John Joss September 15, 2000
#17 Posted by Pankaj on September 19, 2000 1:10:43 am
Just a query: Is this ``ghar ka bhedi...`` also taught in Urdu classes. Most of the other proverbs like ``Muh me ram...`` and ``Aankh ka andha...`` were also taught to me in my Hindi class. I sometime wonder at the similarity of the language we(Indians and pakistanis) speak. :)
Cheers
#16 Posted by Urstruly on September 18, 2000 10:27:14 pm
RE: Scout
Yes! and its not just ears. For further info on anatomy related to smoke, contact Temporal.
RE: Satyavadi
Thank you
Yes! and its not just ears. For further info on anatomy related to smoke, contact Temporal.
RE: Satyavadi
Thank you
#15 Posted by scout on September 18, 2000 9:07:58 pm
pullu,
Sometimes we can`t help say mean things to Jay. He`s always saying mean things to others and spreading hateful propaganda.
T-bhai,
He deserved what you said to him.
Sometimes we can`t help say mean things to Jay. He`s always saying mean things to others and spreading hateful propaganda.
T-bhai,
He deserved what you said to him.
#14 Posted by temporal on September 18, 2000 6:00:39 pm
pullu #11:
[Thoda zyada nahin ho gaya? ..the way u recommend drugs to be taken...!]
ThoRRa nahiN buhat ziada ho gaya hay!
The consistent way this guy (jay Thackeray) simultaneously speaks out of all his orifices, once in a while brings out the worst in me.
HumaiN ummeed hay aap aur doosray bhallay log humaiN maaf kar daiNgay!
rgds,
t
[Thoda zyada nahin ho gaya? ..the way u recommend drugs to be taken...!]
ThoRRa nahiN buhat ziada ho gaya hay!
The consistent way this guy (jay Thackeray) simultaneously speaks out of all his orifices, once in a while brings out the worst in me.
HumaiN ummeed hay aap aur doosray bhallay log humaiN maaf kar daiNgay!
rgds,
t
#13 Posted by scout on September 18, 2000 4:27:18 pm
Urstruly,
Is that smoke coming out of your ears?
Is that smoke coming out of your ears?
#11 Posted by pullu on September 18, 2000 4:27:18 pm
With regard to dotcoms...
Is it necessary that dotcoms must push themselves to facilitators of e-commerce?
Continuing in the same vein, why are ISPs in a better position in a dotcom race?
FOr a site like tehelka.com ( i hope the spelling is right}, the site that brought out Manoj Prabhakar`s recording, how can they become a profit making company? Only through ad revenues?
Doesn`t look feasible..If not then why and If yes then How?
John Joss...?
Temoporal #re 8
Thoda zyada nahin ho gaya? ..the way u recommend drugs to be taken...!
It was in your subconscious mind it`s ok...you have read Oscar Wilde, you have imbibed it. As simple as that!
Jay #re 6
It is nice to take a dig at others..gets the best out of both sides, but then can`t we just keep it a bit less acrimonious.
Actually temporal normally has a nice temper.
Is it necessary that dotcoms must push themselves to facilitators of e-commerce?
Continuing in the same vein, why are ISPs in a better position in a dotcom race?
FOr a site like tehelka.com ( i hope the spelling is right}, the site that brought out Manoj Prabhakar`s recording, how can they become a profit making company? Only through ad revenues?
Doesn`t look feasible..If not then why and If yes then How?
John Joss...?
Temoporal #re 8
Thoda zyada nahin ho gaya? ..the way u recommend drugs to be taken...!
It was in your subconscious mind it`s ok...you have read Oscar Wilde, you have imbibed it. As simple as that!
Jay #re 6
It is nice to take a dig at others..gets the best out of both sides, but then can`t we just keep it a bit less acrimonious.
Actually temporal normally has a nice temper.
#10 Posted by Urstruly on September 18, 2000 1:11:55 pm
Dear JJ.
I think there is something wrong/evil with your articles.
People are either extremely hostile to them or they are completely indifferent. There are no `middle of the road` interactors here.
My assesment for hostility is that you are ``Ghar ka Bhaidi`` which makes other people of the ``Ghar`` think that ``Ghar ka bhaidi lanka dha rha hay``.
I dont understand the reason for the indiffernce though. Probably, you write on something that is above most of us (BTW I understood everything you wrote).
May be you should choose a classy title, something like:
``Stop killing IT businesses``
``IT Businesses stop this suicide``
or the best of all
``Why all Indian dot coms will fail``
``The reasons of dot com failures and Kashmir``
``Blasphemy Law as applied to IT failures``
and trust me, you dont neeed to prove your case or heck you dont even need a case.
I think there is something wrong/evil with your articles.
People are either extremely hostile to them or they are completely indifferent. There are no `middle of the road` interactors here.
My assesment for hostility is that you are ``Ghar ka Bhaidi`` which makes other people of the ``Ghar`` think that ``Ghar ka bhaidi lanka dha rha hay``.
I dont understand the reason for the indiffernce though. Probably, you write on something that is above most of us (BTW I understood everything you wrote).
May be you should choose a classy title, something like:
``Stop killing IT businesses``
``IT Businesses stop this suicide``
or the best of all
``Why all Indian dot coms will fail``
``The reasons of dot com failures and Kashmir``
``Blasphemy Law as applied to IT failures``
and trust me, you dont neeed to prove your case or heck you dont even need a case.
#9 Posted by fozia on September 18, 2000 12:48:29 pm
Absolutely agree with your opinion JJ. Dot.coms are high-tech quackery of the new millenium.
Last 10+ years of a stock market bull run has resulted in an illusion that anybody can make money by ``investing``.
The Internet has captured the general public`s imagination and hence a new potential moneymaking machine has been generated by IPO`ing Dot.coms. Problem is thus far, virtual companies have been generating virtual cash. Investors/VC however have been using real cash to finance these virtual companies. Is it just me or do I see a big black hole in between the Real investors money and the virtual cash flow??
History has shown time and time that at the dawn of a new technological breakthrough -eg invention of the transistor, electricity, many are enticed to invest in a company based on new technology promising obscene wealth in the future. Most companies fail and it`s the small investor who gets burned.
Too bad Greed has such a short memory....
Regards,
Fozia
Last 10+ years of a stock market bull run has resulted in an illusion that anybody can make money by ``investing``.
The Internet has captured the general public`s imagination and hence a new potential moneymaking machine has been generated by IPO`ing Dot.coms. Problem is thus far, virtual companies have been generating virtual cash. Investors/VC however have been using real cash to finance these virtual companies. Is it just me or do I see a big black hole in between the Real investors money and the virtual cash flow??
History has shown time and time that at the dawn of a new technological breakthrough -eg invention of the transistor, electricity, many are enticed to invest in a company based on new technology promising obscene wealth in the future. Most companies fail and it`s the small investor who gets burned.
Too bad Greed has such a short memory....
Regards,
Fozia
#8 Posted by temporal on September 18, 2000 9:33:34 am
jay Thackeray #3 and 6:
Remind yourself to take the prescription drugs orally. It is obviously not working anally. And regularly, or they may come and take you away for good.
Read post #1, 4 and & 7 carefully. Very carefully. If there is a word that you don’t understand check a dictionary or ask. There is no shame, ever, in learning.
most humbly,
temporal
PS: Other gentle folks here. Please extend me a generous dose of understanding when I deal with this genius.
Remind yourself to take the prescription drugs orally. It is obviously not working anally. And regularly, or they may come and take you away for good.
Read post #1, 4 and & 7 carefully. Very carefully. If there is a word that you don’t understand check a dictionary or ask. There is no shame, ever, in learning.
most humbly,
temporal
PS: Other gentle folks here. Please extend me a generous dose of understanding when I deal with this genius.
#7 Posted by temporal on September 18, 2000 9:18:10 am
Mukallaf #4:
The whole tone of post #1 was tongue in cheek. Please read it again and tell me if it was otherwise.
To provide proper perspective, here is the relevant quote from my interact to John’s previous article:” We have trillions of morsels of knowledge and little wisdom. We learn or can access the price of everything. But we tend to overlook their value.”
In my gentle dig at John perhaps I may have crossed over into sarcasm.
However, I would not accuse him of plagiarism. That is for literary sleuths or imbeciles to do. And frankly this piece by no stretch would qualify as a literary gem.
I would not accuse him of plagiarism, also, because over a period of time so many observations, comments and quotes are assimilated unconsciously into our collective sub-conscious.
Thanks for the post and the quote.
regards,
temporal
The whole tone of post #1 was tongue in cheek. Please read it again and tell me if it was otherwise.
To provide proper perspective, here is the relevant quote from my interact to John’s previous article:” We have trillions of morsels of knowledge and little wisdom. We learn or can access the price of everything. But we tend to overlook their value.”
In my gentle dig at John perhaps I may have crossed over into sarcasm.
However, I would not accuse him of plagiarism. That is for literary sleuths or imbeciles to do. And frankly this piece by no stretch would qualify as a literary gem.
I would not accuse him of plagiarism, also, because over a period of time so many observations, comments and quotes are assimilated unconsciously into our collective sub-conscious.
Thanks for the post and the quote.
regards,
temporal
#6 Posted by jay on September 18, 2000 8:05:59 am
OSCAR WILDE AND OMAR WASIM TEHSIN,
The british foreign office has recently declassified a lot of material relating to the indo anglian writers of the ninteenth century. From the early days , in their eagerness to create a colonial empire, the british encouraged learning of english by the natives. The sheer determination and the hope of securing govt jobs propelled many to be outstanding in english.
One such person from northern india was a muslim, Omar Wasim Tehsin, who wrote many good works in english. Early in this century he migrated to england where he adopted the psuedonym of Oscar Wlde to sound more christian and british. It is alleged that this person has since then returned to a region now called pakistan. More than a century old, the person is alleged to be still active in the literary field, mainly in the internet, to keep his anonymity.
Still some people know his psuedonym.
The british foreign office has recently declassified a lot of material relating to the indo anglian writers of the ninteenth century. From the early days , in their eagerness to create a colonial empire, the british encouraged learning of english by the natives. The sheer determination and the hope of securing govt jobs propelled many to be outstanding in english.
One such person from northern india was a muslim, Omar Wasim Tehsin, who wrote many good works in english. Early in this century he migrated to england where he adopted the psuedonym of Oscar Wlde to sound more christian and british. It is alleged that this person has since then returned to a region now called pakistan. More than a century old, the person is alleged to be still active in the literary field, mainly in the internet, to keep his anonymity.
Still some people know his psuedonym.
#5 Posted by SaimaShah on September 18, 2000 2:58:07 am
Re: JJ
At last some sense in the VC madness. agree with some ideas. My own take on the issue is that capitalists are speculators rather than contributors to the overall wealth of a socio-system. After the TRex`s go the real workers come. Unfortunately, big money sets the tenor of competition i.e., the ethics, the values--the rules of the game. Real entreprenuers get an unfair arena to play in. And this dictates their ability to succeed.
Secondly, it is way easier to be bought by a larger company rather than to keep chipping in as a small company.
I find your conclusion optimistic... it is still early days for the Internet, but surely the VCs know that too?
At last some sense in the VC madness. agree with some ideas. My own take on the issue is that capitalists are speculators rather than contributors to the overall wealth of a socio-system. After the TRex`s go the real workers come. Unfortunately, big money sets the tenor of competition i.e., the ethics, the values--the rules of the game. Real entreprenuers get an unfair arena to play in. And this dictates their ability to succeed.
Secondly, it is way easier to be bought by a larger company rather than to keep chipping in as a small company.
I find your conclusion optimistic... it is still early days for the Internet, but surely the VCs know that too?
#4 Posted by Mukallaf on September 17, 2000 7:08:27 pm
Re: temporal #1
``Venture capitalists think business model is for cynics, who know the cost of everything and the value of nothing. (Thanks for using my line from the précis to your last article:))``
Actually it`s Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere`s Fan (1892), Act 3
Cecil Graham: What is a cynic?
Lord Darlington: A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
``Venture capitalists think business model is for cynics, who know the cost of everything and the value of nothing. (Thanks for using my line from the précis to your last article:))``
Actually it`s Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere`s Fan (1892), Act 3
Cecil Graham: What is a cynic?
Lord Darlington: A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
#3 Posted by jay on September 17, 2000 11:16:41 am
WELCOME JOHN JOSS,
I look forward to your articles. Chowk has gone one up on the pak tradition of marriage between first cousins, it is pure incest, interactors, writers and of late chowk staff are all in orgy. Some have become authors based on what has been learnt on chowk, k for kafir, J for jay.
Have a look at interact no 1, temporal is accusing you of plagiarism, the usage `` price of everything and the value of none`, he has claimed it for himself. As it clearly shows, many on chowk have only chowk, their view of the world, their input from the world. Keep off the interact, be an author. Vulgarity, accusations of plagiarism for a usage as old as the mountains, we need your sympathy.
Regards
jay.
I look forward to your articles. Chowk has gone one up on the pak tradition of marriage between first cousins, it is pure incest, interactors, writers and of late chowk staff are all in orgy. Some have become authors based on what has been learnt on chowk, k for kafir, J for jay.
Have a look at interact no 1, temporal is accusing you of plagiarism, the usage `` price of everything and the value of none`, he has claimed it for himself. As it clearly shows, many on chowk have only chowk, their view of the world, their input from the world. Keep off the interact, be an author. Vulgarity, accusations of plagiarism for a usage as old as the mountains, we need your sympathy.
Regards
jay.
#2 Posted by scout on September 16, 2000 6:49:14 pm
*yawn *
Where`s the milk?
disclaimer: This is solely my opinion, no offense meant to John Joss, or all the technology/IT/dot.com buffs out there.
Where`s the milk?
disclaimer: This is solely my opinion, no offense meant to John Joss, or all the technology/IT/dot.com buffs out there.
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