Beware of Ariel Morons and Protect Your Children!

Once again before I go to bed, My personal appeal goes out to Indians not to take offense to my post because I was merely demonstrating how bad Udaykumar`s article was and how faulty is criteria for an ariel Moron ... that even a saint like Gandhi jee would fit in it ...

Yasser Hamdani

I didnot say that Jallianwallah was caused by Gandhi ... I merely said that some students of History might blame it on Gandhi ... since Gandhi was the one who was advocating non cooperation .. and thats what got those people killed in Jallianwallah ... As far as I remember, and maybe I am wrong in quoting a movie as a source, but in the Movie Gandhi, the Sikh demonstrators stand their ground because of the ``Mahatma`s`` principle of Satyagraha...

My whole argument is that this incident doesnot qualify Gandhi as a moron...

I hope you understand...

Yasser Hamdani

Why don`t all you stop being ``Morons`` and quit dragging Gandhi and Jinnah into everything!

Feroz #21

Is the current problem in Israel can be seen as clipping of Israel by West. Background sale of sophisticated devices to China and later India and pressure by America to nullify it?

Since you are an IR person you can tell us more.

Or is it a sense of Arabs in the current rise in oil price with attendant pressure from West to unify for their common interest and involve other powers apart from USA in the region.

Your comment will be appreciated from your perspective.

sb #28

Your response to ylh is interesting where you said that although YLH put Gandhi with Jesus and Buddha. None of the Indian equated Jinnah with YLH version. i.e Ata-Turk etc.

I fully concur with you.

Does it mean something? Yes. Think what it means?

How many of the Indian InterActors! have actually read the whole thing???

I urge all Indians to read my post completely and see that I have not said anything against India or Gandhi .... this is what happens when you ``SKIM`` through the posts....

One thing is for sure, had Jinnah and Gandhi been alive today both of them would be Making strong statements against Israeli aggressor.... though the mode of advice would be different...

Gandhi would call upon the Palestinians to believe in God and hope for the eternal goodness of Israelis which would come out of seeing the suffering of the Palestinians....

Jinnah would call upon the Palestinians to fight tooth and nail for their land...

Yasser Hamdani

Re: Tahmed # 942

Yes well, you see this is what happened....

I was the first born to the Pharaoh who was cursed by the sun gods to die at the hands of his first offspring so unbeknownst to the great Pharaoh who would have rather allowed destiny to take its course, his more pragmatic second queen found it more expeditious to instruct her favorite maid to swath me in a bundle of blankets, stuff me in a straw basket and float me down the Nile which traces its way through the upper delta that houses the fisherman village which had a Chieftain named Salim Chappu, a name appropriately derived from his trade and his glorious possession of the Golden Chappu that had been passed on to him down the generations to sanctify his rightful position as the village chieftain that gave him first right to any discovered assets in the region which he judiciously used to commandeer my cherubic self that was one misty morning floating down the river and named me Latif Chappu and taught me the lessons of life and war which I later greatly utilized to slay my biological father the Pharaoh and slaughter his army in the mother of all wars at Al Kahira after which I migrated to the united states and am currently and ironically employed at a sea food restaurant on the fisherman`s wharf bussing empty bread bowls that used to contain shell fragment infested New England Clam Chowder!

So in a nutshell therefore, it is a tribe of some kind and yes... it has something to do with boating.

MacGupta

Had you read the whole thing you would know that I actually said the analysis falls apart because Gandhi was obviously well intentioned.

I have made it clear a number of times that I dont hate Gandhi ... he just not my type of a leader... I respect him as a humanist.

Yasser Hamdani

PAKISTAN FOR PALESTINE!!!!!

ylh: We have this character in our books - a demon king, no less, who despised the Lord so much that he would keep uttering His name to abuse Him. The story goes that because of the repeated chanting, he attained Nirvana. A hypothesis: Maybe your repeated invocations of Gandhi`s name and actions(as interpreted by you) are to that end?

And to save much back and forth later on, let me remind you that you conferred the sainthood on him, equating him to Jesus and Buddha on this site (if only to not compare him with your version of Jinnah), far as I remember none of the Indians did.

Ariel morons indeed. Capricorns are better (the antimorons), what with Mohammed Ali Jinnah, Mother T, Dr. Martin L King...

YLH insinuates Gandhi was responsible for the Jallianwala Bagh massacre and puts him in the same league of Ariel Morons as Stalin, Pol Pot and Hitler.

The obvious absurdity of all this prompted me to look into Satya`s pocket dictionary for YLHian Moron. Here is what I found.

YLHian Moron:

function: noun

:A selectively well read passionate, emotional, slightly childish youngster, with preconceived notions about everything and an impervious mind, barely succeeding in camouflaging his biases in the garb of objectivity.

RE: YLH #18

Dear Yassir,

I think you were able to read between the lines and deciphered the underlying message accurately. You also spelled out the undertones loud and clear. Smart man.

However, you should rephrase the Jalianwala incident differently despite the fact that you juxtaposed it correctly in the context and background of this article.

Avi is a good friend of mine, yes Avi is an Israeli, and a bright one at that, Avi is also
a war veteran of the yom Kippur war 73, he saw action on the Sinai, - Anway, after watching the final moments of this young boy, - i was furious,
Ariel Moron ( i guess the pun is intentional) again, - the general who lead the brutal invasion of lebanon, the butcher of sabra and shatilia,- again fermenting violence, killing children and young boys, - Avi was silent, he mused thoughtfully and agreed with my sentiments, - I was suprised. I am tired of war he said, all I want to do is live in peace, my grandparents survived Buchenwald he remarked, Ariel Moron is going to ruin it for all of us, he lamented. Now the victims of Auschwitz and Buchenwald spawn the Eichmanns and Heydrich`s of Sabra and shatila - well what a difference a generation makes, what would Simon Weisenthal and Elie Wiesel say about this I retorted. He was silent he admitted that there are Himmler in every nation.

After having castigated my friend Avi, - I wondered if he would do anything - anyway I thought at least his conscience was troubled, maybe there will be others like him in Israel. I felt pretty good about my self.

Avi didnot say anything that day, but the very next day, during lunch, he asks be about the Himmlers in my nation - I was taken aback , now Avi is a well read person, He knows about the nation that massacared people in the thousands in the name of Islam, - He knew about the rapes of thousands of young women and the murder of several
thousands of young men, - the right word is state sponsored genocide. He also knew of the nation that invented extra-judicial killings, and custodial deaths of their fellow countrymen, - fellow muslims no less, - well I mused and It was my turn to be silent.

In this day and age, - the Pinochets`, the Milosevics` and Kradjics` are running for cover,
is it not time for us to bring our murderers to justice - THe Tikka Khan`s, the Rao farman Ali`s, the Naseerullah Babers, - but then again moral courage is not our collective strength either,
political expediency is. The nation that rallies to the cry of religion and compassion also wants to convieniently forget the past. The boys of orangi or naukhali were never really one of our own. Let bygones be bygones. That day I did scrub my hands a bit harder than usual ......

ylh wrote :

6) Ariel Morons can create havoc and get innocent people killed for selfish reasons

Jallianwallah massacre can be argued to be one such incident.

Since the previous five points are aimed at Mahatma Gandhi, even if hypothetically, one guesses that ylh is aiming point 6 above at the Mahatma.

I will state here that only a MORON, of Ariel or other persuasion, can argue that Mahatma Gandhi might in some way be responsible for the Jallianwallah Bagh massacre.

The fact is that whatever you think of the Mahatma, he never taught or incited Hindus to hate Muslims.

The Ariel Morons and their equivalents on the Palestinian side keep mouthing -- Hate the Palestinians or Hate the Jews.

[Apologies to everyone in advance for getting this discussion group showered with replies.]

-arun gupta

What is happening in Israel is tragic and the inaction of the world to the problem is criminal, but that still does not change the reality that nothing is going to happen and the death of the little boy will just fade into the archives of the world`s media and will soon be forgotten!

My friends, please save your tears for another rainy day!

Ciao!