Shandana Minhas September 27, 2000
#83 Posted by Urstruly on September 29, 2000 11:08:03 am
Medicine Man aka temporal!
Can you spare some Fruit Salt (ENO, Alka Seltzer etc) for Satyavadi? ( along with the `How to use` instructions, plz)
Can you spare some Fruit Salt (ENO, Alka Seltzer etc) for Satyavadi? ( along with the `How to use` instructions, plz)
#84 Posted by fairdinkum on September 29, 2000 12:39:38 pm
sadna #78
I told you – didn’t I? And see how easy it is to flush out ISI agents :) and you have been spending 60 hrs/week for nothing…should have just asked me to write couple of lines to flush em out :)
khufia agency main hamaray joo mitter hain woo hamari help nahi karyn gay? aap kay liya ham nay itnay saray ISI kay agents flush out kiya hain….you know this game of jasoosi involves give and take :)
Urstruly #84
You have lost the first round already by admitting that you are an agent :) aap ki sari training par ham nay aik minture main pani pharyr diay :) ab aap foran woo wala capsule kha lijiyay.
I told you – didn’t I? And see how easy it is to flush out ISI agents :) and you have been spending 60 hrs/week for nothing…should have just asked me to write couple of lines to flush em out :)
khufia agency main hamaray joo mitter hain woo hamari help nahi karyn gay? aap kay liya ham nay itnay saray ISI kay agents flush out kiya hain….you know this game of jasoosi involves give and take :)
Urstruly #84
You have lost the first round already by admitting that you are an agent :) aap ki sari training par ham nay aik minture main pani pharyr diay :) ab aap foran woo wala capsule kha lijiyay.
#85 Posted by satyavadi on September 29, 2000 12:46:01 pm
YLH #48,49,50,54,55,56........ (You are making me do this Math, I hate you :) )
MINORITIES AS A PERCENTAGE OF POPULATION IN PRE-PARTITION PAKISTAN-OF-TODAY
YLH says::
{{{{{
``Had you read Hamza Alavi`s book properly you would also discern that much like myself, he is also talking about the original Pakistan plan which would have all of Punjab and Bengal. These provinces were partitioned in 1947.``
``Do you also forget that Pakistan was also partitioned later on .. Bangladesh I believe has 15 % minority Hindu population.``
``Please atleast consult some books before you check the figures. Had the Punjab and Bengal given to us entirely, we would still have only 32 to 35 % minorities but they werent given to us entirely.``
``Then Bangladesh went its own way .. taking away a chunk of our minorities..... so the present day percentage of minorities is only based on facts.``
``and finally he forgets that Bangladesh went its own seperate way ...``
``That is how Pakistan only has 3% minorities...``
}}}}
A few clarifications:
1. In my post #45, I never took into account Bengal`s (Bangaldesh`s) population, since I was talking about PRESENT DAY Pakistan. So YLH, I didnt forget that Bangladesh is no longer part of Paksitan, cool down. I just referred to Punjab and Sindh (Refer to my post #45).
2. I did mention Indian Punjab, thus demonstrating that I was taking into account the fact that those numbers from 1931 census were for undivided Punjab. YLH somehow overlooked that too.
OK here is data about the 1931 census from Hamza Alavi`s thesis again (refer to post #45 for URL etc).
Census, 1931
TOTAL POPULATION (IN MILLIONS)
U.P Punjab Bengal Sindh
Total: 48.4 28.5 51.0 3.9
Muslims 7.2 14.9 27.8 2.8
Muslims % (14.8%) (52.4%) (54.5%) (72.8%)
Ok so from this data:
1. Pre-Partition Sindh had 28% minority population.
*Pakistan`s current population 144 million
* Sindh accounts for 20% of Pakistan`s current population which is
MINORITIES AS A PERCENTAGE OF POPULATION IN PRE-PARTITION PAKISTAN-OF-TODAY
YLH says::
{{{{{
``Had you read Hamza Alavi`s book properly you would also discern that much like myself, he is also talking about the original Pakistan plan which would have all of Punjab and Bengal. These provinces were partitioned in 1947.``
``Do you also forget that Pakistan was also partitioned later on .. Bangladesh I believe has 15 % minority Hindu population.``
``Please atleast consult some books before you check the figures. Had the Punjab and Bengal given to us entirely, we would still have only 32 to 35 % minorities but they werent given to us entirely.``
``Then Bangladesh went its own way .. taking away a chunk of our minorities..... so the present day percentage of minorities is only based on facts.``
``and finally he forgets that Bangladesh went its own seperate way ...``
``That is how Pakistan only has 3% minorities...``
}}}}
A few clarifications:
1. In my post #45, I never took into account Bengal`s (Bangaldesh`s) population, since I was talking about PRESENT DAY Pakistan. So YLH, I didnt forget that Bangladesh is no longer part of Paksitan, cool down. I just referred to Punjab and Sindh (Refer to my post #45).
2. I did mention Indian Punjab, thus demonstrating that I was taking into account the fact that those numbers from 1931 census were for undivided Punjab. YLH somehow overlooked that too.
OK here is data about the 1931 census from Hamza Alavi`s thesis again (refer to post #45 for URL etc).
Census, 1931
TOTAL POPULATION (IN MILLIONS)
U.P Punjab Bengal Sindh
Total: 48.4 28.5 51.0 3.9
Muslims 7.2 14.9 27.8 2.8
Muslims % (14.8%) (52.4%) (54.5%) (72.8%)
Ok so from this data:
1. Pre-Partition Sindh had 28% minority population.
*Pakistan`s current population 144 million
* Sindh accounts for 20% of Pakistan`s current population which is
#86 Posted by satyavadi on September 29, 2000 12:46:01 pm
Jntuece99:
Hey there,
Good post #81. Thanks for the appreciation, I am really not that witty or anything. Its just YLHs and Krashids :)
Yes, I would also be interested in knowing you. Can you write to me at kewal23@yahoo.com?
BTW, what you doing, going outside Calcutta, leaving Bengalis alone to deal with both Bhagirathi and Kali at the same time? :)
Satyavadi
Hey there,
Good post #81. Thanks for the appreciation, I am really not that witty or anything. Its just YLHs and Krashids :)
Yes, I would also be interested in knowing you. Can you write to me at kewal23@yahoo.com?
BTW, what you doing, going outside Calcutta, leaving Bengalis alone to deal with both Bhagirathi and Kali at the same time? :)
Satyavadi
#87 Posted by satyavadi on September 29, 2000 12:46:01 pm
Urstruly #85:
I really dont think I need any of those, not even the Medicine Man thinks so. Else he would have pronounced his prescription.
I guess the quacks should leave the more serious things to the real doctors, Urstruly :)
Happy Cooking Conspiracy Theories.
Satyavadi
I really dont think I need any of those, not even the Medicine Man thinks so. Else he would have pronounced his prescription.
I guess the quacks should leave the more serious things to the real doctors, Urstruly :)
Happy Cooking Conspiracy Theories.
Satyavadi
#88 Posted by satyavadi on September 29, 2000 12:46:01 pm
scout #53:
{
*yawn *
YLH and Satyavadi, I suggest you two go read Harish Nambiar`s poems.
}
Well, make YLH agree first, I will follow. Promise.
BTW, aapko humaari itni yaad aati hain, tau why dont you join us here :) It can only get better :)
sb #52:
You gotta get people back on the earth at times. Too high an elevation for too long is not too good for their healths. And our peace :). What says thou?
krashid #60:
What is Azmat?
Satyavadi
{
*yawn *
YLH and Satyavadi, I suggest you two go read Harish Nambiar`s poems.
}
Well, make YLH agree first, I will follow. Promise.
BTW, aapko humaari itni yaad aati hain, tau why dont you join us here :) It can only get better :)
sb #52:
You gotta get people back on the earth at times. Too high an elevation for too long is not too good for their healths. And our peace :). What says thou?
krashid #60:
What is Azmat?
Satyavadi
#89 Posted by sac on September 29, 2000 12:46:01 pm
re #62:
Shankar:
Thanks for the post. It was an interesting read. And I concur with your views on North Indians being better looking than others. I remember sitting outside with an Sindhi friend in the village a few years back and trying to figure out which country/community each passing by desi belonged too. After about 20 minutes of that useless exercise my friend remarked. ``Lets not do that anymore. Every good looking one is either from Pakistan or North India. It can`t possibly be true!!``. I still wonder....
later
-sac
Shankar:
Thanks for the post. It was an interesting read. And I concur with your views on North Indians being better looking than others. I remember sitting outside with an Sindhi friend in the village a few years back and trying to figure out which country/community each passing by desi belonged too. After about 20 minutes of that useless exercise my friend remarked. ``Lets not do that anymore. Every good looking one is either from Pakistan or North India. It can`t possibly be true!!``. I still wonder....
later
-sac
#90 Posted by fairdinkum on September 29, 2000 12:48:47 pm
PS: Sadhna, yes, I was very disappointed today. Slightly depressed too… I was really looking forward to my trip. and you know it was for work too…but they still rejected me… they have no objections on goras going there…. That was really embarrassing for me ……. I guess I should have rang Advani first :)
#91 Posted by Urstruly on September 29, 2000 12:56:42 pm
RE: Satyavadi # 89
See how a smile can work wonders. If others dont have one you give it to them :)
Fairdinkum:
That was just one of my covers-what you know ;)
See how a smile can work wonders. If others dont have one you give it to them :)
Fairdinkum:
That was just one of my covers-what you know ;)
#92 Posted by veeresh on September 29, 2000 3:07:56 pm
Actually I have it on good authority from the neighbourhood shaka that almost 80% of all Muslims in Pakistan are actually Hindus who changed name and religion after 1947 to grab land and camels and stuff like that . . . and that these guys are just waiting for a paradrop of khaki chaddees all over Karachi and Lahore and Multan and Changaa Mangaa and also Peshawar, Pindi and Kabul to come out true Hindus to make Akhand Bharat a reality from Teheran and baghdad on one side to hanoi on the other not to forget Solomon islands and Madagascar as well as Antartica, because proof has been found that Hinduism was the state religion in Socotra from where it went to Antarctica so all you real Muslim pakistanis on chowk need to start getting really really worried alternately you can buy your own khaki chaddees . . .
#93 Posted by the_happy_one on September 29, 2000 4:27:14 pm
Re: Pathetic conspiracy theorists
Some people here have suggested that judging by the frequency of her responses, Sadhana must be working 60 hrs/ Wk and on the payroll of the dreaded RAW.
A few interesting statistics gleaned from the Rahil Khan board:
Total no. of responses: 577
Responses by Sadhana: 38
Responses by Ylh: 164
Ylh contributed almost 30% of the responses!!
If Sadhana`s responses can be construed as 60 hrs/ wk of work then Ylh`s would be 259 hrs/ Wk... that`s a full time staff of 6 people! Looks like the ISI has a whole cell devoted to Chowk headed by Ylh!
And another thing....
This time I wont use the expression `once and for all` because I know I am going to have to say this over and over again because nobody seems to get it.
This is not a Pakistani site.
OK ylh.... for your benefit... again:
This is not a Pakistani site.
So please stop asking Indians to leave this `Pakistani` site. What gives you more authority here than Sadhana? Why don`t you leave?
Regards.
P.S. Nobody but the Chowk Staff has any authority on who uses this space. Nobody! And the reason why they let Indians interact here is not because they are dildar generous Pakistanis who let the poor Indians come here out of the goodness of their heart! The reason why they let Indians interact here is the same one why they let Pakistanis interact here. Because here everyone is welcome. Is that tough to swallow?
Some people here have suggested that judging by the frequency of her responses, Sadhana must be working 60 hrs/ Wk and on the payroll of the dreaded RAW.
A few interesting statistics gleaned from the Rahil Khan board:
Total no. of responses: 577
Responses by Sadhana: 38
Responses by Ylh: 164
Ylh contributed almost 30% of the responses!!
If Sadhana`s responses can be construed as 60 hrs/ wk of work then Ylh`s would be 259 hrs/ Wk... that`s a full time staff of 6 people! Looks like the ISI has a whole cell devoted to Chowk headed by Ylh!
And another thing....
This time I wont use the expression `once and for all` because I know I am going to have to say this over and over again because nobody seems to get it.
This is not a Pakistani site.
OK ylh.... for your benefit... again:
This is not a Pakistani site.
So please stop asking Indians to leave this `Pakistani` site. What gives you more authority here than Sadhana? Why don`t you leave?
Regards.
P.S. Nobody but the Chowk Staff has any authority on who uses this space. Nobody! And the reason why they let Indians interact here is not because they are dildar generous Pakistanis who let the poor Indians come here out of the goodness of their heart! The reason why they let Indians interact here is the same one why they let Pakistanis interact here. Because here everyone is welcome. Is that tough to swallow?
#94 Posted by Urstruly on September 29, 2000 5:33:53 pm
RE: ali1# 69
There is no shred of doubt left in my mind man. Reply# 95 is worth noting.
There is no shred of doubt left in my mind man. Reply# 95 is worth noting.
#95 Posted by sadna on September 29, 2000 5:59:25 pm
I`m not sure what has suddenly made me the `Hidden Hindu` in the recent interacts, but here is something they taught us in spy school(the enemy guys across the aisle used to chant it too)
``Muhabbat ki baazi me, tab lutf aaye
Na tum maat khaao na hum maat khaaye`n``
-someone else
Something to do with not ending up with MAD they said.
Sadhana
``Muhabbat ki baazi me, tab lutf aaye
Na tum maat khaao na hum maat khaaye`n``
-someone else
Something to do with not ending up with MAD they said.
Sadhana
#96 Posted by Urstruly on September 29, 2000 7:50:32 pm
RE: Sadna
Atleast you take a joke like a man :)
Atleast you take a joke like a man :)
#97 Posted by ylh on September 29, 2000 8:52:31 pm
Satyavadi
You arguing baselessly. Yes the undivided Punjab had 48% minority population...
NWFP had almost close 99% Muslim Population.
Baluchistan had 100% Muslim population. Sindh had
close to 75% Muslim population...
Adding up the prepartition Punjab province, Sindh Province, NWFP, and Baluchistan had ``71%`` Muslim population. So the total minority population in in the state of Pakistan would have been 29% ... had
PUNJAB stayed entirely with Pakistan. Now when Punjab was partitioned, a majority of Non Muslims
who by an estimate would have made up 10% of west Pakistan or the current Pakistan ... left for India... The remaining are what we have today.
Unlike what you want to believe, no we didnot start finishing off our minorities... I believe the charge is more valid in the case of Ahmadis
(who till then were seen as Muslims atleast by the constitution and also according to Jinnah).
Satyavadi you know what, I ll let bygones be bygones... I invite you to visit me in Pakistan and I ll show you around. You can judge for yourself the so called ``hatred`` and ``bias`` in Pakistan ... I believe you know my email address.
I ll take you to Nankana sahib, ranjeet singh`s tomb, Hassan Abdal, all the Hindu temples you want to see... and the churches... you will be able to judge for yourself.
Are you just going to turn the other cheek or will you in future (not within this year though I have a lot to do) choose to give me a chance to show you hospitality mine and Pakistan`s ,
Yours sincerely
Yasser Hamdani
You arguing baselessly. Yes the undivided Punjab had 48% minority population...
NWFP had almost close 99% Muslim Population.
Baluchistan had 100% Muslim population. Sindh had
close to 75% Muslim population...
Adding up the prepartition Punjab province, Sindh Province, NWFP, and Baluchistan had ``71%`` Muslim population. So the total minority population in in the state of Pakistan would have been 29% ... had
PUNJAB stayed entirely with Pakistan. Now when Punjab was partitioned, a majority of Non Muslims
who by an estimate would have made up 10% of west Pakistan or the current Pakistan ... left for India... The remaining are what we have today.
Unlike what you want to believe, no we didnot start finishing off our minorities... I believe the charge is more valid in the case of Ahmadis
(who till then were seen as Muslims atleast by the constitution and also according to Jinnah).
Satyavadi you know what, I ll let bygones be bygones... I invite you to visit me in Pakistan and I ll show you around. You can judge for yourself the so called ``hatred`` and ``bias`` in Pakistan ... I believe you know my email address.
I ll take you to Nankana sahib, ranjeet singh`s tomb, Hassan Abdal, all the Hindu temples you want to see... and the churches... you will be able to judge for yourself.
Are you just going to turn the other cheek or will you in future (not within this year though I have a lot to do) choose to give me a chance to show you hospitality mine and Pakistan`s ,
Yours sincerely
Yasser Hamdani
#98 Posted by ylh on September 29, 2000 8:52:31 pm
Satyavadi
And by the way, I believe that there is a Hindoo fundoo conspiracy not a Hindu jewish conspiracy ..
Hindoo fundoo conspiracy suggests a devious alliance between Islamic and Hindu fundamentalists against Pakistan...
I had originally suggested it as a jest... but the more you read objective or even anti Pakistan history (eg Wilfred Cantfield Smith), you can observe it clearly...
I wonder what the great ``secular`` Mahatma was doing allying himself with the Islamic Fundamentalist ``Ahrar`` party against the ``Kafir-e-Azam`` Mr Jinnah????? in the early 30s.
Ref Cantfield`s book Modern Islam in India ...
Seriously the book is one heck of a biased opinionated crap but facts do betray the truth sometimes...
Anyway Mr Satyavadi .. my invitation is open to you.
Yasser Hamdani
And by the way, I believe that there is a Hindoo fundoo conspiracy not a Hindu jewish conspiracy ..
Hindoo fundoo conspiracy suggests a devious alliance between Islamic and Hindu fundamentalists against Pakistan...
I had originally suggested it as a jest... but the more you read objective or even anti Pakistan history (eg Wilfred Cantfield Smith), you can observe it clearly...
I wonder what the great ``secular`` Mahatma was doing allying himself with the Islamic Fundamentalist ``Ahrar`` party against the ``Kafir-e-Azam`` Mr Jinnah????? in the early 30s.
Ref Cantfield`s book Modern Islam in India ...
Seriously the book is one heck of a biased opinionated crap but facts do betray the truth sometimes...
Anyway Mr Satyavadi .. my invitation is open to you.
Yasser Hamdani
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