Zeejah September 27, 2000
#65 Posted by musafir on October 6, 2000 7:56:55 am
Krashid Reply #66
Khalid Ali is the name of the poet.Hope that helps.
Regards
Khalid Ali is the name of the poet.Hope that helps.
Regards
#66 Posted by Urstruly on October 6, 2000 10:13:02 am
Most of the people have telltale signs that they will make it big; then hardly very few of them ever do. It is not that most of them start beleiving that they will fail; it is the fact that they fail to beleive in themselves.
#67 Posted by Awakening Hopef on October 7, 2000 12:19:58 am
to maia,
sorry to sound patronizing but Maia, it is important to understand the power of journalism and what it takes to reach the ever evasive totality of truth -
Just reiterating my earlier reply to the author:
``Your article is well written and we do need more people like you in Pakistan uncovering the truth and doing investigative journalism. I have immense respect for people like you who are at least doing their best and actually making a change in their country
But it is absolutely essential that all facts are taken into account before insinuations are made. Good lives of people can be ruined with the touch of a pen. The article is merely a skeleton that needs more data, logic and conclusive proof to back up its accusations``
sorry to sound patronizing but Maia, it is important to understand the power of journalism and what it takes to reach the ever evasive totality of truth -
Just reiterating my earlier reply to the author:
``Your article is well written and we do need more people like you in Pakistan uncovering the truth and doing investigative journalism. I have immense respect for people like you who are at least doing their best and actually making a change in their country
But it is absolutely essential that all facts are taken into account before insinuations are made. Good lives of people can be ruined with the touch of a pen. The article is merely a skeleton that needs more data, logic and conclusive proof to back up its accusations``
#68 Posted by tahmed321 on October 7, 2000 11:27:22 am
temporal: I read the House of Vices story from Dawn that you posted. Actually I dont think it is the mullahs alone who should be concerned about the situation, but everyone. I am glad that Dawn decided to report on this. I also have read about some organizations in Pakistan that are trying to bring about prison reforms in Pakistan, but obviously this is not enough.
#69 Posted by hamidm on October 7, 2000 6:24:23 pm
............. get a grip on yourself ! all the net is good for is ranting and raving and letting your unadulterated incoherent thoughts dribble onto the keyboard and out in garbled bits and bytes to annoy, pester, and irk those who take themselves seriously ........... that is why i resent the pompous temporal so much - he, the pathetic little grammarian, wants us to put a brake on our thoughts .... he wants us - we who don`t care to know the difference between conjunction and preposition - to write perfect english with periods and commas and hyphens and this and that ......... he who stands between us and the cathartic joy of letting it all out in one relieving diarrhetic deluge of words .....
.............. and then there are those who cruise the net looking for love and friendship and godknowswhat .......... `` a bunch of loosers ``, as my seven year old would say ...... get a life, get a dog, get pregnant, or simply get drunk ............ do something - but for god`s sake stop using the net for things that can only be done in flesh and blood ..... can`t stand these.... these perverts ... these voyeurs on the net who are too cheap to give out their credit card numbers, or pay a therapist, and instead lurk in feee chat rooms - looking for love and intimacy and god in all the wrong places ..............
............. did i manage to insult someone out there - good, because that`s what the net is good for ...... nana nana boo boo .........etiquettes should be reserved for the dining room and the ante room - so let`s cut loose on the net and piss off temporal and his soul-mate sadna.....
.............. and then there are those who cruise the net looking for love and friendship and godknowswhat .......... `` a bunch of loosers ``, as my seven year old would say ...... get a life, get a dog, get pregnant, or simply get drunk ............ do something - but for god`s sake stop using the net for things that can only be done in flesh and blood ..... can`t stand these.... these perverts ... these voyeurs on the net who are too cheap to give out their credit card numbers, or pay a therapist, and instead lurk in feee chat rooms - looking for love and intimacy and god in all the wrong places ..............
............. did i manage to insult someone out there - good, because that`s what the net is good for ...... nana nana boo boo .........etiquettes should be reserved for the dining room and the ante room - so let`s cut loose on the net and piss off temporal and his soul-mate sadna.....
#70 Posted by scout on October 7, 2000 7:37:45 pm
hamidm #73,
tsk tsk tskkkkk....live and let live, everyone has his or her own perspective and priorities.
tsk tsk tskkkkk....live and let live, everyone has his or her own perspective and priorities.
#72 Posted by krashid on October 8, 2000 2:47:26 am
HamidM#73
you are ``Temporal Shikan``.
Any way awakening hopeful has come with real prophet Jibran for poor souls like us.
you are ``Temporal Shikan``.
Any way awakening hopeful has come with real prophet Jibran for poor souls like us.
#73 Posted by temporal on October 8, 2000 10:11:11 am
hamidm #73:
....et tu hamidm?....apologise if #64 struck a chord....couldn`t find anything appropriate in that dog-eared Dawood?....don`t blame you for being mortal....I resist throwing quotes around because (1) am busy writing the next ten chapters or (2) my interpretation differs from others .... (3) truth awakens in heart due to awareness not indoctrination...take your pick.....omnia vincit amor nos et cedamus amori...now back to thanksgiving .....t
............. get a grip on yourself ! all the net is good for is ranting and raving and letting your unadulterated incoherent thoughts dribble onto the keyboard and out in garbled bits and bytes to annoy, pester, and irk those who take themselves seriously ........... that is why i resent the pompous temporal so much - he, the pathetic little grammarian, wants us to put a brake on our thoughts .... he wants us - we who don`t care to know the difference between conjunction and preposition - to write perfect english with periods and commas and hyphens and this and that ......... he who stands between us and the cathartic joy of letting it all out in one relieving diarrhetic deluge of words .....
.............. and then there are those who cruise the net looking for love and friendship and godknowswhat .......... `` a bunch of loosers ``, as my seven year old would say ...... get a life, get a dog, get pregnant, or simply get drunk ............ do something - but for god`s sake stop using the net for things that can only be done in flesh and blood ..... can`t stand these.... these perverts ... these voyeurs on the net who are too cheap to give out their credit card numbers, or pay a therapist, and instead lurk in feee chat rooms - looking for love and intimacy and god in all the wrong places ..............
............. did i manage to insult someone out there - good, because that`s what the net is good for ...... nana nana boo boo .........etiquettes should be reserved for the dining room and the ante room - so let`s cut loose on the net and piss off temporal and his soul-mate sadna
....et tu hamidm?....apologise if #64 struck a chord....couldn`t find anything appropriate in that dog-eared Dawood?....don`t blame you for being mortal....I resist throwing quotes around because (1) am busy writing the next ten chapters or (2) my interpretation differs from others .... (3) truth awakens in heart due to awareness not indoctrination...take your pick.....omnia vincit amor nos et cedamus amori...now back to thanksgiving .....t
............. get a grip on yourself ! all the net is good for is ranting and raving and letting your unadulterated incoherent thoughts dribble onto the keyboard and out in garbled bits and bytes to annoy, pester, and irk those who take themselves seriously ........... that is why i resent the pompous temporal so much - he, the pathetic little grammarian, wants us to put a brake on our thoughts .... he wants us - we who don`t care to know the difference between conjunction and preposition - to write perfect english with periods and commas and hyphens and this and that ......... he who stands between us and the cathartic joy of letting it all out in one relieving diarrhetic deluge of words .....
.............. and then there are those who cruise the net looking for love and friendship and godknowswhat .......... `` a bunch of loosers ``, as my seven year old would say ...... get a life, get a dog, get pregnant, or simply get drunk ............ do something - but for god`s sake stop using the net for things that can only be done in flesh and blood ..... can`t stand these.... these perverts ... these voyeurs on the net who are too cheap to give out their credit card numbers, or pay a therapist, and instead lurk in feee chat rooms - looking for love and intimacy and god in all the wrong places ..............
............. did i manage to insult someone out there - good, because that`s what the net is good for ...... nana nana boo boo .........etiquettes should be reserved for the dining room and the ante room - so let`s cut loose on the net and piss off temporal and his soul-mate sadna
#74 Posted by hamidm on October 8, 2000 7:02:54 pm
temporal
..... actually i almost missed the ``house of vice`` thing ....do i have an excuse for such sordid behaviour ? of course i do ........ i am sure i can come up with an appropriate verse from the Koran or Bob Dylan or Jerry Garcia or Dave Matthews, that can provide some excuse for such inappropriate behaviour ........ for now i quote (or misquote) the warrior poet who inspires the Taliban into hyper-activity...... i have been told by extremely unreliable and inebriated sources that Khushal Khan Khattak once said :
there is a boy across the river
whose bottom is like a peach
alas, i cannot swim
..... and yes, i am ashamed of myself..... even the venerable Jerry Garcia wasn`t sure about this :
Just a song of Gomorrah, I wonder what they did there
Must`ve been a bad thing to get shot down for
I wonder how they blew it up or if they burned it down
Get out, get out Mr. Lot and don`t you turn around
..... actually i almost missed the ``house of vice`` thing ....do i have an excuse for such sordid behaviour ? of course i do ........ i am sure i can come up with an appropriate verse from the Koran or Bob Dylan or Jerry Garcia or Dave Matthews, that can provide some excuse for such inappropriate behaviour ........ for now i quote (or misquote) the warrior poet who inspires the Taliban into hyper-activity...... i have been told by extremely unreliable and inebriated sources that Khushal Khan Khattak once said :
there is a boy across the river
whose bottom is like a peach
alas, i cannot swim
..... and yes, i am ashamed of myself..... even the venerable Jerry Garcia wasn`t sure about this :
Just a song of Gomorrah, I wonder what they did there
Must`ve been a bad thing to get shot down for
I wonder how they blew it up or if they burned it down
Get out, get out Mr. Lot and don`t you turn around
#75 Posted by hamidm on October 8, 2000 7:02:54 pm
temporal
..... actually i almost missed the ``house of vice`` thing ....do i have an excuse for such sordid behaviour ? of course i do ........ i am sure i can come up with an appropriate verse from the Koran or Bob Dylan or Jerry Garcia or Dave Matthews, that can provide some excuse for such inappropriate behaviour ........ for now i quote (or misquote) the warrior poet who inspires the Taliban into hyper-activity...... i have been told by extremely unreliable and inebriated sources that Khushal Khan Khattak once said :
there is a boy across the river
whose bottom is like a peach
alas, i cannot swim
..... and yes, i am ashamed of myself..... even the venerable Jerry Garcia wasn`t sure about this :
Just a song of Gomorrah, I wonder what they did there
Must`ve been a bad thing to get shot down for
I wonder how they blew it up or if they burned it down
Get out, get out Mr. Lot and don`t you turn around
..... actually i almost missed the ``house of vice`` thing ....do i have an excuse for such sordid behaviour ? of course i do ........ i am sure i can come up with an appropriate verse from the Koran or Bob Dylan or Jerry Garcia or Dave Matthews, that can provide some excuse for such inappropriate behaviour ........ for now i quote (or misquote) the warrior poet who inspires the Taliban into hyper-activity...... i have been told by extremely unreliable and inebriated sources that Khushal Khan Khattak once said :
there is a boy across the river
whose bottom is like a peach
alas, i cannot swim
..... and yes, i am ashamed of myself..... even the venerable Jerry Garcia wasn`t sure about this :
Just a song of Gomorrah, I wonder what they did there
Must`ve been a bad thing to get shot down for
I wonder how they blew it up or if they burned it down
Get out, get out Mr. Lot and don`t you turn around
#76 Posted by zeejah on October 8, 2000 7:02:54 pm
It is very interesting that tho many ppl interact when i put up an article on chowk...very soon they start using it as a message board and my article takes a back seat...not that i mind...it is just an observation...and something i plan to do too, ...;)
temporal...i spoke to the gentleman yesterday, he left for islamabad and promised to let me know when he gets back..i`ll ask him to put in a few personal words for u too, if u like... btw...wot is your name? or should he write to temporal (with a small t)?...;)
temporal...i spoke to the gentleman yesterday, he left for islamabad and promised to let me know when he gets back..i`ll ask him to put in a few personal words for u too, if u like... btw...wot is your name? or should he write to temporal (with a small t)?...;)
#77 Posted by tahmed321 on October 8, 2000 7:02:54 pm
hamidm #73 Next time you get the urge to foam and dribble and offend...maybe you oughto lie down, close your eyes, take deep breaths and imagine yourself on a beach or someplace. Once you are exorcised of the urge, go back and read again from temporal`s posts on communication skills. Personally, I appreciate temporal`s efforts to establish some writing standards around here.
temporal: Please note how I rise to your defence, and in return please translate
``omnia vincit amor nos et cedamus amori`` that
you deliberately planted in your previous post to cause hamidm to start foaming and dribbling again.
temporal: Please note how I rise to your defence, and in return please translate
``omnia vincit amor nos et cedamus amori`` that
you deliberately planted in your previous post to cause hamidm to start foaming and dribbling again.
#78 Posted by PhoenixRising on October 9, 2000 4:48:36 am
Awakening hopeful [#61]
The nickname, yes, is in reference to Phoenix, the legendary bird that arises from it’s own ashes. There is somewhat of a parallel. No, it’s not literal but, in a sense, I have risen from the ashes of my past. Thanks for the appreciation.
Yes, whenever I can, I will offer my clean and fresh insights. Though, I am not from the West Coast. It shouldn’t really surprise you that I am in Karachi and have been since the day I was born. There are a few of us here with some intellect and emotional capacity. As for the way I write... I have a few books in the works... all I need is to complete them and find a publisher. *smile *
The nickname, yes, is in reference to Phoenix, the legendary bird that arises from it’s own ashes. There is somewhat of a parallel. No, it’s not literal but, in a sense, I have risen from the ashes of my past. Thanks for the appreciation.
Yes, whenever I can, I will offer my clean and fresh insights. Though, I am not from the West Coast. It shouldn’t really surprise you that I am in Karachi and have been since the day I was born. There are a few of us here with some intellect and emotional capacity. As for the way I write... I have a few books in the works... all I need is to complete them and find a publisher. *smile *
#79 Posted by Awakening Hopef on October 9, 2000 4:48:36 am
shammi #28 Thanks for the url for the article on Bangalore, which I read with interest. A couple of observations:
The article mentions 26 firms worldwide (13 in India) that have achieved Level 5 status in the SEI CMM. I recall about three years ago there were only 4, with at least one (the Motorola team) in India. I have not followed developments on the CMM lately, but looks like it is pretty hard to get. The more general ISO 9000 ``certification`` seems to be much more widely given out.
Also, Economist.com has a special section on the Indian economy this time, and is generally quite upbeat and also provides some interesting insights.
The article mentions 26 firms worldwide (13 in India) that have achieved Level 5 status in the SEI CMM. I recall about three years ago there were only 4, with at least one (the Motorola team) in India. I have not followed developments on the CMM lately, but looks like it is pretty hard to get. The more general ISO 9000 ``certification`` seems to be much more widely given out.
Also, Economist.com has a special section on the Indian economy this time, and is generally quite upbeat and also provides some interesting insights.
#80 Posted by zeejah on October 9, 2000 1:52:34 pm
By the way, since the chowkwalas dont mind wot one interacts about, how about checking out my articles etc on: http://www.themestream.com/gspd_browse/author/view_author_info.gsp?auth_id=23937&action=more
u can interact there too...;)
u can interact there too...;)
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