Love and Hate Online

TAhmed!

Aye- Si.

There is a story in recent newspaper in San Antonio Texas.

A fifteen year old, very talented girl thought that nobody can fool her. Very brilliant. Fell in love on net. Met her lover in private without informing anybody. The person much older than her age molested her and continued until the parents of girl came to know of it and intervened.

I think body language, eyes, way of talking, demeanour, personality etc are very important.

Although frauds happen in real life without computer and computer can lead to good relationship, but one has to take decision very thoughtfully and involving known people before proceeding further.

temporal

don`t know about ashraf, will ask him though.

regards

aakar patel

confession time...
i am a recovering irc-holic. i mean, my fingers used to twitch if i wasnt in a chat room...there is something very wonderful ( pathetic and loserish) about going into a (chat) room and having all sorts of nicks yelling (typing out) your name and meeting people and friends. its a wonderful medium to meet all sorts of great, geeky, freaky people. its like yer living `cheers` (where everybody knows your name). you go in fresh because it is totally based on your personality ( net personlity i suppose) and not on the way you look or present yourself. much too often people forget that they have that aspect to deal with also. i have broken four hearts and met two soul mates in chat rooms...which is why i stopped going :) it can be hazardous to one`s life.
most people don`t match up to their net personality. its the same on chowk. ive been told im more sassy on the net than in real life. i don`t think so but there are less things that prohibit you when typing. thank god for email and the net. ive met and interacted with so many people whom i would have gone through life never finding out about or getting to know better. its how i stay in touch with loved ones when abroad. its opened up a whole new venue in communication.
3 years and irc free...woo-wee.

Here`s my ``online fiasco story`` to add to the list:

Once there was a girl named Raveena (a classmate of mine) who met a Pakistani guy named Ahmed (a medical student abroad.) They formed a deep friendship over chat, which soon became romantic.

Ahmed came to visit Raveena every couple of months. She brought him to my home for dinner, and told my mother and I how her parents hated ``Muslim people.``

Pretty soon, Raveena told Ahmed that she could not live without him, etc. etc. Ahmed, on Raveena`s calling, dropped out of medical school and came to stay close to Raveena. Raveena dumped him in a week for an Indian classmate and told the story of how she ruined the life of her Pakistani boyfriend with glee.

Although Raveena was extremely cruel, I blame Ahmed for being so dumb.

Hmmmmmmmm

May be there is still hope.

Anybody know any good pickup lines on the net? :)

Zeenat:

Hope you forgive this intrusion. Rec`d this rather disturbing email today. It is self explanatory.

rgds,

t

_______________________________________________

September 28, 2000
Committee to Protect Journalists
330 Seventh Avenue -- 12th floorNew York, NY 10001

His Excellency Gen. Pervez Musharraf
Chief Executive, Islamic Republic of Pakistan
General Headquarters, Pakistani ArmyRawalpindi, Pakistan
Via Facsimile: 92-51-922-4206

Your Excellency:

The Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) is concerned by the threatening posture adopted by an army inspection team sent yesterday to the
headquarters of the Dawn Group of Newspapers at Haroon House in Karachi. The newspaper group includes some of Pakistan`s most influential and respected publications, including the English-language daily Dawn.

At around 10 a.m. on September 27, six military personnel arrived at the Dawn Group offices, along with a representative of the provincial electrical inspector and three engineers from the Karachi Electric Supply Corporation (KESC). The officers insisted on carrying their weapons, despite Dawn`s security requirements, and threatened to disconnect the building`s
electrical supply if they were not granted immediate access to all parts of the premises.

Though the involvement of the armed forces in electrical inspections has become routine in Pakistan-the practice began under the civilian
administration of former prime minister Nawaz Sharif-journalists at Dawn told CPJ that this inspection appeared to be an effort to harass and
intimidate the staff.

According to a statement published in today`s edition of Dawn: ``The high-handed manner in which the inspection by the army monitoring team was
carried out left the indelible impression that a punitive raid rather than an electrical inspection was the basic objective of the operation.``

The statement noted that the timing of the inspection was especially suspicious: ``There have been sufficient warnings over the last few days to publishers, editors, and journalists of the Dawn Group that the authorities were preparing for something `significant.` ``

Dawn journalists told CPJ that administration officials were particularly angered by a September 12 Dawn article entitled ``Free Press: Is Musharraf Having Second Thoughts?`` In the article, senior correspondent Shaheen Sehbai
noted that Your Excellency, on a recent visit to the United States, had exhibited a ``growing impatience with the Pakistani press . . . [complaining that] it was irresponsible, corrupt, unpatriotic at times, and not pursuing
healthy journalism.``

On September 18, Sehbai received an e-mail warning from a colleague, saying, ``The entire Information Ministry is up in arms against you over your Washington piece on the CE [Chief Executive]. . . So keep your head low, but
keep your pen up. And watch your back.``

The following day, September 19, Dawn received a letter from Javed Jabbar, minister of information and media development in Your Excellency`s
government. In the letter, Jabbar claimed that Sehbai`s article contained malicious and defamatory accusations against officials in the Information Ministry. He threatened legal action if the newspaper did not print a clarification.

Editors and reporters at Dawn say that in recent months they have received many more anonymous letters and phone calls than usual, accusing the
newspaper of publishing material that is against Pakistan`s national interests.

As a nonpartisan organization of journalists dedicated to the defense of our colleagues around the world, CPJ is troubled by these ominous signals that the Pakistani press may be coming under threat. Accordingly, we urge Your Excellency to issue a public statement reaffirming your professed commitment to respect media freedom. In the absence of constitutional protections and democratic safeguards, journalists in Pakistan are particularly vulnerable to arbitrary abuses of state power. CPJ hopes that your administration will not use its formidable powers to control the press, as previous military regimes have done.

Sincerely,
Ann K. Cooper
Executive Director

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Pakistan Press FoundationSouth Asian Journalists Association
American Society of Newspaper EditorsAmnesty International
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Canadian Journalists for Free ExpressionFreedom ForumFreedom House
Human Rights WatchIndex on CensorshipInternational Center for Journalists
International Federation of JournalistsInternational PEN
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Rights, and LaborAlain Modoux, Director, UNESCO Freedom of Expression Program
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Aaker Patel met and proposed to his wife all on the internet. fRog goDdesS says some of her classmates also met their future spouses on the internet. I still think that these are exceptions, and all men are not as honorable as Aaker obviously is. For all you know, it may be a dog proposing to you over the internet.

This article is so true. My friend met this Indian chick a few months back on the net and they got really involved.My friend was chatting at least 18 hours everyday. Things got so hot that he decided to meet the girl in Singapore. They somehow managed to do that and spent 3 or 4 days together. My friend came back and decided not to continue the relationship. We were so relieved. We didn`t want him to marry an Indian. But here is the funny part. The girl threatened to commit suicide and her parents who lived in the UK had to intervene. It seems she was in psychiatric care for a while.

The net maybe good for certain individuals and bad for others but one should not try and get too friendly with ones sworn enemies. It taught my friend a lesson he won`t forget anytime soon.

i dont know what to say except that your article really hits home.

somthing like this just recently happened with me too though not a romance with an anonymous person but someone who i had known nearly 4 yrs ago. we started chatting randomly and emailing each other nearly 40 - 50 mails a day... and spoke of everything under the sun....and the issue of marriage came up and we kinda settled it to cuz he said that he wanted to come and meet my parents as he was intereseted...

anyway to cut a long story short he kept delaying it.... this whole relationship went on for 10 months....and then when i told him i was comig to his part of the world...i think he kinda panicked...BIG time!

and the whole relationship was passed of as a figment of my imagination... :)

so I IMAGINED his proposal, his saying that he wanted to come and meet my parents, IMAGINED all the emails that he`d been sending for all these months, the telephone conversations...EVERYTHING!!

anyway...thought your email interesting and hence decided to send my story in too.. :)

so all i can say to everyone out there is BE CAREFUL! am not saying dont get into relationships...am just saying even if u DO know the person that does not guarantee ANYTHING! the person can still very easily take u for a ride!

Aakar Patel :

That was too good. You might then forever be in love with Internet.

Temporal:

Pyar kiya tho darna Kya..? Par it is better to be a bit careful about the girl`s brother and mother.

Pyaar ke dushman hai hai...



I went on a blind date once with the help of yahoo messenger. We had a lovely time until she said that she was engaged and only wanted to have some fun in a different way. Never met her again.

Internet- I just love it.

Pullu

aakar patel #7:

First, may I indulge you and others reading this into a few moments of silence paying homage to the memory of former Canadian Prime Minister Pierre Elliott Trudeau who passed away 1510hours yesterday?

He was perhaps the last of the ‘philosopher-kings’ always suave, eloquent in TWO languages while other political leaders were not even in one, who was seldom afraid to speak his mind.
Thanks.

------moving along ---- this is not the occasion to remind you that I said ‘far more’ ....CONGRATULATIONS .. you old so-and-so!---you roped her in you devil BEFORE meeting her --- yeah, right! --- didn’t you sent in company sleuths after her and you knew who she was but were afraid once she looks you over she’d say NO in no uncertain terms so you proposed BEFORE meeting her --- now this IS the type of story I will secretly assign two of my best reporters -- first one would be an old cynical geeser and the second one a starry eyed hungry cub to do a in-depth. ;)

Forget M/s Tyabji, Cynicalji, Morarji & Co.

How about:
Jab pyar kiya tou darna ....
Jab pyar kisi say hota hai...

regards,

PS: Is Ashraf related to the senior Engineer?

temporal #1

``While you have accentuated more on the positive stories, there are far more horrible and disgusting stories floating around... I know of more relationships that have broken up (partly) because of the Net than ones made.``

temporal, as someone who met his wife-to-be in cyberspace and asked her to marry him before meeting, i can only say this to you: tyeb ali, pyar ka dushman hai-hai.

regards

aakar patel

hmmm..still too early to form an opinion about the utility of the Internet.

People in different socities and geographical locations and at times from a common background will have different opinions about this issue...I feel I need not elaborate on this:)

You didn`t mention the hatred being generated by/on the net as highlighted by your article title.

Anyways,I have been reading your articles on chowk and occassionaly in some Pakistani computer magazines and generally find them to be interesting...

regards,

Taimur.

Of my class that graduated 3 years ago, 4 of them are married to people they met on the net. I remember that not too long ago the telephone was a similar medium. Our society has few opportunites for the sexes to interact and we choose to make fun of net encounters only because of its novelty value. I doubt 5 years hence this will even be an issue; but even if it is - it will be because of reasons to be found outside the colourful monitor but in people`s homes.

yeah yeah yeah.....so what`s new?

I`m sorry, but this article wasn`t especially insightful or original. I`ve read articles similar to this numerous times in other magazines.

Well written though.

No offense to Zeejah, I`ve liked your previous work.

About online relationships, it`s like walking blindfolded on a beam of a skyscraper, you know how to walk, but you don`t know where you`re going, or where you stand and when you`ll fall.

scout

Zeejah: Good to see you back on chowk. Your article provides some interesting examples of romance flowering thru the net. Here are a couple of devaluated rupee worth of thoughts: What happened after these people met though? Did they live happily ever after, or did they then proceed to make new friends on the net? Either way, I dont think the net is going to contribute much for people in the romance department beyong creating opportunities for romance among socially challenged or reclusive people (like the nun).

Now how about using the net for a meeting of the minds, rather than of hearts? The more there are, the better it gets and the sky is the limit.

So my vote is for seeking romance in real life and keeping the net for trying to bring peace and harmony and progress in the world. Amen! :-)