Open Letter to General Musharraf
Ahmad Faruqui May 14, 2000
#1 Posted by bahmad on May 14, 2000 10:36:13 pm
A welll written letter. A simple yet penetrating critique of ``authoritarianism`` in Pakistan. I commend the author for his timely effort.
Sincerely, Bilal Ahmad
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#2 Posted by sigalph235 on May 15, 2000 12:51:23 am
Dr Faruqui too makes the typical mistake common of the more uneducated folk when he says, in desperation, I believe, ``ignominious loss of East Pakistan to India.``
Hello, professor? East Pakistan was lost not to India but to the majority of Pakistan, i.e. the Bengalis. You don`t see your beloved ``East Pakistan`` as part of India, do you? (But sure enough, you see part of Kashmir to be so!).
The more I look at these well-meaning nonsense, the more I am convinced that the Pakistan should become one again with the verdict of the 1970 elections honoured to the fullest: that is, we Bengalis, with the majority, rule the roost. Praise the Lord!
Hello, professor? East Pakistan was lost not to India but to the majority of Pakistan, i.e. the Bengalis. You don`t see your beloved ``East Pakistan`` as part of India, do you? (But sure enough, you see part of Kashmir to be so!).
The more I look at these well-meaning nonsense, the more I am convinced that the Pakistan should become one again with the verdict of the 1970 elections honoured to the fullest: that is, we Bengalis, with the majority, rule the roost. Praise the Lord!
#3 Posted by Thakur on May 15, 2000 3:04:57 am
Mr. Farooqi is in a long list of expatriates, who
are sitting in CA, lending their brain and expertise to the west, while consider it their divine right to criticise everything that moves in Pakistan. He drones on and on, about the military, while failing to aknowledge once, that the only period in Pakistan`s 53 year history when we were poised to leave behined Korea in the dust economically, was under the leadership of a *gasp * military guy Gen. Ayub Khan. It was amusing to see him tap dance all around the issue and avoid it, like a mine field.
Some economist, eh ?. Selective memory, serves him well, to expedite his hateful agenda against the Pakistan military. People like our dear Mr. Farooqi couldn`t hack it, one hour on the border with India, with the incessant incoming shells and artillery fire from the Hindus. Who is protecting the villages of Sialkot, when Indians shell the village and reduce the houses to `malba` ?. Who is driving back the Indians, when they cross the border and try to capture our `chowkis` ?.
I`ll tell you who...the jawans of the Pakistan Army, thats who. Where is Mr. Farooqi ?. Well, he is in CA, minting $$`s for himself and oh yeah, slinging mudballs at whoever is trying to straighten out the politicians and the bureacracy at the time.
The best Mr. Farooqi and his ilk could do, if they can`t pull up their sleeves and get down to nation building themselves, for whatever reasons, it to butt out. The people of Pakistan are happy at how the military is handling things by all accounts and for the first time somebody is making the rich and powerful accountable for their misdeeds.
All the power to Gen. Musharaf and his brave jawans, for whom no amount of praise would be enough. The least we can do, is wish them well and pray for them to succeed. The Farooqi`s of this world should hit the curb.
Thakur
are sitting in CA, lending their brain and expertise to the west, while consider it their divine right to criticise everything that moves in Pakistan. He drones on and on, about the military, while failing to aknowledge once, that the only period in Pakistan`s 53 year history when we were poised to leave behined Korea in the dust economically, was under the leadership of a *gasp * military guy Gen. Ayub Khan. It was amusing to see him tap dance all around the issue and avoid it, like a mine field.
Some economist, eh ?. Selective memory, serves him well, to expedite his hateful agenda against the Pakistan military. People like our dear Mr. Farooqi couldn`t hack it, one hour on the border with India, with the incessant incoming shells and artillery fire from the Hindus. Who is protecting the villages of Sialkot, when Indians shell the village and reduce the houses to `malba` ?. Who is driving back the Indians, when they cross the border and try to capture our `chowkis` ?.
I`ll tell you who...the jawans of the Pakistan Army, thats who. Where is Mr. Farooqi ?. Well, he is in CA, minting $$`s for himself and oh yeah, slinging mudballs at whoever is trying to straighten out the politicians and the bureacracy at the time.
The best Mr. Farooqi and his ilk could do, if they can`t pull up their sleeves and get down to nation building themselves, for whatever reasons, it to butt out. The people of Pakistan are happy at how the military is handling things by all accounts and for the first time somebody is making the rich and powerful accountable for their misdeeds.
All the power to Gen. Musharaf and his brave jawans, for whom no amount of praise would be enough. The least we can do, is wish them well and pray for them to succeed. The Farooqi`s of this world should hit the curb.
Thakur
#4 Posted by zeejah on May 15, 2000 3:04:57 am
in a nutshell... the army is the cross we pakistanis have to bear....
once u r `elevated` to wear a uniform, and learn how to march in step the heavens of wisdom, honesty and patriotism open on you!
for the rest of us pakistanis, we r ignorant, dishonest and unpatriotic...
we all know that!
Glory be to God!
once u r `elevated` to wear a uniform, and learn how to march in step the heavens of wisdom, honesty and patriotism open on you!
for the rest of us pakistanis, we r ignorant, dishonest and unpatriotic...
we all know that!
Glory be to God!
#5 Posted by ferozk on May 15, 2000 5:58:35 am
Ahmad Faruqui, sir, please step outside the world of your economic models for a minute and take a trip into reality. If you think the present situation in Pakistan is bad, please just wait and it will get a lot more awful before it improves. Instead of penning open letters, which do not matter, you should have expended your time and enegry in convincing your local congressional delegation to thank Bill Clinton for making South Asia more dangerous after his vist.
You should have writen an open letter to the Pakistani Embassy, on Massachusetts Aveune, to the Pakistani diplomats urging them to canvass the Pakistanis with political connections to both DNC and RNC instead of shunning them. You could have writen to the Pakistani Foreign Office asking them by why they are determined to snub the European Community`s efforts, behind the doors, to revive political contacts with Islamabad.
I hope this does not offend you, but do you honestly think that Nawaz Sharif or Benazir Bhutto, the democratically elected leaders of Pakistan, were really accountable to the Pakistani people? Do think that it was Nawaz Sharif`s sense of democratic accountibility, which emboldened him to freeze the FCAs of Pakistani expats without the ``concent of the governed?`` Do you think any of the so-called political leaders (thieves) who robbed, raped, sodomized and brutalized Pakistan did so in the name of accountibility?
Accountability to whom and by whom?
To the Pakistanis expats living in the United States or to the poor of Pakistan who are the ultimate victims of our ``democratic leaders`` policies of personal agrandizements? Do we, the people of Pakistan, believe in the myth of the man on the horse back? No, we do not! Are we looking for a leader to rescue us from the follies of own misquided wisdom of chosing our own tormentors; yes, we are. To us it does not matter if the whip changes hands, because we will still feel the lash on our backs, but unlike you, we can not afford the luxury of noble political wishful thinking on political rights, because we are slowly starving to death and our immediate concern is the ever dimishing future of our children, not the right to chose our leaders!
Please, sir, next time you wish to judge our political backwardness, please do it with a little conscience and humility in the knowledge that we have suffered and though we blame no one, but our own misfortunes, we still would like to be judged as you would would like to be judged yourself; with decency, fairness, and above all, with an understanding of our plight. We do not ask for anything more, just our fair share of justice with malice towards none, and with charity for all.
Thank You.
You should have writen an open letter to the Pakistani Embassy, on Massachusetts Aveune, to the Pakistani diplomats urging them to canvass the Pakistanis with political connections to both DNC and RNC instead of shunning them. You could have writen to the Pakistani Foreign Office asking them by why they are determined to snub the European Community`s efforts, behind the doors, to revive political contacts with Islamabad.
I hope this does not offend you, but do you honestly think that Nawaz Sharif or Benazir Bhutto, the democratically elected leaders of Pakistan, were really accountable to the Pakistani people? Do think that it was Nawaz Sharif`s sense of democratic accountibility, which emboldened him to freeze the FCAs of Pakistani expats without the ``concent of the governed?`` Do you think any of the so-called political leaders (thieves) who robbed, raped, sodomized and brutalized Pakistan did so in the name of accountibility?
Accountability to whom and by whom?
To the Pakistanis expats living in the United States or to the poor of Pakistan who are the ultimate victims of our ``democratic leaders`` policies of personal agrandizements? Do we, the people of Pakistan, believe in the myth of the man on the horse back? No, we do not! Are we looking for a leader to rescue us from the follies of own misquided wisdom of chosing our own tormentors; yes, we are. To us it does not matter if the whip changes hands, because we will still feel the lash on our backs, but unlike you, we can not afford the luxury of noble political wishful thinking on political rights, because we are slowly starving to death and our immediate concern is the ever dimishing future of our children, not the right to chose our leaders!
Please, sir, next time you wish to judge our political backwardness, please do it with a little conscience and humility in the knowledge that we have suffered and though we blame no one, but our own misfortunes, we still would like to be judged as you would would like to be judged yourself; with decency, fairness, and above all, with an understanding of our plight. We do not ask for anything more, just our fair share of justice with malice towards none, and with charity for all.
Thank You.
#6 Posted by PM on May 15, 2000 9:52:34 am
``Superficially, one might argue that Pakistan`s economic performance has been higher during periods of military rule than during periods of civilian rule. But that overlooks the fact that recurring bouts of military rule have crippled civilian institutions, and ravaged the combat effectiveness of the military.``
Why is it superficial to argue so? Is it really established fact that ``recurring bouts of military rule have crippled civil institutions``? Might not these ``bouts`` have saved those institutions from (gulp!) CIVILIAN (self-)destruction? Why is it a given that the civil institutions would, given time, iron out their problems (when all indications were to the contrary)?? Cheery optimism when it suits our pet theses, eh?
``Ravaged the comabt effectiveness of the military?``... What percentage of the forces are deployed internally? Does this necessarily compromise ``comabt effectivness``, keeping in mind that there will always be -- what`s the Economics term? -- trade-offs?
``Neither is [military rule] consistent with the constitution of the republic.``
Now we *are * talking about that same constitution thingy that was being mangled by the last civilian (de facto) dictator, aren`t we?
Zeejah (#4):
``for the rest of us pakistanis, we r ignorant, dishonest and unpatriotic... ``
When ``we`` get our seat in parliament, YES. Well, mostly :) ... well... maybe not ignorant... `cept maybe of duty, integrity, common good, etc.
regards,
Why is it superficial to argue so? Is it really established fact that ``recurring bouts of military rule have crippled civil institutions``? Might not these ``bouts`` have saved those institutions from (gulp!) CIVILIAN (self-)destruction? Why is it a given that the civil institutions would, given time, iron out their problems (when all indications were to the contrary)?? Cheery optimism when it suits our pet theses, eh?
``Ravaged the comabt effectiveness of the military?``... What percentage of the forces are deployed internally? Does this necessarily compromise ``comabt effectivness``, keeping in mind that there will always be -- what`s the Economics term? -- trade-offs?
``Neither is [military rule] consistent with the constitution of the republic.``
Now we *are * talking about that same constitution thingy that was being mangled by the last civilian (de facto) dictator, aren`t we?
Zeejah (#4):
``for the rest of us pakistanis, we r ignorant, dishonest and unpatriotic... ``
When ``we`` get our seat in parliament, YES. Well, mostly :) ... well... maybe not ignorant... `cept maybe of duty, integrity, common good, etc.
regards,
#7 Posted by PM on May 15, 2000 9:52:34 am
(to echo sigalph235)
Why does the author repeatedly blame the army for ``handing East Pakistan over to India``? Are his beloved (W.Pakistani) civilian politicians absolved from all blame of alienating the Bengalis and pushing them to secession, through their bigoted and racist stances when democracy was finally tested?
Why does the author repeatedly blame the army for ``handing East Pakistan over to India``? Are his beloved (W.Pakistani) civilian politicians absolved from all blame of alienating the Bengalis and pushing them to secession, through their bigoted and racist stances when democracy was finally tested?
#8 Posted by krashid on May 15, 2000 9:52:34 am
Rambling of a child is better than this article.
This article only reflects the anti Establishment propaganda and is very superficial.
History of Pakistan, should be read on the one hand with the weak position of Pakistan to start with and wrong attitude of our ruling elite. It also involves epic struggle by people`s of Pakistan for their rights. And ceding of East Pakistan is a fight of Bengalis for their rights.
The rambling is much more on defense needs of Pakistan.
Did the writer at any point mentioned which border of Pakistan is unsafe. Which country Pakistan fought three times and which country has increased its budget more than the total budget of Pakistan army.
Did the writer realized that it is the people in Pakistan who want to live independently and not under India`s hegemony. And California does not belong to Pakistan.
So instead of rambling, present some facts and figures regarding Pakistan`s defense needs vis-a-vis India.
As far as the need of political process, it is obvious. But political process means taking care of all sections of society. Not that unilateral agenda for implementing a particular version and killing rest of people who do not budge. It is the same as Military rule to which you are so abhorrent.
At least this military Government has more sense than people who are in politics who have nothing else to do and is an easy way to hoard money.
If looters of a person is a robber, he is criminal. What is the looter of the wealth of whole people.
As far as democracy is concerned. It should be democracy. i.e Government of ythe people, for the people and by the people. For this it is important to have economic strength to people. Otherwise people who had the power to rob banks, attack supreme court and bend the press to their will, were in more strong position to elect themselves, through any means.
Your rambling was rambling because you failed to provide any solution.
This article only reflects the anti Establishment propaganda and is very superficial.
History of Pakistan, should be read on the one hand with the weak position of Pakistan to start with and wrong attitude of our ruling elite. It also involves epic struggle by people`s of Pakistan for their rights. And ceding of East Pakistan is a fight of Bengalis for their rights.
The rambling is much more on defense needs of Pakistan.
Did the writer at any point mentioned which border of Pakistan is unsafe. Which country Pakistan fought three times and which country has increased its budget more than the total budget of Pakistan army.
Did the writer realized that it is the people in Pakistan who want to live independently and not under India`s hegemony. And California does not belong to Pakistan.
So instead of rambling, present some facts and figures regarding Pakistan`s defense needs vis-a-vis India.
As far as the need of political process, it is obvious. But political process means taking care of all sections of society. Not that unilateral agenda for implementing a particular version and killing rest of people who do not budge. It is the same as Military rule to which you are so abhorrent.
At least this military Government has more sense than people who are in politics who have nothing else to do and is an easy way to hoard money.
If looters of a person is a robber, he is criminal. What is the looter of the wealth of whole people.
As far as democracy is concerned. It should be democracy. i.e Government of ythe people, for the people and by the people. For this it is important to have economic strength to people. Otherwise people who had the power to rob banks, attack supreme court and bend the press to their will, were in more strong position to elect themselves, through any means.
Your rambling was rambling because you failed to provide any solution.
#9 Posted by jay on May 15, 2000 9:52:34 am
Ahmed,
You should have repeated the following sentence, that would have been the most powerful article ever to grace chowk.
``One wonders how Pakistan can ask for the right of self-determination for Kashmiris, when it does not itself give its own citizens the right to rule themselves.``
This sums up the duplicity of the educated elites, and that is the fundamental problem of pakistan.
For the jihadist, it is simple and clear, it is jihad, taking the kashmiris along with the paksitanis on the road to kilafait, so well described in the book. No interest charges, honour killing, blasphemy laws, madrasas, all are falling into place.
It is the educated, the chowk walas who are confused, democracy, military rule, open letter to CE. Dont waste time, join the jihadist, send money from the US, read the reports in the front pages of dawn and jung. Read of the death, minister died in bomb blast today, rejoice in what your money has delivered, at your door step, every day, day after day, death to kafirs.
Ahmed send an open letter to dawn editor, if you are sick of the news of death in Kashmir. iF YOU ARE NOT SICK OF IT, SUPPORT THE CE, HE WILL DELIVER MORE OF IT.
You should have repeated the following sentence, that would have been the most powerful article ever to grace chowk.
``One wonders how Pakistan can ask for the right of self-determination for Kashmiris, when it does not itself give its own citizens the right to rule themselves.``
This sums up the duplicity of the educated elites, and that is the fundamental problem of pakistan.
For the jihadist, it is simple and clear, it is jihad, taking the kashmiris along with the paksitanis on the road to kilafait, so well described in the book. No interest charges, honour killing, blasphemy laws, madrasas, all are falling into place.
It is the educated, the chowk walas who are confused, democracy, military rule, open letter to CE. Dont waste time, join the jihadist, send money from the US, read the reports in the front pages of dawn and jung. Read of the death, minister died in bomb blast today, rejoice in what your money has delivered, at your door step, every day, day after day, death to kafirs.
Ahmed send an open letter to dawn editor, if you are sick of the news of death in Kashmir. iF YOU ARE NOT SICK OF IT, SUPPORT THE CE, HE WILL DELIVER MORE OF IT.
#10 Posted by fairdinkum on May 15, 2000 9:52:34 am
Re:Thakur #3
Mr. Farooqi is making an honest living, which is more than what we can say about your Generals in Islamabad. It is the job of military forces of any country to defend the borders... Why do you consider it an ``ahsan`` of Pak army on us civilians? We pay your army officers handsomely for their less than ordinary performances (Bangladesh, Siachin, Kargil…the list goes on and on)….
Just look at Gen. Musharraf’s property portfolio! It’s all been paid for by civilians, and perhaps partly by the foreign exchange sent by expatriates like Mr. Farooqi.
Mr. Farooqi is making an honest living, which is more than what we can say about your Generals in Islamabad. It is the job of military forces of any country to defend the borders... Why do you consider it an ``ahsan`` of Pak army on us civilians? We pay your army officers handsomely for their less than ordinary performances (Bangladesh, Siachin, Kargil…the list goes on and on)….
Just look at Gen. Musharraf’s property portfolio! It’s all been paid for by civilians, and perhaps partly by the foreign exchange sent by expatriates like Mr. Farooqi.
#11 Posted by temporal on May 15, 2000 10:39:35 am
Seems like this is open season for open letters to Pirsahivb of Militaryshareef.
Here is another one:
An open letter to Gen Musharraf in the wake of Supreme Court judgment By Kalem Omar
at http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/may2000-daily/15-05-2000/main/main6.htm
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Here is another one:
An open letter to Gen Musharraf in the wake of Supreme Court judgment By Kalem Omar
at http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/may2000-daily/15-05-2000/main/main6.htm
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#12 Posted by temporal on May 15, 2000 10:47:42 am
ANOTHER OPEN LETTER:
My dear PirSahib of Militaryshareef:
Will keep this brief.
Put Kashmir in cold storage for the next 50 years.
Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.
Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.
regards
temporal
My dear PirSahib of Militaryshareef:
Will keep this brief.
Put Kashmir in cold storage for the next 50 years.
Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.
Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan. Think Pakistan.
regards
temporal
#13 Posted by Critiq on May 15, 2000 12:30:19 pm
Ferozk #5
`` Do we, the people of Pakistan, believe in the myth of the man on the horse back? No, we do not! Are we looking for a leader to rescue us from the follies of own misquided wisdom of chosing our own tormentors; ``
!!!!??? !!! Am I missing something here ???
Feroze, yours and a few other’s posts indicate that Pakistani`s in general ARE looking for some miraculous savior. It is in line with this thinking that you expect a single person to be all things to all people. When a leader cannot deliver this impossible task it adds to the disappointment & frustration, so much so that that not only do you start screaming for his job but even his imprisonment and even death! If there is a modern day sword of Damocles it must hang on top of the Prime Minister OR the Martial Law administrator of Pakistan.
The dependence on others to do their job is so great, you even expect a simple open letter to address a dozen different things! What can be the harm in the Prof. writing an open letter and expressing himself? Why should it carry the burden of your agenda? Why can`t you write your own letters and carry your own movement?
The problem with too many Pakistanis is they expect someone else to do their work and somehow solve (all)their problems for them. This is true from wanting Non-Residents to send money & run the ministries to getting the US to set the foreign policy.
As long as this attitude exists, you will not get a savior on horseback but one in a battle tank.
Best of Luck!
`` Do we, the people of Pakistan, believe in the myth of the man on the horse back? No, we do not! Are we looking for a leader to rescue us from the follies of own misquided wisdom of chosing our own tormentors; ``
!!!!??? !!! Am I missing something here ???
Feroze, yours and a few other’s posts indicate that Pakistani`s in general ARE looking for some miraculous savior. It is in line with this thinking that you expect a single person to be all things to all people. When a leader cannot deliver this impossible task it adds to the disappointment & frustration, so much so that that not only do you start screaming for his job but even his imprisonment and even death! If there is a modern day sword of Damocles it must hang on top of the Prime Minister OR the Martial Law administrator of Pakistan.
The dependence on others to do their job is so great, you even expect a simple open letter to address a dozen different things! What can be the harm in the Prof. writing an open letter and expressing himself? Why should it carry the burden of your agenda? Why can`t you write your own letters and carry your own movement?
The problem with too many Pakistanis is they expect someone else to do their work and somehow solve (all)their problems for them. This is true from wanting Non-Residents to send money & run the ministries to getting the US to set the foreign policy.
As long as this attitude exists, you will not get a savior on horseback but one in a battle tank.
Best of Luck!
#14 Posted by Vicky on May 15, 2000 12:30:19 pm
Ferozk #5
`` Do we, the people of Pakistan, believe in the myth of the man on the horse back? No, we do not! Are we looking for a leader to rescue us from the follies of own misquided wisdom of chosing our own tormentors; ``
!!!!??? !!! Am I missing something here ???
Feroze, yours and a few other’s posts indicate that Pakistani`s in general ARE looking for some miraculous savior. It is in line with this thinking that you expect a single person to be all things to all people. When a leader cannot deliver this impossible task it adds to the disappointment & frustration, so much so that that not only do you start screaming for his job but even his imprisonment and even death! If there is a modern day sword of Damocles it must hang on top of the Prime Minister OR the Martial Law administrator of Pakistan.
The dependence on others to do their job is so great, you even expect a simple open letter to address a dozen different things! What can be the harm in the Prof. writing an open letter and expressing himself? Why should it carry the burden of your agenda? Why can`t you write your own letters and carry your own movement?
The problem with too many Pakistanis is they expect someone else to do their work and somehow solve (all)their problems for them. This is true from wanting Non-Residents to send money & run the ministries to getting the US to set the foreign policy.
As long as this attitude exists, you will not get a savior on horseback but one in a battle tank.
Best of Luck!
`` Do we, the people of Pakistan, believe in the myth of the man on the horse back? No, we do not! Are we looking for a leader to rescue us from the follies of own misquided wisdom of chosing our own tormentors; ``
!!!!??? !!! Am I missing something here ???
Feroze, yours and a few other’s posts indicate that Pakistani`s in general ARE looking for some miraculous savior. It is in line with this thinking that you expect a single person to be all things to all people. When a leader cannot deliver this impossible task it adds to the disappointment & frustration, so much so that that not only do you start screaming for his job but even his imprisonment and even death! If there is a modern day sword of Damocles it must hang on top of the Prime Minister OR the Martial Law administrator of Pakistan.
The dependence on others to do their job is so great, you even expect a simple open letter to address a dozen different things! What can be the harm in the Prof. writing an open letter and expressing himself? Why should it carry the burden of your agenda? Why can`t you write your own letters and carry your own movement?
The problem with too many Pakistanis is they expect someone else to do their work and somehow solve (all)their problems for them. This is true from wanting Non-Residents to send money & run the ministries to getting the US to set the foreign policy.
As long as this attitude exists, you will not get a savior on horseback but one in a battle tank.
Best of Luck!
#15 Posted by Umairr on May 15, 2000 3:14:37 pm
sigalph235 #2: ``Hello, professor? East Pakistan was lost not to India but to the majority of Pakistan, i.e. the Bengalis. You don`t see your beloved ``East Pakistan`` as part of India, do you?``
This is a very valid comment. I have already explained where I stand on the creation of Bangladesh. I was wondering if you could throw some light on the following points:
What do the Bangladeshis consider the main cause of the creation of Bangladesh? How does the average Bengali view the average Pakistani now? How does the average Bengali view India? Do the Bengalis feel that India supported them in 1971, becuase it was genuinely intersted in stopping Pakistan`s human rights violations in E. Pakistan, or do they feel India`s main aim was to split Pakistan, i.e. it was not concerned about the Bengalis one way or the other? What is the view of the average Bengali regarding the independence of Pakistan (both E. and W.) in 1947? How is W. Pakistan portrayed in Bangladesh`s history books? What is the view of the average Bengali about the struggle of the Kashmiris for self-determination? Do they consider the Kashmiri struggle similar to the struggle for Bangladesh?
Your remarks will be greatly appreciated.
This is a very valid comment. I have already explained where I stand on the creation of Bangladesh. I was wondering if you could throw some light on the following points:
What do the Bangladeshis consider the main cause of the creation of Bangladesh? How does the average Bengali view the average Pakistani now? How does the average Bengali view India? Do the Bengalis feel that India supported them in 1971, becuase it was genuinely intersted in stopping Pakistan`s human rights violations in E. Pakistan, or do they feel India`s main aim was to split Pakistan, i.e. it was not concerned about the Bengalis one way or the other? What is the view of the average Bengali regarding the independence of Pakistan (both E. and W.) in 1947? How is W. Pakistan portrayed in Bangladesh`s history books? What is the view of the average Bengali about the struggle of the Kashmiris for self-determination? Do they consider the Kashmiri struggle similar to the struggle for Bangladesh?
Your remarks will be greatly appreciated.
#16 Posted by bahmad on May 15, 2000 5:18:38 pm
In response to sigalph (Reply # 2)
Dear Sigalph:
Your statement: ``Hello, professor? East Pakistan was lost not to India but to the majority of Pakistan, i.e. the Bengalis.``
Comment: I agree, East Pakistan was not lost to India. The fall of East Pakistan is an unfortunate part of Pakistani history. Let us hope that we learn from our past follies and find ways to strengthen our national solidarity.
As a Pakistani, I wish Bangladesh peace and prosperity.
Sincerely, Bilal Ahmad
Dear Sigalph:
Your statement: ``Hello, professor? East Pakistan was lost not to India but to the majority of Pakistan, i.e. the Bengalis.``
Comment: I agree, East Pakistan was not lost to India. The fall of East Pakistan is an unfortunate part of Pakistani history. Let us hope that we learn from our past follies and find ways to strengthen our national solidarity.
As a Pakistani, I wish Bangladesh peace and prosperity.
Sincerely, Bilal Ahmad
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