Marital Rape

re. Krashid/KMasihi #377

``Looks like some Masihi are Muslims too:-).

Thrash the Muslims hard.-).

Scum of the world.:-)

From KMasih.``

Krashid bhai, why are you thrashing Muslims. (or is it Masihis?)

re. the Muderer Masihi, I thought you would show a little compassion. After all, like you said to me...

``It is not your fault... We are all products of [our] environment``

Well said my dear KRashid!

(and don`t forget, we are talking here about a man who is `flesh of our flesh, blood of our blood`` , as someone wisely put it not so long ago :-))

re hlahil various

Pal, you have done an excellent job as the Islamic Republic of Pakistan`s ambassador. But, frankly, I think Dr Maleeha Lodhi is better looking.

TAhmed #

Actually it was a bollywood mix. The two similes are:

Deegran Ra Naseehat.

Khud Ra Fazeehat. and

Khud Ko Hawaee

Dosroon Ko Dawai.

krashid #379 ``Maulana supercedes God and takes the job of God, interprets God and is a spokesman of God. So he basically replaces God.``

Please, no jokes. We are serious people here.

``Deegran Ra Dawai.

Khud Ra Hawai.``

I must admit not to catch this one. Could you please explain what this means?

Ali1#380

Good to see so many ex-Jamatis.

Sameer JB, you and me.

Is Ghar Ko Aag Lag Gayi Ghar Ke Chiragh Se.

TAhmed 321 #379

I am sure you are not serious enough to discuss Maulana Mowdudi and his legacy Jamat-e-Islami.

Maulana supercedes God and takes the job of God, interprets God and is a spokesman of God. So he basically replaces God.

And if you see his legacy you will notice.

Deegran Ra Dawai.

Khud Ra Hawai.

HLAHIL #374 ``work of Syed Moudoodi``

Maudoodi may have claimed biological descent from the prophet (``Syed``), but Maoudoodism is the opposite of the spiritual message conveyed by the prophet. Even to claim biological descent from the prophet in an effort to prove you are closer to God is the anti-thesis of Islam. For more on the subject read what the spiritual message, as conveyed at length in the Quran, has to say about the Hypocrites - Maudoodi and his bearded followers (the mullahs, who would impose themselves on us in the name of Islam) fit the description of the Hypocrites like the hand fits the proverbial glove.

PS In this age of DNA testing, I think the Syeds will be revealed to be more like Sri Ram Bahadurs, and the Qureshis to be more like Qanti Lals. No wonder the Quran enjoins upon us to learn more about God`s creation: another Quranic message that is conveniently ignored by Maudoodi and his followers.

RE HLAHIL 374

[``Yes, I did not go to St. joseph`s school but I did go to a university and also did well``]

Good for you. I hope you didnt waste too much time with the Jamiat Tulaba.

[``And,I was not talking about the author`s sisters, it was meant for you.``]

Click on this link to refresh your memory:

http://chowk.com/bin/showr.cgi?f=ahaneef_jan0801&n=20#reply350

You WERE insulting the author. Now be a man and apologize to him.

[``it might hurt you but you should read some of the work of Syed Moudoodi.``]

I was a Jamaatiya in my college during the ``glorious`` era of General Zialul Haq Shaheed sitara-e-bisalat. Although I didnt read his tafseer till much later, I did read his other books then. So whats your point?

[``Please tell me now you know who I am``]

I still think you need to get more education. Read Iqbal and Ali Shariati for starters. And have a Pepsi too.

PS: I don`t plan on responding to your posts unless I see an apology from you to the author.

HLAHIL,

Please dont call my beloved nephew ali a fool. He does his patriotic duty everyday by trashing hindus on Chowk.

Ras Siddiqui #

Looks like some Masihi are Muslims too:-).

Thrash the Muslims hard.-).

Scum of the world.:-)

From KMasih.

Ras #373,

And no one in the busy bazaar stopped that monster? Several people couldn`t stop one man?

Now that makes me sick. What is the world coming to?

HLAHIL # On various posts.

Instead of being angry on people who in their time fought hard to achieve something for themselves and their compatriots in the highly tyrranical periods.

Try to do something positive for your generation and compatriot.

Rather than taking the Hashish of Islam by Mullahs, read newspaper everyday to see what is happening daily around you. How many people are losing their job everyday. How many innocent people are in police custody for Bhutta. How many Haris are in jail to serve their landlord. How many suicides are done out of frustration.

And believe me I am talking about your beloved country in which according to your mentality I was f--ing around for 30 years, when I had to do double job all my life. (And I was in better position than many).

Go and tell this bull sh-it to Army, they might give you a position in their next tout Government. Don`t tell this crap in the garb of a patriot. If you are so patriot go and feed one person daily. God might give you some place in paradize.

for Ali

You are realy a fool

-Just because I do not suscribe to your or the author`s point of view, You assume I am not educated.Yes, I did not go to St. joseph`s school but I did go to a university and also did well.If you had any depth you could have questioned my WISDOM not education.There are lot of UNEDUCATED people who are much wiser than you.

And,I was not talking about the author`s sisters, it was meant for you.You must feel worthless to see so much negative about Pakistan and so hostile.You fit well in the class of KALA AUNGREZ, confused, and wanting to be accepted by the cowd of drawing room LIBERALS .You have lost your hearing and vision and will never see the truth even if it hits you in your face.Get some lessons about logic(Muntak) and it might hurt you but you should read some of the work of Syed Moudoodi.(Please tell me now you know who I am)

From The Nation (Lahore, Pakistan)today:

Please note the name of the person who did this:


Couple murdered in broad daylight

By Our Staff Reporter
LAHORE – A young man and his wife were hacked to death in a busy bazaar by his brother-in-law for marrying against the wishes of their families in Youhanabad, Nishter Colony area here on Saturday.
The gory drama, which was a consequence of a two-year-old love marriage, was witnessed by dozens of people.
According to details, the deceased couple, parents of an infant Nadeem and Rubina, had contracted marriage against the wishes of their families some two years back and left their homes. They moved to Gujranwala. Munir Masih, Rubina’s brother traced them and asked them to join their families. He arranged a Panchaiat to bring his sister back home and to restore relations with her and her husband.
During the Panchaiat Munir Masih pulled out a chopper and attacked both in front of a large gathering. The couple tried to run for their lives. Munir caught Nadeem first and killed him later he caught hold of Rubina and attacked her too, killing her on the spot. He then went to the police station for his arrest.
An eyewitness said that he was furious and had struck the couple with a small chopper. Another witness said Nadeem and Rubina were running senselessly as Munir followed them, but both were caught and chopped. “It was a dreadful scene – the killer butchered both of them,” said a witness, adding his clothes were soaked in human blood.” He said that Rubina was running holding her one-year-old child in her arms who was left alone when she was caught by Munir.
When contacted the area police said that Rubina had eloped with Nadeem some two years back and now they were killed by Rubina’s brother Munir. Police denied that the accused (Munir) had come to the police station and for his arrest.
Nishter Colony police have registered a case. Meanwhile, both the bodies were removed to the city morgue for autopsy.

RE HLAHIL # 368

[``The last word used in your posting says a lot about you.I am sure you use f word when you want to sound intelligent.``]

Nah..I use the f word to get the message across to people like you and the message did get across in that you didn`t make presumptions about my sisters like you did about the author`s sisters in your earlier posting.

[``Pakistan has more good people than bad people.``]

When you grow up and get some good education you will realize that (a) good and bad are relative and (b) you need not be a bad person to commit a wrong, just being ignorant is enough.

[``It (Pakistan) is going to get better, I am hopeful of that.``]

Me too. It can`t get any worse pal.

[``Thank god you are not in Pakistan. Less trash to get rid off.

Pakistan Zindabad``]

Please keep us posted on all that you do for the country other than raising slogans.

Finally, I will leave you with this:

-Is it fair on your part to make presumptions and insulting remarks about Aurangzeb Haneef`s sisters just because you disagree with what he has written here?

-Why do girls who drink Pepsi and eat burgers qualify as ``bad`` in your view? I am intrigued.

Solitude and others...

This is quite fascinating...

http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/99jan/koran.htm

excerpt:

[Another scholar with a wide readership who is committed to re-examining the Koran is Mohammed Arkoun, the Algerian professor at the University of Paris. Arkoun argued in Lectures du Coran (1982), for example, that ``it is time [for Islam] to assume, along with all of the great cultural traditions, the modern risks of scientific knowledge,`` and suggested that ``the problem of the divine authenticity of the Koran can serve to reactivate Islamic thought and engage it in the major debates of our age.`` Arkoun regrets the fact that most Muslims are unaware that a different conception of the Koran exists within their own historical tradition. What a re-examination of Islamic history offers Muslims, Arkoun and others argue, is an opportunity to challenge the Muslim orthodoxy from within, rather than having to rely on ``hostile`` outside sources. Arkoun, Abu Zaid, and others hope that this challenge might ultimately lead to nothing less than an Islamic renaissance.]