Shandana Minhas September 27, 2000
#251 Posted by krashid on October 4, 2000 1:29:37 am
I don`t know about temporal attitude regarding commentaries on ``Pehle Insaan Phir Musalmaan``
But if humour has not yet attempted suicide, he will be crying with all four hands and feet.:-)
May be we can better discuss whether hand should be placed on chest or navel during ``Qiyam``.
But if humour has not yet attempted suicide, he will be crying with all four hands and feet.:-)
May be we can better discuss whether hand should be placed on chest or navel during ``Qiyam``.
#250 Posted by Kalki on October 3, 2000 8:27:35 pm
K for `kafir` in pakistan.
N was `Ni...` in US.
Blind hatred is a reality. Accept it morons.
#249 Posted by satyavadi on October 3, 2000 8:27:35 pm
Sarwari, whose comment unleashed the latest Indo-Pak war on Chowk should atleast appear once before the jury. Is there anything like accountability on Chowk?:)
Satyavadi
Satyavadi
#248 Posted by ylh on October 3, 2000 8:27:35 pm
Pragmatix,
Thankyou for your encouragement and sentiments.
Yasser Hamdani
Thankyou for your encouragement and sentiments.
Yasser Hamdani
#247 Posted by ylh on October 3, 2000 8:27:35 pm
Jay
Why dont you quote Asma Jahangir on what she said about Kashmir. I would love to see someone like Asma Jahangir on Chowk.
Its your hatemongering and your petty misconceptions about Pakistan that we have a problem with....
The refuge of a scounderel? Create Strawman fallacies which Jay`s kind is adept at doing....
Sorry Bahmad.
Yasser Hamdani
Why dont you quote Asma Jahangir on what she said about Kashmir. I would love to see someone like Asma Jahangir on Chowk.
Its your hatemongering and your petty misconceptions about Pakistan that we have a problem with....
The refuge of a scounderel? Create Strawman fallacies which Jay`s kind is adept at doing....
Sorry Bahmad.
Yasser Hamdani
#245 Posted by JR on October 3, 2000 8:27:35 pm
Hamidm #222 and Umair #227
Hamid, as ususal you are absolutely brilliant. And Mr. Umair as usual is evasive and prances off along his own track.
Umair will never directly answer any question that Hamidm has raised.. for obvious reasons!
Keep it up Hamidm. I salute you again!
-JR
Hamid, as ususal you are absolutely brilliant. And Mr. Umair as usual is evasive and prances off along his own track.
Umair will never directly answer any question that Hamidm has raised.. for obvious reasons!
Keep it up Hamidm. I salute you again!
-JR
#244 Posted by pullu on October 3, 2000 1:48:18 pm
with attention to sab #235
What you wrote was right. As it was said before pehle insaan phir mussalman.
First human then reilgion or God for that matter. Hum hain tho bhagwaan hai, Allah hai. Jab hum hi naheen honge tho phir Kiska Bhagawan yah kiska Allah. Kaun kisase duan mangega yah prarthana karega, aur kyon?
God first made humans then sent prophets or saints. Human first religion later. Common sense is not common after all.
``all the women seem to have deserted their positions out of disgust, ``
I am afraid Sadhana is missing. Par jaayengi kahan, aakhir unhe aana hai, zara der lagegi.
Chowk ka mamla hai. Mainey hi likha tha ``Move on``.
Mat maari gayi thi meri..but i didn`t mean that. I clarified..but..silence...
Lubna #243
So you see lubna life still stays simple.
All men are not same, ``paanchon ungaliyan barabar nahin hoti``
Life ought to be simple but it may not be. There have been many posts here, dipped in sanity, but the insane always seem to make more noise. Obviously.
hamidm #all your replies
They are always good..sarcastic extremes and good.
Pullu
What you wrote was right. As it was said before pehle insaan phir mussalman.
First human then reilgion or God for that matter. Hum hain tho bhagwaan hai, Allah hai. Jab hum hi naheen honge tho phir Kiska Bhagawan yah kiska Allah. Kaun kisase duan mangega yah prarthana karega, aur kyon?
God first made humans then sent prophets or saints. Human first religion later. Common sense is not common after all.
``all the women seem to have deserted their positions out of disgust, ``
I am afraid Sadhana is missing. Par jaayengi kahan, aakhir unhe aana hai, zara der lagegi.
Chowk ka mamla hai. Mainey hi likha tha ``Move on``.
Mat maari gayi thi meri..but i didn`t mean that. I clarified..but..silence...
Lubna #243
So you see lubna life still stays simple.
All men are not same, ``paanchon ungaliyan barabar nahin hoti``
Life ought to be simple but it may not be. There have been many posts here, dipped in sanity, but the insane always seem to make more noise. Obviously.
hamidm #all your replies
They are always good..sarcastic extremes and good.
Pullu
#243 Posted by temporal on October 3, 2000 1:45:32 pm
sab #235 and #246:
[urstruly please stay out of this] -also- [this has no bearing on what you two think about each other]
Welcome to Chowk.
Such articulation and eloquence!
Yaar maza aagaya! Like the rare forbidden fluids the ‘taste’ lingered long after I read the posts. Such pure joy to read unadulterated vitriol hurled with abandon none. And yet so focused and controlled. You have a way with words. Welcome once again and visit the gali kochays regularly. There is a dearth of eloquence.
And if you write, do contribute.
regards
temporal
[urstruly please stay out of this] -also- [this has no bearing on what you two think about each other]
Welcome to Chowk.
Such articulation and eloquence!
Yaar maza aagaya! Like the rare forbidden fluids the ‘taste’ lingered long after I read the posts. Such pure joy to read unadulterated vitriol hurled with abandon none. And yet so focused and controlled. You have a way with words. Welcome once again and visit the gali kochays regularly. There is a dearth of eloquence.
And if you write, do contribute.
regards
temporal
#242 Posted by fuzair on October 3, 2000 12:33:40 pm
Re: Asma Jehangir
Some time back (a couple of years) I was in Pakistan talking to a retired General and the topic of Asma Jehangir came up. Now, this man is a pretty devout Muslim--says his prayers fairly regularly, always has been a teetotaller, etc--and he said that she had to be the bravest and most principled Pakistani alive. Several other retired Army officers present agreed with him.
So, Ms. Jehangir has her admirers within the Army but, in all honesty, I must admit that he was of a generation before the current generals, when they still taught ball-room dancing and compulsory equitation at PMA, and the situation may be somewhat different now.
Some time back (a couple of years) I was in Pakistan talking to a retired General and the topic of Asma Jehangir came up. Now, this man is a pretty devout Muslim--says his prayers fairly regularly, always has been a teetotaller, etc--and he said that she had to be the bravest and most principled Pakistani alive. Several other retired Army officers present agreed with him.
So, Ms. Jehangir has her admirers within the Army but, in all honesty, I must admit that he was of a generation before the current generals, when they still taught ball-room dancing and compulsory equitation at PMA, and the situation may be somewhat different now.
#241 Posted by Urstruly on October 3, 2000 11:19:01 am
RE: Sab
If you always find your lost pacifiers in such places then the reason for the bitter taste in your mouth is quite understandable.
If you always find your lost pacifiers in such places then the reason for the bitter taste in your mouth is quite understandable.
#240 Posted by sac on October 3, 2000 11:07:52 am
re umairr #227:
``Irani girls cover themselves completely during the Olympics.Moroccan girls where bathing suits during Olympics. Pakistani girls are in between. All three are Muslims.``
If you say so. All I want to know is which ones will keep us company alongwith the houris and the ghulmans in afterlife?
``Irani girls cover themselves completely during the Olympics.Moroccan girls where bathing suits during Olympics. Pakistani girls are in between. All three are Muslims.``
If you say so. All I want to know is which ones will keep us company alongwith the houris and the ghulmans in afterlife?
#239 Posted by sab on October 3, 2000 11:07:52 am
urstruly,
this is my theory. i invite you to bring your considerable knowledge and expertise to bear on it..
the rhetorical cyclone caused by 190 (minus the number of relevant interacts) men breaking wind out of the wrong hole at the same time sucked my pacifier rudely out of my mouth and into somebodys elses ass. pinpointing it`s whereabouts is complicated because so many possible hosts are displaying the same symptoms (emotional constipation, verbal diarrhea etc).
i must now go about retrieving it for posterity from the fortunate posterior so i can go back to my apathetic sleep, would you mind terribly if i asked you to bend over? not that i`m suggesting it`s you..it`s just one has to start somewhere.
sabin
this is my theory. i invite you to bring your considerable knowledge and expertise to bear on it..
the rhetorical cyclone caused by 190 (minus the number of relevant interacts) men breaking wind out of the wrong hole at the same time sucked my pacifier rudely out of my mouth and into somebodys elses ass. pinpointing it`s whereabouts is complicated because so many possible hosts are displaying the same symptoms (emotional constipation, verbal diarrhea etc).
i must now go about retrieving it for posterity from the fortunate posterior so i can go back to my apathetic sleep, would you mind terribly if i asked you to bend over? not that i`m suggesting it`s you..it`s just one has to start somewhere.
sabin
#238 Posted by jay on October 3, 2000 11:07:52 am
CRIES OF YLH,
YLH had been asking me to stop my posts. Temporal at times have resorted to name calling. Otheres have said that this is pakistani board.
To understand these outbursts, one has to know the medium. Internet is an isolating technology, one can search for views similar to yours from a smogasboard of ideas and down load them and feel that your views are shared by many. There is no need to discuss or debate these ideas, sitting alone and chatting with a few can create the illusion of acceptance, discussions and conflicts can be avoided. It is this selection process that makes the internet lonely. It is like wearing electronic blinkers, to follow one own prejudices, appetites and parochial views, with out the mess of conversation and debate.
Types of YLH and temporals have at last located this heaven, they do not want their views challenged, the few on the chowk have defined their universe, devoid of any information that is in conflict with theirs. No Asma Jahangirs, no jay to quote her, what a bliss. This insightful understanding of internet i read in a news paper in Sydney, Australia.
YLH had been asking me to stop my posts. Temporal at times have resorted to name calling. Otheres have said that this is pakistani board.
To understand these outbursts, one has to know the medium. Internet is an isolating technology, one can search for views similar to yours from a smogasboard of ideas and down load them and feel that your views are shared by many. There is no need to discuss or debate these ideas, sitting alone and chatting with a few can create the illusion of acceptance, discussions and conflicts can be avoided. It is this selection process that makes the internet lonely. It is like wearing electronic blinkers, to follow one own prejudices, appetites and parochial views, with out the mess of conversation and debate.
Types of YLH and temporals have at last located this heaven, they do not want their views challenged, the few on the chowk have defined their universe, devoid of any information that is in conflict with theirs. No Asma Jahangirs, no jay to quote her, what a bliss. This insightful understanding of internet i read in a news paper in Sydney, Australia.
#237 Posted by jay on October 3, 2000 11:07:52 am
Hamid,
Name calling is uniquely Pakistani, a society where the entire relational minefield of matrimony can be thrown asunder by uttering the same word three times, one can expect a lot of name calling. The latest to fall victim to this is `sadna` who has quitt the chowk due to RAW accusations. You can call Asma CIA agent, could have been worse if it were RAW.
Then again lineage is another preoccupation of the pakistanis, tracing lineage to Ghouri is great, some has claimed as close relative of the prophet. These are important to pakistanis, so Asma is of loose morals and doubtful lineage also is a slander.
Asma is hated by the jihadists, she is against homour killing. The CE has shown his support for honour killing by inviting the killer for a phot opportunity with him. At last Asma had to lead a peace delegation to india. Peace delegation headed by woman, comprising only of women, by some one hated by the jihadists and the military. That sums up the priority of peace by the pak collective and there are head in the sand pakistanis talking about peace.
The article I posted is a good one, I should repeat it when ever a ylh utters the `` have you been to pakistan` line.
I know the chowk pakistanis hate Asma, she talks of things that many pakistanis hate to accept. Pakistan as a nation is in a terrible state, euthanesia is legal for countries. Time to think of 3NT.
Name calling is uniquely Pakistani, a society where the entire relational minefield of matrimony can be thrown asunder by uttering the same word three times, one can expect a lot of name calling. The latest to fall victim to this is `sadna` who has quitt the chowk due to RAW accusations. You can call Asma CIA agent, could have been worse if it were RAW.
Then again lineage is another preoccupation of the pakistanis, tracing lineage to Ghouri is great, some has claimed as close relative of the prophet. These are important to pakistanis, so Asma is of loose morals and doubtful lineage also is a slander.
Asma is hated by the jihadists, she is against homour killing. The CE has shown his support for honour killing by inviting the killer for a phot opportunity with him. At last Asma had to lead a peace delegation to india. Peace delegation headed by woman, comprising only of women, by some one hated by the jihadists and the military. That sums up the priority of peace by the pak collective and there are head in the sand pakistanis talking about peace.
The article I posted is a good one, I should repeat it when ever a ylh utters the `` have you been to pakistan` line.
I know the chowk pakistanis hate Asma, she talks of things that many pakistanis hate to accept. Pakistan as a nation is in a terrible state, euthanesia is legal for countries. Time to think of 3NT.
#236 Posted by lubna on October 3, 2000 11:07:52 am
Re sab #235:
[[all i can think of after reading these vitrolic, bitter, useless posts is that i now understand that wars are indeed started by men. not misunderstood men, or silly men, or even well meaning men, but men who cannot see beyond their own petty interests and insecurities and feel compelled to colour all possible experiences with them.......
in such a situation my question is `who are you strutting around for?`, all the women seem to have deserted their positions out of disgust, and perhaps also the realization that this isn`t even a real battle. this is just a bunch of little boys sublimating childhood war games into adult interactions......
are you doing it for each other? are you driven by a need for approval from other idiots?]]
thank you for that sabin - muun ki baat chin lee.
pullu,
remember you said ``Life for Men ought to be simple.. Khana,Peena,Sona aur Mona.``?
you could use the interacts on this board to prove why that ought to be so.
[[all i can think of after reading these vitrolic, bitter, useless posts is that i now understand that wars are indeed started by men. not misunderstood men, or silly men, or even well meaning men, but men who cannot see beyond their own petty interests and insecurities and feel compelled to colour all possible experiences with them.......
in such a situation my question is `who are you strutting around for?`, all the women seem to have deserted their positions out of disgust, and perhaps also the realization that this isn`t even a real battle. this is just a bunch of little boys sublimating childhood war games into adult interactions......
are you doing it for each other? are you driven by a need for approval from other idiots?]]
thank you for that sabin - muun ki baat chin lee.
pullu,
remember you said ``Life for Men ought to be simple.. Khana,Peena,Sona aur Mona.``?
you could use the interacts on this board to prove why that ought to be so.
#235 Posted by Urstruly on October 3, 2000 9:26:21 am
RE: Chowk Staff # 234
You guys ought to get a life. What have we done to you to deserve that:)
You guys ought to get a life. What have we done to you to deserve that:)
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