Shandana Minhas September 27, 2000
#121 Posted by jay on September 30, 2000 5:50:17 am
RAW and ISI,
Many an argosies of indo pak peace have hit the icebergs of jihadic bias on the chowk. I recall amit, to some extent narain abandon their hope and optimism, either to walk away, or to abandon any semblance of understnading and fellowship with the chowk pakistanis.
Submerged in the pak verbiage is the K for kafir ideology, which surfaces at the moment rationality takes leave. With in a day of Islamabad bombing, using a fruit truck from taliban kabul, CE remarks that it is a RAW job. If it is true, RAW should be well and truely proud of, may be mosad has to learn from the indians. From CE to the lowest life forms in pakistan, indians always show the way, they are the force behind anything, may be even the 3NT.
The faceless lynch mob of the chowk is out .
Many an argosies of indo pak peace have hit the icebergs of jihadic bias on the chowk. I recall amit, to some extent narain abandon their hope and optimism, either to walk away, or to abandon any semblance of understnading and fellowship with the chowk pakistanis.
Submerged in the pak verbiage is the K for kafir ideology, which surfaces at the moment rationality takes leave. With in a day of Islamabad bombing, using a fruit truck from taliban kabul, CE remarks that it is a RAW job. If it is true, RAW should be well and truely proud of, may be mosad has to learn from the indians. From CE to the lowest life forms in pakistan, indians always show the way, they are the force behind anything, may be even the 3NT.
The faceless lynch mob of the chowk is out .
#120 Posted by jay on September 30, 2000 5:50:17 am
I-T PROWESS,
Pakistanis are determined to take their country to the 21st, eventhough they are still strugling with the Y1K problem of how to control jihad. This jihadic influence appear to have clouded their selection of the top IT university for colaboration. From nation of today,
First campus of IT varsity to open next month with $6m investment
ISLAMABAD - Girn American University of the Northern Cyprus will be opening up its first ever virtual IT campus in Islamabad with the aim of helping Pakistan become part of global e-learning community in the coming month with an initial investment of $6 million. This was disclosed by
///with gradustes of the gern, streaming out, pakistan future is secure, at least for the time being, till the ``taliban jinn tech university`` opens its doors.
Pakistanis are determined to take their country to the 21st, eventhough they are still strugling with the Y1K problem of how to control jihad. This jihadic influence appear to have clouded their selection of the top IT university for colaboration. From nation of today,
First campus of IT varsity to open next month with $6m investment
ISLAMABAD - Girn American University of the Northern Cyprus will be opening up its first ever virtual IT campus in Islamabad with the aim of helping Pakistan become part of global e-learning community in the coming month with an initial investment of $6 million. This was disclosed by
///with gradustes of the gern, streaming out, pakistan future is secure, at least for the time being, till the ``taliban jinn tech university`` opens its doors.
#119 Posted by fairdinkum on September 30, 2000 4:55:09 am
slink # 120
It is indeed unfortunate that plight of “Hidden” Pakistani Hindus has gone unnoticed on chowk. However, it does not surprise me at all. Pakistanis who have had little or no experience of interacting with this minority dominate this place (chowk).
I have three Pakistani Hindu friends. Ramesh and Sunil lawlani & Sunil’s wife Gita lalwani. They come from Ghotki in Sindh. They are the only friends I have who speak my mother tongue in this strange far away land. They lost two younger brothers in Karachi. Their shop was burned and looted, and one brother shot during the ethno-linguistic violence. Some religious zealots also murdered the other one in Karachi.
I feel ashamed when they treat me with respect despite what has happened to them in Pakistan. They have never complained to me about the loss of their brothers. However, they often complain about the general unfair treatment of Hindus in Pakistan. They tell me that they were scared to use their Hindu names while traveling within Pakistan – the country of their birth. How difficult it was for them during the army operation in Sindh.
They get so excited when Pakistani cricket team does well. They have so much love for the place where they were born. There is no need for them to seek out Pakistanis, as there are so many Sindhis here from India. But they go out of their way to be with us. They feel most happy when they are in the company of Pakistani Sindhis. I don’t speak my mother tongue very well, but it sound very sweet, especially when Gita speaks Sindhi, she reminds me of my cousin sisters.
Two years ago, a Pakistani student from Lahore came and stayed in the same apartment building where they live. He had a long beard and no mustache. He was here on a scholarship from Government of Pakistan. He would often use their phone to ring his family in Pakistan. He used their car. And he used their contacts to find a part time job.
One day, while I was there, he came in and asked them if he could use their car. Sunil handed him the key, and at the same time asked him to stay as the tea was ready and Gita has made somosas. This man’s face changed, and he quite rudely said, “it is haram for us Muslims to eat your food”.
It is indeed unfortunate that plight of “Hidden” Pakistani Hindus has gone unnoticed on chowk. However, it does not surprise me at all. Pakistanis who have had little or no experience of interacting with this minority dominate this place (chowk).
I have three Pakistani Hindu friends. Ramesh and Sunil lawlani & Sunil’s wife Gita lalwani. They come from Ghotki in Sindh. They are the only friends I have who speak my mother tongue in this strange far away land. They lost two younger brothers in Karachi. Their shop was burned and looted, and one brother shot during the ethno-linguistic violence. Some religious zealots also murdered the other one in Karachi.
I feel ashamed when they treat me with respect despite what has happened to them in Pakistan. They have never complained to me about the loss of their brothers. However, they often complain about the general unfair treatment of Hindus in Pakistan. They tell me that they were scared to use their Hindu names while traveling within Pakistan – the country of their birth. How difficult it was for them during the army operation in Sindh.
They get so excited when Pakistani cricket team does well. They have so much love for the place where they were born. There is no need for them to seek out Pakistanis, as there are so many Sindhis here from India. But they go out of their way to be with us. They feel most happy when they are in the company of Pakistani Sindhis. I don’t speak my mother tongue very well, but it sound very sweet, especially when Gita speaks Sindhi, she reminds me of my cousin sisters.
Two years ago, a Pakistani student from Lahore came and stayed in the same apartment building where they live. He had a long beard and no mustache. He was here on a scholarship from Government of Pakistan. He would often use their phone to ring his family in Pakistan. He used their car. And he used their contacts to find a part time job.
One day, while I was there, he came in and asked them if he could use their car. Sunil handed him the key, and at the same time asked him to stay as the tea was ready and Gita has made somosas. This man’s face changed, and he quite rudely said, “it is haram for us Muslims to eat your food”.
#118 Posted by slink on September 30, 2000 2:55:20 am
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#117 Posted by lubna on September 30, 2000 1:43:13 am
veeresh #94:
since the others are too busy to ask... could you donate some khaki chaddees this way? you see, we might not be able afford our own. and could you make sure the sizes are XXL? your chaddee wearers have such... ummm... SMART figures, their sizes probably won`t fit around the waists of our men. and one more thing... the ladies might have a problem with chaddees, so could you donate something else for them? maybe a khaki shuttlecock burqa?
since the others are too busy to ask... could you donate some khaki chaddees this way? you see, we might not be able afford our own. and could you make sure the sizes are XXL? your chaddee wearers have such... ummm... SMART figures, their sizes probably won`t fit around the waists of our men. and one more thing... the ladies might have a problem with chaddees, so could you donate something else for them? maybe a khaki shuttlecock burqa?
#116 Posted by ylh on September 30, 2000 12:22:20 am
Sadna
Dear Madam,
I have not attacked you personally so dont in future try this low down dirty trick please.
This seems to be a repeat of your perfomance on the other thread where you kept making strawman fallacies out of my arguments and fighting them.
And then you chose to insult me in rather creative terms.
Yasser Hamdani
Dear Madam,
I have not attacked you personally so dont in future try this low down dirty trick please.
This seems to be a repeat of your perfomance on the other thread where you kept making strawman fallacies out of my arguments and fighting them.
And then you chose to insult me in rather creative terms.
Yasser Hamdani
#115 Posted by krashid on September 29, 2000 11:03:52 pm
Sadna #115
In your new face in Chowk, how many times I have made attack on you. Say in last one month.
And I have stated a fact that if anyone on this forum has some other objective rather than discussion, it is a great injustice to all interactors.
Hope this clarifies.
That is between you and YLH, and I read both.
In your new face in Chowk, how many times I have made attack on you. Say in last one month.
And I have stated a fact that if anyone on this forum has some other objective rather than discussion, it is a great injustice to all interactors.
Hope this clarifies.
That is between you and YLH, and I read both.
#114 Posted by msingh on September 29, 2000 11:03:52 pm
hi`
guys
though i would be off-point to current discussion,i would like to suggest that all chowk citizen have a dekho at www.kamat.com.
a thoroughly well made website provides excellent links to various facets of subcontinent culture.
the richness and diversity in indian subcontinent comes through and makes me feel proud to part of this culture.
i hope visitors to chowk would appreciate richness of our common culture and would stop bickering.
regards
msingh
guys
though i would be off-point to current discussion,i would like to suggest that all chowk citizen have a dekho at www.kamat.com.
a thoroughly well made website provides excellent links to various facets of subcontinent culture.
the richness and diversity in indian subcontinent comes through and makes me feel proud to part of this culture.
i hope visitors to chowk would appreciate richness of our common culture and would stop bickering.
regards
msingh
#113 Posted by sadna on September 29, 2000 9:16:56 pm
ylh, krashid
The fact is, if I had chosen to respond to all your personal attacks, or choose to do so in future, my reply count would be much higher. RAW doesnot pay overtime, however, get it?
Sadhana
The fact is, if I had chosen to respond to all your personal attacks, or choose to do so in future, my reply count would be much higher. RAW doesnot pay overtime, however, get it?
Sadhana
#112 Posted by krashid on September 29, 2000 8:52:31 pm
Harish3!
I don`t know if you are aware of a phenomenon in psychology called projection. If not read it. It might open up your eyes and brain a little bit, if you have one.
Only the methods applied by you people is sophisticated learned over many millenium, otherwise statistically, India is a land of hate. I don`t have to give example over 50 years. Recent history is sufficient.
And even if such things happen in India on such a large scale even after a secular constitution:), I can understand very well about the nature of you people.
So stop preaching big talk.
Action speaks louder than words. And when India becomes a peaceful and nice nation, you don`t have to tell us day in and day out. It will be evident.
So stop too much BS.
And as someone said, that you are poet. I have heard that poet are sensitive people. It looks like your poets are also of the same variety as rest of other people.
I don`t know if you are aware of a phenomenon in psychology called projection. If not read it. It might open up your eyes and brain a little bit, if you have one.
Only the methods applied by you people is sophisticated learned over many millenium, otherwise statistically, India is a land of hate. I don`t have to give example over 50 years. Recent history is sufficient.
And even if such things happen in India on such a large scale even after a secular constitution:), I can understand very well about the nature of you people.
So stop preaching big talk.
Action speaks louder than words. And when India becomes a peaceful and nice nation, you don`t have to tell us day in and day out. It will be evident.
So stop too much BS.
And as someone said, that you are poet. I have heard that poet are sensitive people. It looks like your poets are also of the same variety as rest of other people.
#111 Posted by msingh on September 29, 2000 8:52:31 pm
hi`
guys
though i would be off-point to current discussion,i would like to suggest that all chowk citizen have a dekho at www.kamat.com.
a thoroughly well made website provides excellent links to various facets of subcontinent culture.
the richness and diversity in indian subcontinent comes through and makes me feel proud to part of this culture.
i hope visitors to chowk would appreciate richness of our common culture and would stop bickering.
regards
msingh
guys
though i would be off-point to current discussion,i would like to suggest that all chowk citizen have a dekho at www.kamat.com.
a thoroughly well made website provides excellent links to various facets of subcontinent culture.
the richness and diversity in indian subcontinent comes through and makes me feel proud to part of this culture.
i hope visitors to chowk would appreciate richness of our common culture and would stop bickering.
regards
msingh
#110 Posted by krashid on September 29, 2000 8:52:31 pm
Devkant #66
Although your initial thoughts are good. And religion has nothing to do with narrowminded view.
But your thought that you are beginning to lose respect for Pakistanis.
I can tell you few things.
As Jinnah said Whatever name you call a rose, it will remain rose. So your respect or disrespect has not much significance.
Second, to earn respect, it is necessary to give respect first. People might respect you in your country because of a very good human rights record in Punjab, Kashmir Assam etc. It is easy to get respect by burning churches, killing Muslims.
But with a foreigner, you take what you give. And I can not only judge how you people behave on this board, but also how you behave in your country.
Although your initial thoughts are good. And religion has nothing to do with narrowminded view.
But your thought that you are beginning to lose respect for Pakistanis.
I can tell you few things.
As Jinnah said Whatever name you call a rose, it will remain rose. So your respect or disrespect has not much significance.
Second, to earn respect, it is necessary to give respect first. People might respect you in your country because of a very good human rights record in Punjab, Kashmir Assam etc. It is easy to get respect by burning churches, killing Muslims.
But with a foreigner, you take what you give. And I can not only judge how you people behave on this board, but also how you behave in your country.
#109 Posted by Pankaj on September 29, 2000 8:52:31 pm
Re sac
``Every good looking one is either from Pakistan or North India. It can`t possibly be true!!``. I still wonder....``
And both are equally backward economically. It is the economy of South India that is booming with Northern states left far behind.
Cheers
``Every good looking one is either from Pakistan or North India. It can`t possibly be true!!``. I still wonder....``
And both are equally backward economically. It is the economy of South India that is booming with Northern states left far behind.
Cheers
#108 Posted by krashid on September 29, 2000 8:52:31 pm
Jay #79
Don`t worry Jay.
We know our destiny and struggle very well.
It will not be with heap of garbage called India.
Don`t worry Jay.
We know our destiny and struggle very well.
It will not be with heap of garbage called India.
#107 Posted by krashid on September 29, 2000 8:52:31 pm
Don`t worry pragmatix!
You will forget Kashmir expressway, when All India Expressway will takes its place.
Start learning Namaste and Parnam.
You will forget Kashmir expressway, when All India Expressway will takes its place.
Start learning Namaste and Parnam.
#106 Posted by krashid on September 29, 2000 8:52:31 pm
Satyavadi #87
See a doctor Satyavadi.
You are talking about partition in 1947, but you don`t want to take into account East Pakistan.
See a doctor Satyavadi.
You are talking about partition in 1947, but you don`t want to take into account East Pakistan.
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