Oi, Kinniyaan Memaan Keetiyan Ne.

wow.....it was fun...and yet meaningfull

loved it, wish I could hear it read out loud in a dark cafe-bookshop while sipping chai...

WELL DONE!! Congratulations!! very well written a true picture of the PAKI male! yr writing reminds me of many males in my vicinity!! this is all the more true about the Pakistani men who are not only dirty vulgar and sex starved but desperate to prove that they are sexual athletes of olympic standards.you have painted a true and exact picture of an average Pakistani who has had the good fortune to migrate to some foreign landf and then get on with the business of defaming his country and his culture and his religion. Shabas Keep up the good work you do have talent and i say that as an experienced writer.good luck! and keep it it up!!

a fun fun thing to read :)

shandana

Omarphoenix:#12

Thanks for asking.

Farangi----The word was originally `Frenchie` used by the British to denigrate the French people.It entered the arabie lexicon as //faranji or //farangi depending upon egytian or non-egyptian usage(because of greek //gamma influence on egypt).In Indian-farsi it was retained as //frangi to append it with the farsi //kush .

What the Britishers never realised that this term would finally be found more apt about themselves.Nowadays,the word means any undesirable alien influence.The closest description is in the phrase-title of 60s best-seller //The Ugly American .

Kush//killer ,//exterminator //remover eliminator

//mincer etc etc etc.

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It has nothing whatsoever to do with /xenophobia .

``munn ki dunya mein naa paaya mein nay afrangi ka raaj

munn ki dunyaa mein naa deikhay mein nay shaikh o burhamun``

A L L A M A IQBAL

tr:In realm of heart,farangi-rule is what I never found

and never did I encounter the brahmun,sheikh around.

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wassalaam.

I really should visit the chowk more often ....... I might have missed this ``dang`` masterpiece.....Philosophic, profound and putrid ... I have always maintained that you cannot say anything meanigful without a pinch of profanity.

I thought this was great, I like the raw, no BS tone. Inspired by East is East, possibly?

Dear Ya`ll

Temporal

Cheers t. I`m quiet amazed at the fact that you liked the poem, unless you were using the alternative meanings of the words you typed. ;-)

Taimur Malik

Thanks. Hmm, as for the second bit I`ll just say that I know a friend whose pops was like that. You can guess if that is a lie ;-))) (a smiling man who eats too many doughnuts). Then again I may just be trying to give you a sleepless night.

Farangi Kush

I know where you`re coming from. What does Kush mean anyway? I`m just curious. Maybe my Urdu or Punjabi isn`t all that great. Is it Kush like Kush Kush Hota Hai or is it something else. I would appreciate if you`d let me know. Wasaalam.

`Talent` Scout.

Thanks for the message. So you`ve witnessed that breed also.

Zehra Rizvi

Hey Zehra, cheers first of all and what does `This issue is becoming circular mean.` U C I`m a bit thick. I`ve got a single neurone and it`s shared amongst my 7 gold fishes that swim within my cerebral fluid. Ta.

Layman and Yasser (YaLaH)

Thanks for reading it. Hey Yaser what`s an Uppen. Is my Urdu or Punjabi that bad? It`s about time I took a vacation to Pakistan don`t u think? Ta

Tibor

Thanks for reading the thingy majig

Waheed.

Thank you for the comment. Just one thing though. The poem is not about, how dare a brown boy go to a white women when he has so many home grown `Upni Kurryaan`. It’s about the typical Pakistani men of early 50s 60s that were impressed by the white women for their skins and skins only. Full stop. Period. Even that`s okay. There`s nothing wrong there but when you begin destroying people life because of your complexes, when you feel ashamed to talk about your culture, of where you came from and that anything white is better than anything desi, then there is a problem. Imran Khan married Jamima Khan, no problem there and why should there be but when he starts acting like a saint and starts telling children to be good little children whilst he himself was a playboy, then you`ve gotta say hmmm. The poem was targeted at their hypocrisy. I would also go as far as to say that they want the white women but not the remaining baggage that comes with it, i.e. they want the woman to suddenly become a good housewife with half a dozen baby chicks. These people also lift the banner of Islam very well, knowing full well they`ve committed adultery, indulged in alcohol and premarital sex and basically taken the piss (extracted the urine) out of their faith and hurt a lot of people in the process.. Yet they want their women to follow those ideals.

Once again thank you all.

Omar Phoenix

Ylh



Shame on you...you forgot you slogans.

Now what are we going to laugh at.

I read you poem and my first reaction was a mild ``...hmmm`` read it again and said, ``...hmm`` again but this time it followed a deeper breath...

I have couple of comments...when people cross over the bigh POND, to say that citus interruption is only over riding thought in their minds is a bit quick. I feel they have to deal with

a) opportunity in all shapes and forms

b) freedom in its entire EXCESSES literally

c) and choice

to quote Ru-daul-vi, ``sarri umar maulvi humaray dimagh mein khurafaat bhartay hain, aour nani amman say bachpan say sunna tha kay tumharay abba yaye kartay thay aour tumharay abba woh kartay thay, hum nay bhee faisalah kar liyya kay jub hum bhee barray hon gay to yahee khuch karrain ga`yaye`` aour, ``aggar Aap kay banday gaRbaRa na jaa`ain to kia ta`ajub`` and someone else said,

``key maghrib ko jeenay ka saleeqa aataa haye, Marnay ka Qareena khuch mashriq he ke rava`ait haye, aour appna yaye haal, keh,

Oh god these UPENN people like Zehra ... they think they know everything ....

I like the raw edeges they work well for you in your poem ...

-Yasser Hamdani

Sobia #4

You didn`t! :-)

i like the raw edges. they work well for you in this poem.

the issue is becomming circular.

crude, real, with no frills, loved your poem....

who cares about the poem style, it`s soaking with the author`s style and thoughts, which is the only thing that matters.

I`ve seen the same pakistani male ``think with my penis`` syndrome here in the United States. In the long run, these men are left with two fates: 1)they treat their gori wifes so bad that they leave , or

2)their wives give them the finger and take away their money minus the children (the real victims of such foolishness

And I`m being optimistic when I say ``gori wives,`` some just don`t marry them.

Anyway, I look forward to reading more of your works. You have the talent of ``saying it like it is.``

Omarphoenix:

These illegitimate cultural off-spring of the Gora Sahib never forgot the ``glamour`` of their masters even post-1947.They secretly nurtured & nursed their desire to re-enact the whole `schmazzel` in their wheatish(mexi-pak variety),bhoori and kalloo skins.

But!!!they must avenge the imperialists too.After all their bosses were nice,it were those at the top who were to be fought.

So they devised & rationalised a unique way to get even.The izar-band route of seeking independance & enslaving their misses,mrs and mistresses(Nehru is reported to have `pawed` too) in one `testesmonial`-knot.They also occasionally mentioned of thus their grand service to Islam,forgetting that they were really `servicing`

Islam.

Unbeknownst to these jaani vaakers it was really they themselves who were being had.

```chatkhara` e habeeb tho mushkil naheen magur

voh kya karay kay jis ka muqqadar kharab ho``

who---?

tr:To seek a `spicey` beloved is no problem,but for him who is condemned with bad luck.

AND:

``Qismat kee bdnasseebee ko sayyad kya karay``

tr:How can the trapper fault the bad-luck of those eager to get ensnared.

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Some cultural descendants of these pilpili sahibs have now(hook,line & sinker) become ngo wards of Uncle Sam & his once or twice-removed cousins.

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wassalaam

I can`t believe I`m here before temporal this time!!!! :)

I think the poem is interesting...don`t have any other words to use for it. It`s very crude in places and sometimes a bit revolting but on the whole interesting.