The Ongoing IT Revolution and Security Implications for Pakistan

I have some comments to make

I tend to agree that % of Indian managers may be less. This could be on account of

a) tendency of senior Indian IT professionals to return home when their kids are in 5-6 years age group. Quite a few of my friends have come back. And they have found good jobs back home in India. This is to protect their kids from doing drugs, sex and other not so good influences of US of A. I dont think there are any such opputunites for Pakis back home.

b) further , the Indian IT community do tend to look down on `Managers` who usually work on MS- project, WOrd , Powerpoint, meetings, presentation etc etc .... Not exactly what challenges the Indians. Though this is a fairly myopic view.

c) Intrinsically, I think the South asians with their typical culture ( inability to work as a team etc etc) make poor managers. ( smelling of racial bias!!!!?)

However, the overall thrust of the article was poor. Pakis can do well in IT and earn $$$ irrespective of how India is doing. The software cake is very very big.

However, linked to the success of IT is a whole lot of other socio-economic-cultural issues.

Why is Pakistan with mountains, lakes etc etc is not doing well in tourism??? because for tourism to succeed there must be peace within the country (not coups, firings, AK 47 totting jehadis strutting around). The roads must be good, there should be safety etc etc.

similarly it is not sufficient that because there is talent in Pakistan , IT will succeed.

Re: All of VSN`s posts

Haha. You crack me up man. If only half the buffoons who`ve got their knickers in a knot would realize how you`re pushing their buttons and prompting redundant 600 word monologues from seeting Pakis.

And for all of Umairr`s rantings about Indians` lack of success beyond IT...Umairr, step out of your little server and router room in the back sometime and look up a few of the top management consulting and investment banking firms. Last time I checked (being in the industry), there were more Indian managing directors and partners there than Chinese ones! Hell, McKinsey`s CEO is Indian!

Re: scout

Stop yo silly gloating about basmati rice. Don`t you know there`s tons of rice grown in southern India...enough to be exported over for me.

Ration of Indian programmers to Indian Managers?

Well, somebody should get the data about how many CEOs are Indian or of Indian origin. See, all those IITians and IIMs products are occupying TOP positions in their companies if they have not already become Entrepreneurs. Entrepreneurship comes naturally to them and so after working for a while, they float and MANAGE their own comapanies rathen then others.

Re Ummair

You made a good point about the employee being king but that sort of got negated about your bs about not many Indians in management positions vs pakistanis.

I don`t know what you base your point on, but if you look at start-ups/entrepreneurship/south asians who graduate from business schools, I don`t know what you`ve been inhaling.

It`s only a matter of time before some nut from your side makes the claim that Pakis make better cabbies only to be retorted by a nut from our side saying that Indians make better newspaper vendors!! :)

I don`t happen to dwell in IT land thankfully and in my line of work, advertising, the ratio of Indian managers to Pakistanis I`ve encountered on the client side at various levels [and none on the ad agency side ever on the management track ever] over the last 15 years is more like 50 to 1 [and that sole Pakistani was a Parsi--go figure!]. But this is based on my experience and specialty alone and who am I to generalize?

Re VSN et al

What one chooses to do in terms of selecting a product based on national origin is one`s own business. It`s the same rationale why many Americans boycotted South African products during the time of Apartheid. In my case, I`m technically a Tamil speaker, but I do go out of the way to boycott Sri Lankan Tamil busineses because I believe that the Tigers are a bunch of evil fascists and they extort money for their cause from all expatriate Sri Lankan Tamils. That is my prerogative.

sadna #133 Glad to see a fellow Indian condemning vsn, rather than keeping silent. I have always believed the divide is not between Indians and Pakistanis, but between hate-filled people and the ``silent majority`` which is the rest of us.

tahmed321
Thanks but as an Indian at this point in time I would rather do without Pakistani endorsements.

Urstruly, fairdinkum
Wake up and recognise a world where most people act on their own judgement beyond the reach of a chosen few`s pet moral injunctions. Thats a huge percentage, btw much more than 10%.

Sadhana

RE: Sadhna# 153

If you and the guys whom you are supporting represent ``....the people who act on their own judgement beyond the reach of a chosen few`s pet moral injunctions``, I would rather live under a rock and be proud of it. Thank you very much.

Urstruly
Thanks for making it so easy. BTW, how many slaves fit under a rock?

RE: Sadhna

About 90%.

Talking of rocks, I was trying to imagine sadhna throwing rocks at urstruly and myself :)

Sadhna, wake up and recognise a world where what goes around comes around!

Urstruly
90% :That must raise quite a stink, especially when the ground(and the rock) shakes with the rest of the world marching by.

fairdinkum
Tomatoes are my personal choice. ``What comes round..``, why thats what I was trying to get across.

Sadhana

RE: Sadhna

You stick with your stink and as you see I stick with mine.

RE: VSN
just for your misguided self I will
send a book review to CHOWK next week and hope
that you enjoy it. You may even learn a thing
or two!

Ras

I thought you had a way of reconciling with that, too? I am crushed.

Sadhan

RE: Sadhana

The feeling is mutual my dear.