Love and Hate Online

TAhmed!

Aye- Si.

There is a story in recent newspaper in San Antonio Texas.

A fifteen year old, very talented girl thought that nobody can fool her. Very brilliant. Fell in love on net. Met her lover in private without informing anybody. The person much older than her age molested her and continued until the parents of girl came to know of it and intervened.

I think body language, eyes, way of talking, demeanour, personality etc are very important.

Although frauds happen in real life without computer and computer can lead to good relationship, but one has to take decision very thoughtfully and involving known people before proceeding further.

krashid #5 bhai, itna ghusa??

re litmus

``one should not try and get too friendly with ones sworn enemies``

trust a desi to be superficial. trust him to be bigoted. and trust his education to be futile. so the relationship didnt work out. maybe reality wasn`t as attractive as the virtual image. oh, heck maybe they had just read too much into the whole thing. but why must the indian/pakistani thing be dragged into the whole sordid mess. ugh. and here i was thinking - progress - heres one article you couldnt drag the cross border bashing into. what a waste of space.

p.

temporal

ashraf says: ``no, no, no!`` re any relation with asghar ali.

regards

aakar patel

zehra #16, ``ive been told im more sassy on the net than in real life.``

I hear you. I`ve been told I`m a man countless times :).

``i don`t think so but there are less things that prohibit you when typing. thank god for email and the net.``

You said it! That`s the beauty of it all.

Awakening Hopeful #18:

Shukria!

Bibi ek baat bataaiN gar aap bura na maaneiN? Bold face ya capital words maiN liknay ko ‘net pur aisa samjha jata hay jaisay koi bad-tameez shuksh chilla raha ho. Yeh chowk tou hamari aapki baithak hay.

Initially I had some misgivings. Dawn Group is powerful and big and can fend for itself. But the powers that be in Pakistan should be aware that they do not have a carte blanche to misrule. And relative press freedom is an important part of guaranteeing that. It is indeed a pity that others who are usually so concerned haven’t expressed themselves more vociferously.

Please keep us posted of further developments.

scout #22 (and zehra #16)

zehra has just moved into nyc. You two should meet over some mean aloo-bhujiya. She is quite an interesting person in real life. Will give her your address.

aakar patel #21

Thanks. Swing a Niagara homage after the Big Event and visit/stay with us. When is the Big Moment? First time around?

love & regards,

temporal

Good lord, even the internet hasn`t helped my love life.. is there NO HOPE? :-)

Scout.. Raveena is an EX-friend, I trust?

Temporal and Awakening Hopeful.

I am with you on freedom of press.

Let me remind you. When Nawaz Sharif was launching attack on Jang newspaper, and Mir Shakil-ur-Rehman wanted solidarity of his workers, he announced that he will take care of grievances of workers after resolution of conflict with Government. It was related to wages etc.

We should know the current conflict between newspaper owners and Government (Omar Asghar) regarding seventh wage commission award.

You should also know that our Beaureaucracy is intent upon failing any system in which they have to relinquish power and therefore try to create rift between Government and different groups.

I think Dawn Newspaper is making a mound out of mole (considering the overall facts in this matter) to pressurize Government on Seventh Wage Commission Award. That is my sincere analysis on this situation.

Zehra, scout:

I agree with you about finding it easier to communicate with people through the net than other media. Being a tiny person with youthful looks, I`m often ignored as some silly teenager who`s got nothing useful to say. I`ve always found it difficult to get people to consider what I have to contribute without resorting to dramatic attention seeking measures. The net has made my life SO much easier - less pressure on my already strained vocal cords.

And I also find it easier to express myself through writing than speaking. I`ve grown closer to so many of my friends thanks to icq and e-mails than I would have otherwise. Same goes for strangers as well. Fewer inhibitions. And fewer barriers - I`m judged on MY terms, not on preconceived notions of others based on attire, accent, looks and whatnot.

Lubna #26:

“Dear Abby:

I have this dilemma. I cannot relate to people. For instance I have these oedipal feelings for this bird ......not a chick....that has lately been ..........”

Damn! Stop being so introspective here. See what I am being reminded of? ;) Allow me to introduce the special corner of Chowk -- Ask the Doctor --- don’t know if Alia is still there. Such posts should go there. No. forget it. Your post is rather harmless.

But we do know some folks here who need serious maintenance work done in the (almost) hollow cavity between the ears, don’t we? (Between us, M thinks I should be a serious candidate!)

Seriously, though, we need to introduce hu(wo)man-ness here. Your solo effort should be lauded. Most posters comes across as wooden --- aloof --- mechanical --- definitely not hu(wo)man.
Where is passion? Where is zest? Where are feelings I can almost hear (Ralph Waldo) Emerson asking?

tahmed321 (ironically) was lamenting about the two dimensional aspects of posts. Part of it can be attributed to the mechanical nature of responding -- the keyboard -- the time it takes to deliver the message and receive the response -- the absence of body language ---- the physical presence ---though some if not all of it can be removed by the language ---emoticons -- words and phrases when used suitably to reaffirm and accentuate a point --- and the comfort level with the use of the language. (I think the last is a serious concern.)

krashid #25:

Thank you for the insight.

Assad_K #24:

There is help round the corner. Heard of virtual-sex?

love & regards,

t

Zehra,

T-bhai told me you moved to NYC recently. Although I`m an hour`s train ride to the east, from Penn Station, I`d love for you to come visit me. I`ll pick you up at the station. Don`t hesistate to email me at jannat_bibi@yahoo.com.

I`m not as rude as I appear to be on Chowk. :)

I`ll even lend you my Britney Spears CD. Do you have the NSYNC one?

Assad_K #24, ``Scout.. Raveena is an EX-friend, I trust?``

She was never a very good friend, but I`m still nice to her just because I feel she has a lot of ``issues.``

Lubna #26, ``Being a tiny person with youthful

looks, I`m often ignored as some silly teenager who`s got nothing useful to say.``

I`m not as tiny as Kate Moss, but I have the same problem as you do. It helps speaking from the bottom of your stomach.

`` I`ve grown closer to so many of my friends thanks to icq and e-mails than I would have otherwise.``

ICQ say bach kay raho. It`s very hacker friendly.

One retard opened my CD drive and casually wrote on my screen, ``here`s a cup holder.``

BTW What was the point of narrating all those anecdotes....

Dear Shakir: Thanks for responding to my questions. Your responses are quite inadequate, unfortunately, as follows:

On your point (a), you say ``PTCL was matching ACL`s contribution``. If one accepts what you say, then this means PTCL is providing $4.5 million. But then PTCL and ACL together put in $9 m, and this leaves a gap of $21 million (total investment being $30 million, per your article). Who is this annonymous sugar-daddy who is putting in two-thirds of the investment that you ignore in your article and ignore in responding to my explicit question? I can only conclude that you are not interested in facts, and are just putting in a couple of numbers to create the impression of investigative reporting in what is basically a jumble of misconceptions and rhetoric.

On (b), if printed matter was indeed used in analyzing the financial aspects of the deal, then whoever used it did, for reasons described above, did a shoddy job of presenting the figures.

On (c), if ``ACL was contacted via e-mail but there was no response``, then this should have been mentioned in the article. And from your lack of response on my question regarding contacting the privatization commission I assume they were not contacted at all. And yet, it is the privatization commission that is most directly answerable to the public on this question. I find it astounding that you leave out basic facts, you leave out the point of view of other concerned parties, and respond (later on in your post) to gfm by saying that if there are other aspects he should let you know.

I would welcome investigative reporting like this. As gfm correctly notes, responsible journalism is an important foundation for a civilized society. But your article does nothing more than provide public forum for presenting the point of view of a bunch of PTCL bureaucrats jealously guarding any intrusion into their empire.

In future, if you wish to develop a career as an investigative journalist, I would suggest doing your homework and presenting facts from which the reader can draw his conclusions.

scout...you dont have to pick me up dear...we can meet somewhere ( she says warily...)...
umm..you Are joking about the britney thing right?

i`ll email.

lubna: i thought it was the nurse getting into the doctors car...that hot older man...his name was with an r..i cant recall now..the drama with `kabacha` in it. they are all merging now but im pretty sure it was not ankahee..ankahee had the hero/heroine accident intro when she dropped her file and their papers got mixed together..

:)