships or exchange programs as opposed to tens of thousands of Hindus with a negligible sprinkling of Sikhs. Further, either three fourths of Hindus are Brahmins in India, or they get preference in such a way that over 3/4ths of Hindu students were Brahmins. I visited 67 universities over a period of four and an half years.

My answer :

Agnostic is incredible.``

Yes, that he is. An ``Incredibly`` good researcher. Pay attention to him. Quit bumbling, and fumbling; some of you bumptious people are all in a lather.



I Know!!

In reply to Agnostic :

I`m supposed to be impressed that the State Department knows your name ? You want a photo as I find out who you are ? The more ``important`` or ``well-known`` it turns out to be, the more my face would reflect ``Aha ! I knew the Peter Principle is correct``.

You have made a claim about Government of India scholarships that is totally unsubstantiated. In my own graduating class, the all-India Number 1, the Institute Gold Medalist, one of two Rhodes scholars selected for that year (three different people) did not qualify for any such scholarship -- precisely because these scholarships do not exist.

You have ample opportunity to not be caught out in a lie, you have not taken it so far.

My last word on the subject.

-arun gupta

#388 MacGupta

I saw a black cat cross my path and my neighbour sneeze like crazy when I headed for the evening walk today. On my return I saw your name on top of your post.

Quit jumping up and down for joy. The Chowk has already done the changing since -- after a malfunction in my computer when I had to depend on a temporary net-generated profile -- the Chowk declined to accept my usual username so I had to invent one BUT left the usual one intact in the post.

You want to know my real name? And the ABC of the Report? Get in touch with the State Department. Take a self-photograph. I want to see the expression on your face. You already know my real name!

What counts is the information. Forget the `pseudonyms`. They are inconsequential. Remember the ``Cheap Detective``? ( A Peter Falk movie).

In reply to Agnostic :

Time to change your pseudonym. The only asset one has on forums like this is one`s credibility -- are readers willing to consider seriously what one says.

Yours just evaporated to zero.

-arun gupta

dragon slayer#285:

after copying and pasting from FAS, kindly pay attention to the sources of thier information, mentioned at the bottom.

also take the trouble to look up the brilliant achievements of the isi in india and elsewhere and the sources of that information.

i wrote to john pike asking him that while the nefarious activities of both isi and raw were mentioned in great detail, why was the cia dealt with in a very benign manner? he replied with the statement - `we will add more info about cia in due course!`.

Sigh ...Chowk has lost its fizz. Gymnosophist has mellowed quite a bit and Hamidm has practically disappeared.

Ref Agnostic on Indian scholarships for study abroad:

As one who actually attempted to get one, I can say with some first-hand knowledge that the only scholarships were those offered on a governmental basis. Thus, you had the Fulbright awards, British Council scholarships, the Rhodes Scholarship offered by Oxford, scholarships to study in Russia or one of its satellites, etc. I even remember a scholarship advertised for study in Japan.

Not one of these was paid for by the Government of India. They were offered by the host countries.

There probably was some educational assistance offered by the US, again at a government-to-government level, that enabled the Indian government to establish IIT-Kanpur and send several of its newly-recruited faculty for study in the US. These of course would be conditional in that the awardee would have to return to India and serve in a teaching institution.

If you spend some time in an IIT (which are famous for exporting entire graduating classes to the US, Canada and the UK), you would know that the students apply and obtain graduate assistantships from universities abroad and that the government has nothing to do with this. In fact, I knew of an IIT-Bombay guy who was surprised to receive an offer of assistantship from Rice University in Houston when, for family reasons, he could not go abroad and had not applied to any overseas university. Upon inquiry, he was told by Rice that Rice had contacted the Dean and asked for the names of the top students and selected those recommended by the Dean. Since this guy was the #1 ranked student (winning the President`s Gold Medal), his name was on the top of the list and Rice wanted to have him.

Agnostic, you will have more credibility if you would tell us exactly what scholarships are offered by the Govt of India for study abroad. You see, some of us are willing to believe that there is a conspiracy to keep these scholarships for the Hindi belt and we would like some ammunition when we yell and scream at the Central Government.

Sattyavadi #252

``India and RAW are on the attack again. Now the Hindu strategy is to commit simultaneous attacks on civilian`s as at Lahore, Kasur, and Rawalpindi. So, this time RAW`s strategy is to show as if the bombings [were] a result of verdict against Mr. Nawaz Sharif. But,

nobody is fooled in Pakistan. The odiferous ... RAW can be detected miles away.

[//]Pakistan will have to catch and destroy the estimated 100,000 Indian RAW agents that India has successfully implanted on Pakistani soil.[ ] See, http://sun00781.dn.net/irp/world/india/raw/index.html

ISI has totally failed in its responsibility. The organization needs to be reorganized as three agencies. One for internal security, second for foreign operations, and the third to target India. India will have to be defeated through proactive counter operations

inside India. www.dawn.com



25 injured as bombs rock Lahore, Rawalpindi and Kasur:

ISLAMABAD, April 7: A powerful bomb blast at a bus station in Lahore today injured at least 15 people, hours after another blast in nearby Rawalpindi wounded four people, police said. The Lahore explosion injured mostly commuters crowded around a bus stand at the city`s main bus terminal, as well as two police guarding the area, a senior police official said. At least three of the wounded were rushed to hospital with serious injuries, he added. Earlier, four people were hurt in a bomb explosion outside a hotel in the city of Rawalpindi. No group has claimed responsibility for the blasts, which come a day after ex-prime minister Nawaz Sharif was sentenced to life imprisonment by an anti-terrorism court.

Six persons were injured seriously in a bomb blast in Kasur on Friday night near Steel Garden. According to details, a passenger

Wagon No.6261-LXL was coming from Lahore, when it reached at a petrol pump near Steel Garden Chowk suddenly a bomb, placed in the wagon exploded as a result of which the wagon conductor and five passengers received serious injuries who were

rushed to DHQ hospital Kasur. The district administration and high ups of police departmet after hearing the tragic news reached the site of blast and supervised the rescue and relief work.

(AFP)(Updated @ 03:00 PST, Saturday)``