Ghazali On Women In Islam

Zahra:

Thank you.

The modern advanced generation like yours is the trail blazer for a new Pakistan and a beacon for the Ummah.Ylh,scout,urstruly,Omarphoenix,fairdinkum,

ali1,Umair and so many other staunch & proud muslims equally a success at the secular level are the ``Quindeels`` for the wayward caravaan.

``Andheri raath judaa apnay Quaflay say hai thoo

Teray liyay hai meraa shola`aa e nava Quindeel``

ALLAMA IQBAL.

Please savour the above by pondering over its profound meanings,once the music of the verses loosen their hold on you.

The farangi tomes are now the refuge of bugs, roaches,& termites-------the Ba Ba Blacksheep re-incarnate.Let sleepy `clods` lie.

Wassalaam.

Question for all.

Is it/could it be considered blasphemy to refer to God`s gender as female, in Islam by a Muslim in print?

Hey Pankaj!

just been kinda busy lately... and trying to kick the chowk habit :-) (with little success, obviously)

later,

P

PM #113

Sorry for belated reply.

The incidence, was with Umar RZAH when instead of distributing booty according to Koran, he distributed it among the conquered people.

I have to find reference.

This is not the only incidence, there are many among initial Muslims.

And the sarcastic approach is the only approach not for righteous people but self-righteous people.

Pankaj #373, `` Unfortunately I guess scout takes some things in life too seriously. Lighten up baby.``

Firstly, I think the use of the word ``baby`` here was uncalled for. This isn`t a bar or local hangout for you to take the liberty of calling me ``baby`` when I haven`t taken the liberty of calling you anything short of your name.

Secondly, don`t we all have to take some things seriously?

``But at the end of the game, it should be said ``No hard feelings``.``

Please read my post #358, to which Rsaxena responded agreeably (and which you quoted).

You`ll have the answer to your concern about this matter.



scout

http://www.economictimes.com/today/16econ12.htm

Britain summons Indian rail experts!

LONDON

INDIAN rail signal experts and maintenance engineers are being hired by a major British engineering company to repair the country`s faulty rail network.

A spokesman for the British company Jarvis Rail, which has a partnership agreement with Rail India Technical Engineering Services, confirmed that 14 signaling and design engineers had already been hired from India and the company was looking for 50 more at salaries in the region of 40,000 pounds per annum.

``We are looking for top-caliber, competent and capable staff,`` the spokesman said. ``There is a shortage of skilled workers, in particular, in the United Kingdom and India is a good source to find these.``

The step by Jarvis, which is based in the Hertfordshire village of Watton at Stone, north of London, adds rail specialists to the flow of Indian IT professionals and teachers finding jobs in Britain and other Western countries.

Britain`s troubled rail network has recently been overwhelmed by problems exacerbated by rising costs and poor track maintenance that has contributed to a series of accidents. Cancellation of regular services and routine delays, sometimes by as much as 10 hours, has affected every aspect of national life.

Ironically, it was British engineers who first built India`s own railway system, laying the Calcutta to Delhi track in 1851. In 1921 Edward the Eighth, then the Prince of Wales, paid a visit to India to see for himself the vast network of railways built by British companies.

This is the second time in less than a month that a British company has come knocking at India`s door in search of skilled professionals. Last month a British education recruitment firm announced it was hiring Indian teachers to teach English in British schools.

The Leicester-based Initial Education Personnel disclosed that it was hiring 120 Indian teachers and would pay them up to 20,000 pounds per month to teach in British schools.

Jarvis, which has 700 million pounds worth of contracts with Britain`s Railtrack, is currently bidding for the contract to maintain the British east coast line main from London to Scotland. A decision is expected early in the New Year.

Kevin Hyde, a senior executive with Jarvis, said, ``It`s very technical stuff, but basically there is a worldwide shortage of signaling and design engineers. India has more engineers than anyone else in the world and they have a good reputation.``

``We`re not hiring from India because its cheap labour. We`re paying the full consulting rate. In fact we`ve been recruiting from all over the world, but there are very few places left to recruit from for our signaling requirements.``

``The signaling system here in Britain is the same as anywhere else. A sudden upsurge in expenditure requires a design input and most countries haven`t maintained the level of skills for this once in a generation requirement. - IANS







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Dear FARANGI_KUSH,

A VERY late response.

You are right. Emotions--particularly joy, happiness--have their own value. It is foolish to always mess them up by bringing in the ghost of logic. I plead guilty.

True to my name, I have a very simple and simpleminded religion:

What brings happiness to you and to others is good; what brings pain to you and others is bad; what brings pain to you and but happiness to others deserves your attention--it may actually multiply your happiness; what brings happiness to you but pain to others also deserves your attention--it may actually multiply your pain.

As you can see, I do not always succeed in following my religion :)

Best

Re: Urstruly #376

I rest my case. (As I was saying, d is the fun part about Chowk...thanks for being the bakra to prove my point...idiot)

on
[Aurat and Taa`leem]
[Zurb-ae-Kaeem]
by Iqbal

on
[Aurat and Taa`leem]
[Zurb-ae-Kaeem]
by Iqbal

Rsaxena

Your bitchin` and moanin` on the other board (Babri Board) contradicts a,b,c,& d. Are you kidding yourself or playing with yourself? :)

Re: Pankaj

``RSaxena appears to be a young man who loves chowk for some playful activities.``

You got that right.

How can you take a message board so seriously....it is addictive and entertaining nevertheless.

I realize that:

a) This is a message board, not real life

b) No significant political or social movements are going to get started here - only bit#hing and complaining. It`s good to vent though.

c) Most participants are adults who aren`t going to change their opinions because of something they read on Chowk.

d) Some people take Chowk and other message boards too seriously - it is fun (childish fun I suppose) to needle them a bit.

RSaxena,

{{Anyway, aren`t you a grown man? Act you age. I know you aren`t a 20-something so there`s no excuse for any immaturity.}}

Hate to admit this, but I think your right. My apologies to you & anyone else who was offended by my raunchy language.

Hi scout and RSaxena

N.B This post is not meant for serious readers.

RSaxena: ``Yup, it`s all a give-and-take. No hard feelings...or even if there are, no use crying and whinning about them and throwing a fit.

``

Look scout, this is the true spirit of the game. I guess your(both of you) wavelengths match(or rather resonate) at some level. RSaxena appears to be a young man who loves chowk for some playful activities. Unfortunately I guess scout takes some things in life too seriously. Lighten up baby.But at the end of the game, it should be said ``No hard feelings``.

Dear PM

Howz is life. You appear to be quiet these days!

Cheers

Mushtaq Farooqui Sahib,

Thanks for the reply. Wish you every success with your projects.

Your ideas on the mystical nature - or side - of Islam I found very interesting indeed. I have known many devout Muslims who bear testimony to the ennobling nature of this aspect of Islam. And I am forced into a paradigm shift on reading Armstrong or Rumi and Shariati.

However, what troubles me is the question of whether, on the average, more humans would naturally be drawn/pushed towards the more mundane and anachronistic teachings Islam than the more sublime side you have been fortunate to have been exposed to, by your admission, from an early age. It would be great if we could focus only on the mystical and sublime (as does, say, Armstrong) and even see the metaphysical side of the some practical teachings. Yet I cannot help think of this as irresponsible in a way.

Is the successful following of (mystical) Islam contingent in some way upon intellect and education-- while the ``Lashkaris`` and neighbourhood mullahs condemned to a more practical and often vulgar reading?

best regards,

PM

sb #368,

thanks for the kind words at the end of ur post.

the teasing doesn`t bother me as much as it might have in the past.