The Islamist and Hindutva Politics: Identities of Outlook and Objectives

Harimau #303

So why were you crying so loudly in your post about people being prevented from performing their holy festival in land of pure.

Let me know where do you live.

I can guide you.

Harimau #307

For that matter, I am buying a camel and selling my Totota.

Does it interest you.

Ascention of Prophet PBUH after his death. Did you take more Ganja or ``Tari`` today.

I don`t expect you to use foreign made heroine and LSD.

Ref JSandhu #: 323

Don`t make assumptions about my personal experiences.

But then you have been consistent in your stupidity so I cannot accuse you of being a Hindu-apologist.

Let me quote from history. India: A History by John Keay, noted historian and author.

Somnath`s fort looked more formidable. It seems, though, to have been defended by not by troops but by its enormous complement of of brahmans and hordes of devotees...... Such was the resultant carnage that even the Muslim chroniclers betray a hint of unease. What one of them calls `the dreadful slaughter` outside the temple was yet worse......

Additionally twenty million dirhams-worth of gold, silver and gems was looted from the temple. But what rankled even more than the loot and the appalling death-toll was the satisfaction which Mahmud took in destroying the great gilded lingam. After stripping it of its gold, he personally laid into it with his `sword` - which must have been more like a sledgehammer. The bits were then sent back to Ghazni and incorporated into the steps of its new Jami Masjid (Friday Mosque), there to be humiliatingly trampled and perpetually defiled by the feet of the Muslim faithful.

What is that crap about Allah enjoining Muslims to protect the places of worship of the unbelievers? I want the resident Islamic scholars to quote chapter and verse from the Qur`an and the hadiths about it.

(pp.209-210)

Dionysus, say with pride, `I am the descendant of vandals`. Say with pride, `I am a descendant of murderers, looters and rapists`. Say with pride, `I am a Pakistani, a product of the fevered brain of that tuberculous Jinnah`. Say with pride, `I am a product of the rape of innocent women by Islamic invaders`. Say with pride, `I grow and sell opium to the world`. Say with pride, `I am a Sunni and I kill Shias and Qadianis`.

Because that IS your heritage.

Let me quote from history. India: A History by John Keay, noted historian and author.

In 1018, it was the turn of Mathura, a well-endowed place of pilgrimage beside the Jamuna which was sacred to Lord Krishna as well as the source of so much Gupta sculpture. Here the main temple, a colossally intricate stone structure, impressed even Mahmud. Already busy endowing Ghazni with stately mosques and madrassehs, he reckoned to build the like of the Mathura temple would take at least 200 years and cost a hundred million dirhams. According to al-Utbi, the building was simply ``beyond description`` - though not desecration. After tonnes of gold, silver and precious stones had been prised from its images, it shared the fate of the city`s countless other shrines, being `burned with naphtha and fire and levelled with the ground`. (p.208)

Dionysus, say with pride, `I am the descendant of vandals`. Say with pride, `I am a descendant of murderers, looters and rapists`. Say with pride, `I am a Pakistani, a product of the fevered brain of that tuberculous Jinnah`. Say with pride, `I am a product of the rape of innocent women by Islamic invaders`. Say with pride, `I grow and sell opium to the world`. Say with pride, `I am a Sunni and I kill Shias and Qadianis`.

Because that IS your heritage.

REF # 317

[``harimau #308 That post was funny. And you were funny without meaning be to so - obviously a natural. Honest. Go, git `em, boy``]

I too think that at last we have a real he-man who has emerged from India, the land of eunuchs. Some one who wants to avenge the historical injustices, brutalities and rapes; thus wiping off the accumalated mongol/turk/british semen from the face of mother india.

Go Harimau! teach the Staines of this world a lesson.

Mannu: Shouting ``rape`` consistently in every single post points to a bigger problem than hindu-muslim hatred. If you cann`t foget what you saw as a child, go to the doctor. Posting like a mad man is not a proper treatment for your bemari.

RE: Prof Bilal # 313

[``My reply: I am glad to know that you are not what we sense from your writings.``]

But maybe I am. Maybe I am worse than what you sense from my writings?

[``But, do you ever realize what a person`s irresponsible rhetoric could do to others? ``]

That is a problem ``others`` need to sort, I think.

Ref #: 310

[The ever-so-reasonable Bangladeshi (I suppose you carry an Indian passport now) thrown out of her country by Islamic thugs and who is now preaching moderation.]

Hey, ali1, who complains that I am bitching about 15th century invaders. Let me give you some history here. The war in Bangladesh happened in 1971. That, in case your math is weak, happens to be in the 20th century. Just 30 years back.

The Islamic thugs I referred to happened to be the Pakistani Army.

In a recent Chowk poll, 45% of respondents felt that Pakistan has no reason to apologize for the rapes and murders of the 1971 occupation of Bangladesh.

And the same people post regularly asking India to try ITS army personnel for getting a little rest and recreation in Kashmir.

Islamic medicine, guys. Except, it is administered by a Hindu vaidya. Has to taste bitter. So ask the local hakeem for good-tasting 7th-century Arab camel-crap. That ought to go well with a kilo of Afghan hash.

PS to Chowk editors: This happens to have stayed on in my screen. So let us see if you can post it this time.

What kind of sick people think its entertaining and a matter of pride to heap abuse on others without coherence or connection?

And I thought `ali1` said he `had a life` and was horrified about `inhuman treatment of minorities in India` esp on chowk. And `dionysus` kept moaning about `unnecessary Partition on basis of religion`. Thats what you wanted more Hindus for, your own countrymen donot suffice for your two-faced foulmouthedness?

Sadhana

harimau #308 That post was funny. And you were funny without meaning be to so - obviously a natural. Honest. Go, git `em, boy.

Ref ahmadb #: 313

[In response to Ali1 (Reply # 302)

Dear Ali:

Your statement: ``Once in a while, people like Harimau come along and provide us (me) with some high quality entertainment..... I assure you I do not believe in most of what I write in these exchanges but hey, this is the internet!``

My reply: I am glad to know that you are not what we sense from your writings. But, do you ever realize what a person`s irresponsible rhetoric could do to others? There is a whole field of communication science full of insights, if you care to look into.

Please do not unnecessarily create monsters if and when there are none.]

Don`t tell me an intelligent man like you has fallen for this joker, ali1. Ali1 has been spouting rubbish all over Chowk for a long time. When I show him incontrovertible facts, he backs out and says that he didn`t mean it at all. Just like Jinnah REALLY didn`t mean it when he said he wanted Pakistan. Oh, no; the devious Hindus made him take his Pakistan, move to Karachi and start expelling Hindus from Punjab, Sindh and NWFP.

[P.S. Please think, why Harimau did not reply my post (while he had plenty of time to write what he unfortunately did)?]

I replied to you all right. It is just that Chowk editors can handle only so many hot potatoes at one time and I necessarily have to send in my posts in the evening or early morning. The only thing unfortunate about my posts is that it raises questions that, if analyzed dispassionately, provide answers that are extremely uncomfortable to Muslims as well as Hindu-apologists. But that is how the cookie crumbles in real life.

Please ask Chowk editors to dig up my response to you. I don`t save my posts and it is difficult to reconstruct them after waiting for two days to see if Chowk editors can handle the truth.

Ref xxabbu #: 301

[I kept wodering about this guy Harimau, trying to figure where he`s comin from. I finally got it - the only explanation short of him being an ISI infiltrator.

He`s sadly lapsed into clinical insanity.

Off his trolley, lost his marbles.]

An amateur shrink, no less! or, are you a professional like Shankar? Remore diagnosis, too! What are the fees, doctor? Do you accept insurance?

[Thats OK, folks, these things happen. What we need to worry about is, how many more are roaming out there in mera bharat mahaan? Is this an isolated case, or do we have a full-blown epidemic?]

The epidemic is a disease called Islam. This virus infected India 1000 years ago. Strangely enough, this seems to be able to survive even when no food is available. The proof of this is that it pulversized thousands of Hindu temples into sand. It has also infected the brains of namby-pamby Hindus who are probably apologetic that they didn`t have enough womenfolk to offer to Islamic rapists. However, a major portion of this disease was surgically removed from India in 1947. With no host to attack, the virus attacked its own body. But for the help of those hated Hindus, East Pakistan would today be Khabristan. The virus is alive and well and running rampant in Pakistan, Afghanistan and various other -stans.

[I think I read this guy has CHILDREN (!) Its the most heart-breaking thing I`ve learnt all of today. Are people like him for real??]

Of couse, it is NOT heart-breaking for you when the Islamic thugs cleansed East Timor. They were doing Allah`s bidding.

PS to Chowkwallahs: I will understand if you refuse to post this. It is difficult to read something to which you have NO ANSWER.

Harimau#308,

The inadequacy of my argument? I have got out of the ring?

ha ha ha....

thanks for giving me a good laugh.

I can return in the future and skew you like the skinny little chicken you are though, if you want.

but right now I am busy.

so respond to my points about what you`re gonna do when the descendants of the people YOUR ancestors oppressed, or imagined they oppressed (as most of your history is 5h1t )come round looking for their pound of flesh.....

hopefully they will spare your family but skin you alive after you`ve toasted the entire Muslim population of India.

just kidding

.Chicken.

harmau #305

You`re a typical high-caste Hindu full of sh *t and possesing a masterful ability to invent fairy tales glorifying his miserable ancestors.

The number of women who died at Chittor was not more than a couple of dozen (if that). And what about Raja Mann Singh and friends? For hundreds of years their women didn`t complain about `Muslim contamination` when they were blowing Akbar and family. People like `Mirza` Jai Singh eventually acknowledged their Mughal ancestory by even adopting Muslim titles.

Harimau, say with pride, ``I am an Indian, the product of the febrile hallucinations of that slimy incestous paedophile, Gandhi.`` Say with pride, ``I am the product of the rape of innocent Dravidian women by Aryan marauders.`` Say with pride, ``I am a high-caste Hindu and I rape low-caste Hindu women and even, when I`m in the mood, low-caste Hindu men``.

Or for short, ``Garv say kaho hum Bharati hain!``

Man, this is so much fun! Hating Indians is the greatest thing about being a Pakistani...lol!

Ref #: 310

[The ever-so-reasonable Bangladeshi (I suppose you carry an Indian passport now) thrown out of her country by Islamic thugs and who is now preaching moderation.]

Hey, ali1, who complains that I am bitching about 15th century invaders. Let me give you some history here. The war in Bangladesh happened in 1971. That, in case your math is weak, happens to be in the 20th century. Just 30 years back.

The Islamic thugs I referred to happened to be the Pakistani Army.

In a recent Chowk poll, 45% of respondents felt that Pakistan has no reason to apologize for the rapes and murders of the 1971 occupation of Bangladesh.

And the same people post regularly asking India to try ITS army personnel for getting a little rest and recreation in Kashmir.

Islamic medicine, guys. Except, it is administered by a Hindu vaidya. Has to taste bitter. So ask the local hakeem for good-tasting 7th-century Arab camel-crap. That ought to go well with a kilo of Afghan hash.