Desi Olympics 2000

Mr Ahmed #40:

As much as I respect you and your contributions to the discussions on Chowk (find them very informative) - I have to say this:

Hey, I wasn`t the one who started the gutter talk! And I HAD been leaving Jay alone until he started all that about the deaths. Don`t want to bother with Jay - my energy resources are too precious to be wasted on him - but he asked me something to which I replied.

As far as his potential to play a ``positive`` role on Chowk is concerned: we all have the potential to do a lot - good and bad - it`s only a matter of choosing which direction to take. He obviously has made the choice to use his potential energy negatively. I admit I haven`t been here long - but I have yet to come across a post by Jay that can be considered as a positive contribution. And why does he have to spoil it for the rest of us by releasing his tensions HERE?

Re Mr T-Rex or whatever your name is #36:

(L-U-B-N-A = LUBNA - is that too difficult for you?)

[[What Jihad ``really is`` hardly matters. What it has been surfacing as lately is a call and rallying point for Islamic terror....all over the world from Chechnya to Phillipines to Israel to India to US.]]

Well, what can I say? There are people like Mr Jay (oh I respect him so much) in every country, found in every religion, including Islam.

Mr Siddiqui:

I`m so sorry to take up so much space on your board. I hope you understand and can forgive me. By the way, entertaining article - I share your disappointment with the performance of the South Asian teams at the Olympics. Serious question - weren`t they thinking about introducing cricket into the Games as well some years back?

krashid #30 Thanks for mentioning Talib whom I did not know about.

I dont want to comment on the sports part of the article because I have full faith in the Pakistani nation that given the proper infrastructure they will rise above these odds and claim glory.

I wish however to comment on your insistence on the US being your country ... Adopted hee sahi...

I want you to comment on how you feel about Lazio, Hilary, Guliani, Corzine, Bob Franks .. G W

and Gore ... and about the comments that they made in the on going election campaign.

If I were an American I would be ashamed!!!!!!!!!

BAhmed #32

I think matter is clarified by another person. I did not remember the event. But it was I think 1960 Olympics.

I can call Mr. Talib to confirm it:-)

ALL CHOWKWALLA:

Let us talk about the Olympics, not gutter Olympics.

Sincerely, Bilal Ahmad

P.S. Lubna, please leave Jay alone. Let him release some of his tensions on the Chowk. I must, however, accept that Jay has great potential to play a positive role on the Chowk as well as in reducing unnecessary bickering between India and Pakistan. Jay, I miss your positive posts. Please consider.

In response to Banjaara (Reply # 37)

Dear Banjaara:

You are right about Abdul Khaliq. He was a sprinter only (as far as I remember). I have seem Mohammad Talib doing both (by the way, I was a very active osbservor/participant in the track and field athletics). However, I started reacting on this board when I noticed some confusion regarding Pakistan`s Olympic victories. I need not, however, remind of those days when Pakistan replaced India as the prime winner in Field Hockey (though both teams outperfomed the rest of the world, of course once upon a time).

Sincerely, Bilal Ahmad

ps: snafu in transmission.Pls read on....

Abdul Khaliq 100 meters sprint

Mohd. Talib 110 meters hurdles

Nawaz Khan Javelin

Mohd. Iqbal Hammer

Mubarak Shah 3000 meters Steeplechase

Allak Rakha Pole Vault.

All of them held asian records in their respective

items and won gold medals in 1954,1958 and 1962

Asian Games held in Manila,Tokyo and Jakarta

respectively.However,none of them could win a

medal at any of the Olympics.

Regards.

ahmadb#32

Just for the records:

Abdul Khaliq 100 meters sprint

Mohammad Talib 110 meters hurdles

Re: Lube or Lubna or whatever

``And btw, who said women are excluded from jihad - do you even know what jihad really is?``

What Jihad ``really is`` hardly matters. What it has been surfacing as lately is a call and rallying point for Islamic terror....all over the world from Chechnya to Phillipines to Israel to India to US.

Jay #33:

Why are you dragging others into this? Or are you not man enough to fight me on a one-to-one basis? But since you`ve asked, let me answer. You asked me where I was at the time - right here. If my memory serves me correctly, (hell, I`ll just repost it for you here), the post about the rape of the handicapped was a plea to you to clean up the mess in your own backyard before pointing your dirty little finger at other people`s messes. And as far as its relevance is concerned, it was just as relevant as YOUR posts on that board (or anywhere else for that matter).

Now, compare t`s post to your own re the incident in Kuwait (also reposted below so you won`t have to go around looking for it - oh i`m so helpful :)). Now... which one should one be offended by? Hope this cheers you up - you seemed to have been somewhat saddened by my earlier actions.

And since I`m feeling too lazy to travel aaaaaaall the way to the other message board to reply to your other post - taking it easy like you told me to - I`ll just do it here. Save time for both of us. So, to answer your question, again, I was right here. You could have continued the gutter talk for as long as you`d wanted to without referring to the deaths - wouldn`t have minded at all. In fact, you have been pointing our gutters out to us for a very long time - never made me sick. This time you did - sorry to puke all over you - only gutter I could find at the time - am not familiar with our gutters you see. Maybe you can help?

Oh and one more thing - I wasn`t supporting any brothers - don`t have any - was just disgusted by your total disregard for the loss of four human lives. And btw, who said women are excluded from jihad - do you even know what jihad really is?

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ras siddiqui #29:

[...And by the way Canada earned 15 total medals in the last winter Olympics and is sure to win some
more in the next one. Will South Asia do better?...]

south asia in WINTER olympics? OK.

[...(Notice that I did not say India here but was
sure tempted)...]

hey, resist everything but temptation. as the ad goes - whatever calamities you can think of...bring it on.

To Lubna,

It is so sad to see your indignation. Where were you when your beloved t-bhai was posting about the rape of handicapped in kerala which had no relevance what so ever. Ask t-bhai about the meaning of integrity. By the way, the spitting contest that is posted here by your t-bhai is word for word from a post by hamidm a year or so ago.

I remeber hamid posted it as a tribute to some region of pakistan. It was humourous, poetic, I wish hamid has the original and he posts it here to contrast the sterile copying.

Take it easy, dont make me a topic.

In response to krashid (Reply # 30)

Dear Rashid:

There is always a danger of misinformation when one relies solely upon his/her memory. Your reference to Mohammad Talib is a little bit disturbing for me. I knew Talib personally, and he was a good sprinter from Pakistani standards only. As far as I remember from my memory, his time for 100 meters was close to eleven seconds. In those days, Abdul Khaliq of Pakistan army was the fastest sprinter (again from my memory) who probably won in the Asian Games (my memory is a bit fuzzy). Here is a list of the Olympic Gold Medalists in 100 meters (1896-1988):

Year Winner, Country Time

1896 Tom Burke, USA 12.0

1900 Frank Jarvis, USA 11.0

1904 Archie Hahn, USA 11.0

1906 Archie Hahn, USA 11.2

1908 Reggie Walker, S. Afr. 10.8O

1912 Ralph Craig, USA 10.8

1920 Charley Paddock, USA 10.8

1924 Harold Abrahams, GBR 10.6O

1928 Percy Williams, CAN 10.8

1932 Eddie Tolan, USA 10.3O

1936 Jesse Owens, USA 10.3w

1948 Harrison Dillard, USA 10.3O

1952 Lindy Remigino, USA 10.4

1956 Bobby Morrow, USA 10.5

1960 Armin Hary, GER 10.2O

1964 Bob Hayes, USA 10.0W

1968 Jim Hines, USA 9.95W

1972 Valery Borzov, USSR 10.14

1976 Hasely Crawford, TRI 10.06

1980 Allan Wells, GBR 10.25

1984 Carl Lewis, USA 9.99

1988 Carl Lewis, USA * 9.92W

Sincerely, Bilal Ahmad

Enjoyed the article.

tAhmed#

You forgot to mention Mohammed Talib, I think the gold medalist in 1960 Olympics in sprint.

RE: Concerned Reply #3
Lighten up man. There is no need to bust any
brain vessels. In this case ALL South Asians
are in the same boat.
And by the way Canada earned 15 total medals in
the last winter Olympics and is sure to win some
more in the next one. Will South Asia do better?
(Notice that I did not say India here but was
sure tempted).
On Temporal with a small ``t`` Reply # 17
The most accurate reason remains:
``(c) Author is beyond hope or redemption``

Ras