For a few words of love

I belong to the generation which was young when the British left India, my grand-motherland, when we were singing the poem by Allama Iqbal `` Hindi hein hum wattan he Hindostan hamara, hum bulbulen hein iski yih gulsitan hamara``. We were inspired by Mahatma Gandhi and Pundit Nehru but also dreamed for a small homeland of our own called Pakistan as envisioned by Qaid-e-Azam Mohd Ali Jinnah, whom we heard speaking and with whom we walked for miles in `Jaloos` as young boys. What an inspiring personality he was for the youth of those days. But we could never foresee that our dream would become a nightmare. Pakistan which was envisioned mainly as a political solution of religious hatred in India failed miserabely to achieve that objective. Rather it added fuel to the fire. As it is, our generation is now ending up as a failed generation with a sense of deep disappoinent for what we are bequeething to our children - a truncatd portion of a great motherland with horror of sectarian carnage and religious terrorism coupled with ever looming fear of atomic holocaust. May God forgive us!.

IT IS AGOOD EFFORT BUT,NOT FOR THE CRITICAL SAKE,

THE WRITING CARRIES A BIT IMMATURE STY;L ANYWAY THE DISCOURAGEENT WAS NOT THE AIM...

ALLAH HAFIZ

KOI

HASSAN

``Lastly, cynicism is the resort of the weak...:)

War ensures that the most brutal survive--`strong` is too nice a word.``


Dear Ms. Shah,

What have you been reading ? care to share your booklist with us ? Did you come up with all those insights all by yourself ?

I am often feel perplexed and frustrated by the ``macho`` people who beat their chest over some tough ideaology (an attitude they conveniently term ``realistic``). It is horrid people like them who created this ``reality``.

Shiraz

adnan-672

I couldnt resist replying:

War ensures that the most brutal survive--`strong` is too nice a word.

Just because something hasnt happened is not a reason to say that it can never happen in future.

If u look at the course of history--rather than war, peace processes, negotiations, and human rights activism ensure that the world we live in is livable.

Lastly, cynicism is the resort of the weak...:)

u live in a utopia

war was, is and always shall be a reality

only the strong survive

can u enlighten me with any era of human history when wishful thinking like that of the author was prevalent

#73 Egalitarian_brahmin:

Thanks. I understand.

Dear hobyty:

You wrote one of the most eloquent and moveing passage:

``He gives voice to what so many others are thinking and what others who do not have the level of Mr. Afridi’s education, are doing. Mr. Afridi wants an economy that values him, rewards him for his dedication and expertise. He wants a civil society which is inclusive, tolerant of all stakeholders and is respectful of the dignity of individual persons; a legal system that protects and upholds that tolerance and dignity. He wants Laws that do not function to deny equality of rights, protection or exclude or differentiate the quality of justice among citizens. A State primarily concerned with the welfare of citizens and the creation of opportunity for citizens.``

Indeed -- ``Who objects to such a Pakistan?``

But then again you end it on a wrong ``sum`` by bringing again the same hackneyed untrue phrase -- ``all those who reject values such as freedom of choice, conscience, personal liberty and equality of opportunity, inherent in tolerant, dynamic Islam.``

The modern day Islam is anything but ``dynamic``.

Why not opt for a simple -- progressive, democratic, SECULAR Pakistan?

Check out India and Pakistan!

Global Trends 2015:

A Dialogue About the Future With Nongovernment Experts

NIC 2000-02, December 2000

This paper was approved for publication by the National Foreign Intelligence

Board under the authority of the Director of Central Intelligence.

Prepared under the direction of the National Intelligence Council.

http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/globaltrends2015/index.html

Latif Chappu #8

Sorry!

We miss you in Pakistan.

Latif Chappu #8

Your nomination for Nobel Prize this year is certain. The scientist will wonder at the marvel of twenty first century. And mathematicians will reorganize their books.

Exactly 100 years before you Einstein was doing similar things in his patent office and you see the result. Atomic Bomb.

Ras Siddiqui# 16

``Looks like things are pretty bad in India too.``

Sh--Sh. It is a crime to say something like this. Don`t forget the song of democracy and secularism with one voice.

Aik Hein Hum.

Scout #40

With apology, I had not seen the zanana behaviour of you.

Sarzanish. Latarna.

Baccha Ro De ga.

ylh #49

After reading your post I remembered a statement by MQM leader many years back.

Think and join MQM :-)

Urstruly #60

Are you sure, chowk has started to do chowkidari. I doubt it.

While you read by scrolling some of the posters named, I close my eyes and press the button on right lower end.

Mein Janta Hun Kia Woh Likhen Gai.

egalitarian_brahmin? Is n`t that an oxymoron? Would not egalitarian_human be better? Why brahmin ?

Just some questions!

ALL Interactors, readers

Thanks very much for your comments. They are extremely precious to me.

Latif Chappu: Your humour kept this board lively--but to clear any misconceptions--Chowk is a joint effort of all the editors, interactors and readers.

Temporal: Delighted to view your thoughts. The absence was due to time constraints and some self control--thanks for the comments as always.

Masd and Karim Shankar: your comments compensated for the entire exercise--delighted to hear the resonance..

ahmadb, neurogen, Ras, Sadna, Zahra, Slink, Kabuliwala, Ferozk, tahmed, fairdinkum and all--thanks thanks and thanks for the time taken.

an aside: The conversation was simply awesome till ahem, some of us forgot the topic..... Positively speaking that appears to be Chowk`s signal for ``NEXT, Please!`` So, lets move on, indeed.