The Day When God Died

KRashid,

#278

Good one!:)))

Unfortunately, eventhough RSaxena has obtained a lota, he does`nt have a clue what to do with it!

Pheeow! I can smell him all the way in Michigan!

RSaxena

``He is the corniest middle-aged desi man I have come across...``oh please be my friend...oh please oh please oh please...I``

Why do you hate middle aged men so much:-) . We twenty-somethings will also become middle aged some day :-).

Cheers

RSaxena

``He is the corniest middle-aged desi man I have come across...``oh please be my friend...oh please oh please oh please...I``

Why do you hate middle aged menm:-) . We twenty-somethings will also become middle aged some day :-).

Cheers

Asim

you seem to be ``conjuring`` up all the wrong images at the drop of a hat (maybe it is just the California sun : )) I guess we now know the raaaz behind the smiley-faces

lyrics - i dont know the lyrics - most of the time the tune remains but the lyrics are long forgotten

It is apparetnly called that and is by this rapper - sisqo (and pls dotn miss the hair better than the song)

aicha

Re: Rsaxena and imagiantiuon

``Hmmm...you`ve been spending a little too much time watching movies you`re not supposed to be watching. A thong can be either what you`re dreaming of OR a sandal held together by a like).``

I dont have to watch movies. Unfortunately, in this context, i live in ``sunny`` california. I am not dreaming of thongs, your insistence to call sandals thongs, in a very americansied way, compelled me to take the mickey out of the usage. that`s all.

``thin leather strap of some sort (which I suppose you can use to cover your naughty bits if you`d``

At the very least, I am glad to get you ``off`` to a fine start, dreaming wise anywasy, eh..:)

Asim

P.S Too many smileys again fro you. Yes, i had a whale of a good time interacting with my token indian friends onboard!

Re: aicha #276

``cant get the th-th-thong-thong song out of your mind : )``

I have no idea what the th thong song is. Perhaps u might care to sharee the lyrics for it.

``but seriously - thongs aka flip-flops - sandals to complete the beach going attire``

Hm, so why call them thongs, when you can call them sandals, a much more sombre word which does not conjure up images of parted bodily appendages.:)

RSaxena #277

Good to hear that you have started to clean.

Re: scout

``I think you`re just jealous you can`t be like him, making friends and such :)``

You`re right...I secretly envy him. I even bought a lota yesterday.

Asim Hayat

tsk tsk tsk

cant get the th-th-thong-thong song out of your mind : )

but seriously - thongs aka flip-flops - sandals to complete the beach going attire

Re: Asim

``Correct me if i am wrong, but arent thongs supposed to be worn to cover one`s naughty bits., along the lines of a highly skimpy bikini, worn predominantly by women.``

Hmmm...you`ve been spending a little too much time watching movies you`re not supposed to be watching. A thong can be either what you`re dreaming of OR a sandal held together by a thin leather strap of some sort (which I suppose you can use to cover your naughty bits if you`d like).

Rsaxena #271,

I think you`re just jealous you can`t be like him, making friends and such :).

Asim Hayat #273,

all i can say is, go to dictionary.com and look up the other meaning of thong, and please get those specific images out of your head before something bad happens. by the way, this board will go away soon, so why not hijack it and have a few laughs.

:)

Re : rubber Bata thongs...

Correct me if i am wrong, but arent thongs supposed to be worn to cover one`s naughty bits., along the lines of a highly skimpy bikini, worn predominantly by women. Beach going attire amongst the sophisticated, that is.

Naturally images of Shakar or Rsaxena wearing the aforementioned attire, is highly jarring, unless they are wearinmg something altogether different.

Some might say, this board has been hijacked by Rsaxena, Shankar, and scout. But then i am just a new comer. what do i know? :)

Asim

YLH vs ISRU ... the controversy continues

http://www.dailytargum.com/sections/opinion/story/012901aah.html

Re: scout

``By the way, I think shankar uncle wears those brown rubber Bata thongs. :)``

I bet he does...and he carries a lota around too.

He is the corniest middle-aged desi man I have come across...``oh please be my friend...oh please oh please oh please...I used to hate all Pakis before I came to Chowk as a 40-something-year-old shrink but now you I have been enlightened`` hehe

RSaxena,

{{Haha..you small-minded fool,}}

In order to get through to you, I have to talk like a simple minded fool. Dont know what a stilleto is?! Sheeesh--what a buddhu!!

scout,

beti..throw some mirchi powder in this buddhu`s eyes. I`ll gladly wear those bata thongs if you do.

Zahra,

I was unable to go to the event in New York, primarily because I had certain prior commitments. Kindly keep me informed on anything in the future. I feel so bad, must have been a great lecture...

-YLH

Rsuxena #265, ``What the heck`s a stilleto anyway? Some type of shoe that shankar uncle wears?)``

It`s a name for a pencil heeled sandal or a sharp dagger.

By the way, I think shankar uncle wears those brown rubber Bata thongs. :)

YLH #266,

Well that`s a nice thing to do. Could you post more info. I`d like to come. And if Rsaxena promises to come wearing sandals, my presence is guaranteed.

Re: ylh #266

Good luck with it.

Shankar, Rsaxena, scout etc,

You will all be happy to know that Siqafat,the Pakistani Cultural Club`s showing of the Movie

``Jinnah`` is now going to be a fundraising event for the Indian Earthquake victims, to be held on 15th of Feb. Recent events at Rutgers have generated enough interest for this event to be sold out.

-Yasser Hamdani

Re: scout

``Whoa! Put the stiletto down, take a step back, and no one will get hurt.``

Put that razor down first. (What the heck`s a stilleto anyway? Some type of shoe that shankar uncle wears?)

Re: shankar

``Thats the spirit bro! Its our mutual hatred that makes coming to Chowk so much fun.``

Anytime. That`s what friends are for.

``Love to see how the new, improved ylh is making you squirm..``

Haha..you small-minded fool, you`re going to have to do a lot better than that.

Rsaxena,

{{Haha..Ironically, I doubt I can ever have a stronger bond of friendship-based-on-pure-hatred with anyone other than you}}

Thats the spirit bro! Its our mutual hatred that makes coming to Chowk so much fun. Love to see how the new, improved ylh is making you squirm..

{{with you, it`s a different matter altogether...your slimy behind will twist and squirm just to get along and make friends }}

Aw..really, you mean it?! Gee thats the nicest thing you have said about me! You are a true friend..

Rsuxena #261,

Whoa! Put the stiletto down, take a step back, and no one will get hurt.

Re: scout

``Even the usually badtameez Rsaxena hasn`t addressed me in such a chauvanistic condescending manner.``

Whoa, back your Feminazi truck up a minute...you`re hardly one to talk about badtameezi.

Re: shankar

``Aw, comeon ylh, can you picture RSaxena ever being all friendly & mushy?! Foggetaboutit!! You should start developing an everlasting bond of friendship that Saxena & I have --based on pure hatred``

Haha..Ironically, I doubt I can ever have a stronger bond of friendship-based-on-pure-hatred with anyone other than you...even with ylh, his positions are generally pretty clear...sometimes they are abhorrent to me but at least I know where he stands...with you, it`s a different matter altogether...your slimy behind will twist and squirm just to get along and make friends (damn! If I was a shrink I could articulate the syndrome much better)...none of my business though :)

ylh,

I must say you have really changed for the better, bro. I`m proud of you! Now now before you think I`m being patronising or seducing you; please remember, I`ll forever be ready to slam you if you start reverting to your old self. Gotta admit, youre not falling for Saxena`s baits like before:)

{{and the mutual hatred that we have for each others` countries would subside into respect and tolerance for what those countries stand for.}}

Aw, comeon ylh, can you picture RSaxena ever being all friendly & mushy?! Foggetaboutit!! You should start developing an everlasting bond of friendship that Saxena & I have --based on pure hatred!! :)

The only good Saxena is a dead Saxena!

Rsaxena #256,

Go on, you haven`t even scratched the surface yet.

YLH #257,

Hey kid, Good luck with your endeavors with Rsaxena, GAndhi, and Jinnah. I`m sure your intentions are great and I admire your political strengths at such a tender age.

But NEVER EVER address me as Darling ever again.

I won`t reply to such nonsense in the future.

Even the usually badtameez Rsaxena hasn`t addressed me in such a chauvanistic condescending manner. Keep the pathetic terms of endearment to yourself.

Scout,

Darling, one piece of advice.... read the first amendment before you advocate its usage or otherwise. Believe me if there were more people on both sides like Rsaxena, and myself, willing to bang their heads against each other to come to a compromise, there would be a mutually acceptable solution to Kashmir. Instead we have people like you on both sides, unwilling, and too scared of talking, to ever arrive at a positive solution to the entire problem.

I have faith that by the time Rsaxena and I are done, Rsaxena would probably have changed his mind about Quaid e Azam, and I probably would be more at ease with Gandhi, and the mutual hatred that we have for each others` countries would subside into respect and tolerance for what those countries stand for. This might seem a little optimistic, but you never know.

-Yasser Hamdani

Re: scout

It`s interesting...just last week you sanctimoniously declared that this board has gone to ``lewds`` and ``crewds,`` with the implication that it was beneath you. Yet you kept buzzing around looking to somehow get involved...and finally you presented your treatise on ylh and me.

What does that say about you? It says you prefer lewds and crewds over the boring academics who answer every question with a suggestion to read some book to get the answer...but you won`t admit it. You are indeed a basket full of contradictions. (I won`t even go into your issues with liberalism.)

:)

krashid #254,

Yes they have :)

Scout #250

Your vigor shows that your exams have been very good. :-)

As for our dear friend there is a simile.

Na Jaye Raften Na Paye Mandun.

Na Rone Dete Hain Na Hansne.

re. #247 & #248

My mother always said to me: ``Beyta, God works in strange ways``

I think I just might be beginning to understand what she meant :)

ylh #246

I read with interest your link. (looks like it is your University newspaper)

The problem with our lands is not Islam.

It is the lack of money. Leading to many ills in society.

Although to some extent we are to blame for that.

But the dynamic West during its Colonial period did a great disservice to us.

1-It utilized our resources to its advantage. To the point that it banned making of cotton cloth by Bengal because their product would not sell in Indian market in competition. Also whoever defied it their thumbs were cut. It was superiority in trade which led to prosperity and enlightenment of West.

2- West also consciously destroyed our development and extended its machinery of exploitation in the form of so called local educated etc so that we cannot come to their competition by standing on our own feet.

Because of the heroic struggle of third world countries, West has retreated to some extent. But still the system works to their advantage at the expense of third world or South.

In fact this kind of clash between Right and Left is to the advantage of West.

What In my thinking we need is a more people oriented approach with education and economic opportunity and self sufficiency. These regressive forces you mentioned in your letter will themselves retreat as they did in West. Otherwise we will be wasting our energies on non issues much to the delight of Perpetrator of status quo.

Rsaxena #249,

Pleaseeeeeeee go ahead and turn on me. I don`t mind at all. I have the Punjabi fightsy blood in me. :)

(that`s what my Mohajir mom says)

ylh #245, `` believe I speak for Rsaxena too, when I say, kindly mind your own business.``

On a public forum like this, should there be question of minding one`s won business. :). If you`d like the conversations between you and Rsaxena to be private, I`d suggest exchanging emails and phone numbers, sandals maybe? ;)

`` Waisay what gender related confusion are you suffering from? Are you in the closer cuz I thought there were Boy Scouts, and Girl Guides..``

Sheesh, I knew you were naive, but this is horrendous. Girl Guides? Ever hear of girl scouts? What male chauvanist hole have you been living in?

``Hope you figure your internal contradictions out, before you decide insult Women from our enemy country.``

Oh boy, in an earlier post, didn`t you scold Rsaxena when he quoted you (``a good indian is a dead one``) not to bring up garhay murday?

Who`s bringing up garhay murday now?

You never cease to amuse me, thanks for the entertainment.

Don`t stop now :)

Re: scout

So would you rather have ylh and RSaxena turn on you next? Trust me, it would not be fun for you...Chowk will never be the same again :)

Re: ylh

``Let me assure you that most people of Pakistan will also grieve for the tremendous loss of life in your country.``

Nature and human suffering know no political boundaries...thanks for the kind words.

Rsaxena,

Let me assure you that most people of Pakistan will also grieve for the tremendous loss of life in your country. Kindly accept our condolences, and let us put an end to these sarcastic exchanges.

Sincerely

YLH

Asim, Zahra, Krashid, PM, etc

Thankyou for your kind words...

If you get a chance kindly visit the link below

http://www.dailytargum.com/sections/opinion/story/012601aaa.html

This is causing a lot of stir at Rutgers. There is one line though that I think I used which is more optimistic than true ...

``The Islam practised by most Pakistanis celebrates the values of freedom and humanity.``

Inshallah one day, this line will become true..and not just optimistic. With people like you around, it is quite possible that the day will be sooner.

Yours Sincerely

Yasser

Scout,

I believe I speak for Rsaxena too, when I say, kindly mind your own business.

Waisay what gender related confusion are you suffering from? Are you in the closer cuz I thought there were Boy Scouts, and Girl Guides.. :) Hope you figure your internal contradictions out, before you decide insult Women from our enemy country. Women anywhere should be respected, its the Govt we have a problem with.

Love

Yasser

Pankaj # 241,

:)

it`s fun making fun of them isn`t it....

Yasser:

No one cherishes payaa`s in the hot summers of Lahore. Halva-Puri is the summer thing! Kyaa Ho Gaya Hae?

I am planning to attend the event, so will see you there!

Take Care

Ylh #223

Some more reseacrch.

Saxena Babu Din Mey Banyun Ke Karobar Me Muawinat Karte Hain. Woh Is Tijori Ka Maal Us Tijori Mein Karte Hain Aur Is Kam Ki Rezgari Jama Karte Hain.

Kafi Masroof Aadmi Hain.

Milna Ho To Sham Dhale Parnale Pur Dhoti Pahne Her Aane Jane Wale Ko Haath Hilate Nazar Ayen Gai.

In Ki Pehchan Yeh Hai Ke aap Unhen Salaam Kijye to Aap Ko Gali Bakne Lagen Gai.

Jub Aap Unhen Pehchan Lain To Urdu/Hindi Ka Aik Lafz Bhi Naa Bolen.

Jese Hum arbi Ka Her Lafz Ilhami Samajthe Hain. Yeh Urdu/ Hindi Ka Her Lafz Gaali Samajthe Hain.

Scout #224

Extremely accurate and to the point! I liked the mela part. You know ``Kumbh mela`` is going on in India and close to 5000 are already reported lost out of 80 million. Who knows your version may be true. They(ylh and Rsaxena) may actually be lost brothers, if not in this birth then may be some other previous births! :-). Just kidding.

Cheers

Re: PM

``Are you sure you won`t reconsider on the other matter? :-) ``

I certainly will, providing you ask me nicely on the other matter :)

Sincerely,

Asim

Re : ylh #234

Very impressive, ylh. Keep up the good work, the jehad against bigotry. Sooner or later, your adversaries, if they have the character and integrity, that is, to acknlowledge the new you as being an intelligent and knowledgeable young man, which Rutgers could be truly proud of.

Dont be so preoccouped with the Rsaxena`s of this world. After all, we ned them to lighten up this place with their often humourous quips.:)

Asim

Zahra,

Thanks for the invitation, I will try to make it. Sure getting paye wouldnt be a big deal... though I ll go back to Lahore in the Summer, this year after I graduate. I am graduating a year early. Glad to know you are from Lahore too.

Once again thanks for the encouragement.

Fairindkhum,

Deep breath therapy works ... just kidding.

-Yasser.

P.S.

Yaseer,

I once asked for reference to Russell`s take on Jinnah. You didn`t reply.

btw, you might be interested in Arthur Koestler`s essay on the Mahatama. ``the Commissar and the Yogi`` from `The Heel of Achilles: Essays 1969-1978`. Don`t remember the publisher.

The essay offers a good demysitifed, de-deified appraisal of Ghandiji.

PPS.

don`t forget-- Russell.

re. ylh 234

``I rest my case!``

Good on ya. Now, just LET IT REST.

I fully second F_K`s advice to you on the other board. Don`t give Saxena the pleasure of drawing you back into these puerile exchanges. It`s not like anyone takes him seriously anyway. Surely you have better uses to which to put your time.

Sorry if this sounds a little patronizing. Actually, I wish someone would tell *me * when to `just let it go` sometimes :)

rgds,

Hello... very nice write-up, thanks! Thought provoking and interesting blend of Karachi and some Mall in the US of A. Cheerio...

=zensufi.com=

This is in response to the standard Rsaxena accusation levelled against me on almost every board ...``Iranian King you rewrite History``

For the record I have always stated the view held by other authors. Kindly take a look at the list of authors I have used for my various posts.

1) Bernard Lewis

2) John L Esposito

3) Edward Jurji

4) Wilfred Cantwell Smith (selectively)

5) Harold Lamb

6) Montgommery Watt

7) Bernard Russel

8) George Orwell

9) Stanley Wolpert

10)Ayesha Jalal

11)Raj Mohan Gandhi

12)S Bandopadhya

13)Beverley Nichols

14)Martin Gilbert

Typical Mocking Rsaxena response

[``Iranian King/Bakra/Jihadi/Mullah/Pimplefaced``

Your authors are unknown, and you rewrite History, and you have no knowledge, and You wage Jihad! So you are of no value, and I wont debate with you and you put up 500 posts!]

I rest my case!

:)

re. Asim Hayat

Yes, it was a getting a little puerile. Ok, a lot!

On the `unrelated note`, I *did * read the article you mentioned, and did interact, though not as Patrick Maseeh. Patrick Masheeh wasn`t invented back then. :)

rgds,

PM

P.S. Are you sure you won`t reconsider on the other matter? :-)

Re: Rsaxena #213

Rsaxena wrote,..``Re: Zahra Bhaji``

Zahra, dekho tumhai yeh indian buffoon kia keh raha hai! :)

Asim

``in phappeykutna mode``

P.S is not bhaji some vegetable mixture!, he asked quizzically. :)

ylh,

what kind of majoon are you taking? you have improved like nobody`s business! Good for you!

``So what were you saying about your reasoning abilities, again``

What`s the use? It takes *some * reasoning ability to understand.``

Touche`. Let us just end it right here?

On another unrelated note, di u use to write under another alias, called Patrick Maseeh by any chance. I remmeber the name, as once many eons ago, i had written about the state of affairs of Christians in Pakistan, and that fellow was very supportive of my efforts.

Even if you are not him, i hope you know, that i am not the sort of guy who would ``send the boys around to pay u a visit in the middle of the night`` for your liberties. At least not just yet! :)

Sincerely,

Asim

Ylh #223

RSaxena Ki Jhuggi Brooklyn Bridge Ke Parnale Pur Hai.

Kafi Badbu Rehti Hai.

Kabhi Manhattan Aana Ho Aur Brooklyn Bridge Se Guzro To Bagher Puche Ghar Ka Pata Chal Jata Hai.

Re: aicha #219

``you did make a little sense``

Now, now i am really offended that i made a little sense, as opposed to no sense, which is what i generally aim for, as PM can testify. :)

I can see nothing serious can ever get discussed here what with this place being curses by the indian brigade, the ``I am so cool, therefore i must be paksitani`` brigade, ``Mullah`s rock`` brigade, and various others who deserve a honourable mention but which fail my memory. So I decided to just stick with adhominem, much like these brigades, or to just write fro fun, once again much like these brigades.

Hope you dont mind!

Asim

``the conversation destroyer``

Sincerely,

Asim

scout (re. 224)

There you go again, girl! :)

re. Asim #222

``So what were you saying about your reasoning abilities, again``

What`s the use? It takes *some * reasoning ability to understand.

:)

This is starting to be fun now, isn`t it? :-)

rgds,

PM

Dear Yasser:

Haven`t you heard:

Chala Jaa`ta Hoon Hunstaa Kheltaa`Mauj`ae`Havadus Main
Agur Asaa`niyaan Hoa`n Zindagi Dushvaa`r Ho Jayae`

Whenever you see your adversaries trying to overpower you, just hum the above melody. :-) :-) Khud Hee 9-2-11 Ho Jain Gae`! Thanks for the link. Send me your email address as I can put you on my mailing list. There are quite a few interesting events that take place in NY/NJ/CT and DC area[in short, east coast] and I am sure you`d like to be part of them. By the way, whenever you are off to my hometown, Lahore [background song - Bruce Springsteen`s ``My Hometown`` tuntooo tuntooo tuntooo], let me know. I may have to ask you to bring me the best of the culinary delights: payae` with maghaz(brain masala) & kulchaa`s :-). I hope they will survive the flight. I had quite a few sumptuous meals few months back while I was in Lahore. I miss payae (tears). Hope that wouldn`t be a problem!

Take Care

PS: You may find the following interesting!

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YLH and Rsaxena, Two peas that got separated from the Pod, one went to India, the other Pakistan.

Same character, same values, same attitudes.

Both claim to be liberals, yet leave no opportunity to attack each other`s countries in the most narrow minded manner.

One attacks Gandhi, while the other Jinnah.

Both put too much value in the Ivy League system, and think that either going to an IL university and belonging to one that is close to an IL university justifies their ``high`` level of intellectual development.

Both cheer on people who have something negative to say about the other`s country.

You guys should get together seriously. Brothers lost in the mela of life.

Maybe you guys could go shoe shopping in Manhattan together. Please take pictures.

500 posts :)

Anyway, I am sorry, I thought you were in India cuz I thought you once said you were. I apologize. I didnt know you were so ashamed of your homeland.

Soweeee

Love

YLH

RE: PM

``So, perceived ambiguity in arguments (rendered ambiguous by the reader`s inability to make cognitive connections or to simply remember things) are indicative of poor reasoning abilities??``

hmmm. Speculation is a bad bad thing, mr PM !

So what were you saying about your reasoning abilities, again

Asim

Re: ylh

``As for the Kashmir rally, I am still looking for like minded people, because I dont want to make a mockery of the cause by hoarding the US with Beardos and fundoos!``

Well, whenever you do it, I`d be grateful if you let me know. (Why don`t you recruit some people from Chowk?)

Re: shankar

Nice try. You`ll have to do better than that...what did you think, I was as easy ylh?

Asim Hayat - on second thoughts - you did make a little sense - too bad it registered a bit tto late - so here goes - re my oops - i sit corrected

Re: ylh

``The signs of defeat are visible..``

Defeat? When, where and with whom was the battle? Is this how you support your ego? With imagined battles and victories on Chowk?

``You are incapable of indulging in an intellectual discourse..``

Intellectual discourse with YOU??? You`re joking right?

``The fact that you havent ever visited the US, makes you unqualified to render judgements on any school in the US.``

Hmm, now this is curious. Were you having one of your all-too-familiar fits when you wrote this? When I checked at lunchtime, I was still in the U.S....unless India now has a huge white population. And as for judging schools, last time I checked my alma mater was still listed there in the Ivy League...unless it got kicked out and replaced by Rutgers recently; in which case, I humbly bow to you.

Re: Rsaxena and pick shoes obssession

``I`ve got the perfect pink pair in mind for you.``

Sir, do u have a passion for ballet?I have seen enough pink floppy elephants, pirouetting about the stage, to really put me off the real thing :)

Asim

As for the Kashmir rally, I am still looking for like minded people, because I dont want to make a mockery of the cause by hoarding the US with Beardos and fundoos!

Rsaxena,

The signs of defeat are visible in your frustrated personal attacks. Garhay murday nikalnay say parhhez kijiyee! ``A good Indian is a dead Indian`` was said in response to your tirade against Pakistanis and then the moderate Shankar`s official support for your actions.

Yes thankyou for admitting it. You are incapable of indulging in an intellectual discourse not just with me, but anyone, as is evident by all your posts on Chowk.

And by the way, stick to relevant analogies next time since you are India, talk in Indian standards... Maruti 800 perhaps? The fact that you havent ever visited the US, makes you unqualified to render judgements on any school in the US.

Have a nice day...

Love

Yasser

PS For the record I never used any religious slogans, ... I leave that to devout Gandhians!

re. Asim Hayat

``I have no idea what you are on about, here. Its alright, i have come to associate vague, highly ambiguous arguments to your kind self. Even some perennial fools have better reasoning abilities. I am sure you have ``other`` virtues too. :)``

So, perceived ambiguity in arguments (rendered ambiguous by the reader`s inability to make cognitive connections or to simply remember things) are indicative of poor reasoning abilities??

hmmm... how very... reasonable!

rgds,

Re: Zahra Bhaji

``God be with you! Say all your bhajjans before it is too late!``

May I start a Jehad too before it is too late? With Allah`s help I can blow up many a kafir.

Rsaxena,

The new, improved ylh is kicking your butt. Now shutup & take your medicine like a man.

Scout:
I will let you handle this chap - I am not in the habit of trespassing anyone`s territory. He is acting like Elizabeth Taylor in ``The taming of the Shrew.`` Please be the Richard Burton and put him back to his place!

Good Luck!!!


Saxena:

God be with you! Say all your bhajjans before it is too late!

Asim Hayat #178

Just observation.

Since you are defending Lahore/Lahoriites and to write about them in not a bad manner.

There is nothing wrong in writing something about a place or people by anybody.

Instead of telling other people not to write in bad manner, you can do otherwise.

Nothing personal against a people or group because each individual is different.

Re: PM

``What exactly is it that you find so `foolish` about Jinnah`s character anyway? Sheesh, man,..``

Sshhh, just play along for now, will ya ;)

Zahra

If you ever get the chance visit

http://www.siqafat.cjb.net and join in on the discussions.... :)

Yasser

Zahra

Thankyou for your encouragement. It is nice to know that people say good things about me, though recently I was under the impression that none of the young ladies at Rutgers had anything nice to say about me, owing to the recent propaganda against me by the Islamic Society.

There have been many times that I have taken pride in what you post, as a fellow Pakistani. It is indeed satisfying to know that people like yourself, OmarPheonix, Omar Mirza, and Sarwari, are out there.

As Iqbal says so well,

``jawanon ko peeron ka ustaad kar``

Pakistan Zindabad :)

Re: PM and tantrums.

``you didn`t think my satirical parallels between Nabokov and the Prophet was so funny, now did ya?``

Dear Sir,

I have no idea what you are on about, here. Its alright, i have come to associate vague, highly ambiguous arguments to your kind self. Even some perennial fools have better reasoning abilities. I am sure you have ``other`` virtues too. :)

Sincerely,

Asim

Re: #!98

``Me, i just love driving it(the Porsche), to get far away ``from the `maddening` crowds`` of chowk on weekends :)``

Though i much prefer the battered old 1989 Corolla

for such exploits; It makes it easier for me to be recognised as a pakistani in US.

Last independence day here on the west coast, i was not sure where the big party was being celebrated. So i stopped by on Eddy street(home of pakistani restauranst), to ask for directions. A young pakistani guy, working the charcoal grill, with hands spotted with seekh kebab qeema, told me,..``Oh Sirji, tussie wi apni jiyoun corolla wekh kar, unhaun day peecahy lag jaoo, aaaj tey sarian corolla Presidio Park jaa rahiyaan ne; fikar na karyo, gawachdey nahiyoun tusaaan``

Needless to say, his directions were impeccable. And i ended up at the said park, to be shocked to see so many Pakistanis in one place, roaming freely. and having fun. The food was altogether a different story, but i digress.

Sincerely,

Asim

P.S Hope yMr Fairdinkum sahib does not see the above as paki-bashing! but then again, he may!:)

Asim Hayat

ahah - i see you finally did get por``s``che right : ) agreed you probably dont need to get the sp right before you drive one but needless to say you need to get them right before you start correcting others : ) true??

about the atrocious/ferocious bit - what can i say - you either get it or you dont - explaining it - umm... whats the pt

oh re monumental egos are you familiar with the saying (i`ll keep it simple this time) - it takes one to know one. pls dotn go down the ``i am not an intellectual`` road again - i give your intelligence more credit than that!!

and can we pls drop the bibiji?? I like my name just the way it is

aicha

``P.S Are you not the one who asked me where did i hail from? Can you spell chichoun ki mallian? ``

wasnt me and spell that - ofcourse thats a breeze but how in god`s name do you pronounce it

Rshivsena #196,

Yes, and that woman is..........(Drum roll).....

our very own...........

Zahra baji

hehe

ps: Zahra baji, I still have my sword if you need me.

Re: ylh

``The fact that you lack any ability to have a decent dialogue, or an intellectual discourse is evident in your use of words like ``Bakra``, ``Burkah``, ``Iranian King`` etc.``

You want me to have an intellectual discourse with you??? You`re kidding right?

Let`s start a brilliant ylh quote of the day. Here`s today`s: ``Only good Indian is a dead one.`` Man that ``Ivy League`` education is doing wonders.

``You thrive on mockery...``

With a target like you, who wouldn`t.

As for 500 posts, I`ve responded one-for-one. Very different from the 500 (to no one in particular) that you launched off on on several boards. Now shoo write your pathetic little comeback.

ALLAH`S-`HO-AKBAR

WASSUP???ALAM

PS: What happened to that Kashmir rally you were organizing in front of the UN? Several visitors have asked about cheap off-Broadway options...please do let me know.

Re: Asim

``Its called wit, Rsaxena to use your words to make you look likke a plonker!``

Ah, self-declaration of wit...that`s always a sign of wit. Ooohhh, you soooo wittttty....

``P.S Hey you did not tell me if you have been to some new year ferragamo shoe sales??``

Hmmm....I`ve got the perfect pink pair in mind for you. But what if one of your wives snatches them from you? And would they match your shalwar and turban? Will they bring out the highlights in your knotty beard? Pictures please.

Ali1 (#176) claims that world-wide people are exercising more and eating better and therefore have better cardio-vascular health than in 1969.

I don`t think so -- first, the US. Consider the proliferation of fast food. Macdonald`s went public in 1965, and the big Mac was introduced in 1968. Now it is present world-wide. Same with the other fast food joints. More than half of US adults are now overweight, and a quarter are obese, and the prevalence of this has steadily increased among all racial and ethnic groups in the US over the last thirty years.

As the world Americanizes, it hits the same health problems.

In any case, the statistic you are interested in is easily found on the web -- e.g., take a look at

http://www.menstuff.org/books/byissue/singles.html

-Arun Gupta

Rsaxena:``Machinations with words is about the only way Asim and The Turd could`ve extracted something out of that post``

Its called wit, Rsaxena to use your words to make you look likke a plonker!

BTW, why are you calling Ali1 a turd? :)

Sincerely

Asim

P.S I would not worry too much about it, if you are alien to such a concept! :)

P.S Hey you did not tell me if you have been to some new year ferragamo shoe sales??

Re: Aicha bibiji...

``my sp maybe atrocious but rest assured not ferocious``

Dear Miss Bibiji,

I fail to understand your rebuttal in its entirety. You know i am not an intellectaul stalwart like many notable readers and writers., so your above wit just went north og mysefl.

On a related note, It is amusing to note that we, the learned Chowk readers have egos the size of cathedrals, despite being outdone. Dont you agree, bibiji.

Good thing, you can spell Porsche. Me, i just love driving it, to get far away ``from the `maddening` crowds`` of chowk on weekends :)

Sincerely,

Asim

P.S Are you not the one who asked me where did i hail from? Can you spell chichoun ki mallian? :)

In response to Rsaxena,

Well we can clearly see who is putting 500 posts up now, and who is not :). The fact that you lack any ability to have a decent dialogue, or an intellectual discourse is evident in your use of words like ``Bakra``, ``Burkah``, ``Iranian King`` etc.

You thrive on mockery, and thus are an unproductive and substandard wannabe satirist.

Only the other day you called sources like Bertrand Russel, Orwell, Hodson, and Nichols etc as outdated, and substandard. My question to the rest of the Indians is that is this a standard Indian attitude? and if Yes then Maharaj Rsaxena kindly advise on which Pandit Swami hari Rama, I should read to be enlightened with the truth?

By the way, I am positive you still havent read the book by S Bandopadhya, a devout Gandhian, called ``Quaid e Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah``... but

hey, thats your loss. Do read some of the work on Jinnah by Gandhi`s grandson though.... one can safely conclude from RajMohan`s work that not all Indians suffer from same kind of complexes as our dear friend Rsaxena does.

Love, sada jiyo phoolo phalo

-Yasser Hamdani

Pakistani woman with a death wish.

{{{NEW DELHI: Police on Wednesday stepped up a massive hunt for a Muslim female bomber who heads a list of people likely to stage suicide attacks during Friday`s Republic Day parade in New Delhi. Detectives also released a photograph of a male and identified him as Ejaz Rasool, saying he led a suicide squad which planned to target Home Minister Lal Krishna Advani.

The unnamed woman suicide bomber was described Wednesday as a member of the Jaish-e-Mohammad Muslim guerrilla group, which has rejected the second extension of India`s unilateral ceasefire in Kashmir.

``She is sophisticated and highly-motivated,`` an official from the Intelligence Bureau told AFP and added the Pakistan-based woman, trained in combat and guerrilla attacks, had already ``sneaked`` into the Indian capital.}}}

Ali1 #177

so sorry to burst your bubble but if you consider the orientals - thjere goes your theory of growth being proportional to animal protein intake.

Asim Hayat wrote

``On second thoughts let me change your appelation from a perennial fool to one not blessed with a funny bone too. Good for you, i might add! or maybe not. :)``

If replacing words in an analogy (with or without nudges and winks) to reverse it`s meaning is to be seen as funny then I admit, I must be humour-challenged. (though I`d rather think of it as a blessing-- to have some standards for funny)

rgds,

PM

PS.. you didn`t think my satirical parallels between Nabokov and the Prophet was so funny, now did ya?



RSaxena:

What exactly is it that you find so `foolish` about Jinnah`s character anyway? Sheesh, man, I gotta tell ya, sometimes you rant on like a mirror image of the mullahs whose blind dogatism you despise. I really AM intersted to know what influenced your low opinion of the man. Could it be (shudder shudder!) that you`re a every bit a victim (I`m being generous here:)) of propaganda as you accuse our friend ylh of being?

rgds,

RSaxena:
I thought you were very well treated in my previous post! Chapter Closed!

On a relatively lighter note, Yasser`s response was very amusing and witty. You have to give the devil its due, no matter how hard it is for you!

OK!


Yasser:

Your wit and humor is beautiful! It`s very impressive to find well read youngsters who are aware of their culture and roots. Commendable!
In real life, there are more educated Jahil`ae`Mutliqs than learned beings on the face of earth and one simply feels like throwing them in Hudson River.[That`s the closest to me, otherwise I would dabo-fyed them in Ravi or Chenab. Jhelum is too dear to me]

I was at a dinner few months back and came across some students from Rutgers. While we were talking on certain issues, a young woman mentioned your name as a very knowledgeable resource and well read guy on Late Jinnah. I have been meaning to tell you that, but totally forgot. My apologies! Now as I saw you describing Jinnah and fighting against the ``interesting`` analogies of your adversaries, I had to break the news :-)

Take Care!

PS: Your new style is effective! It serves the purpose!

!!!Keep it up!!!

Mr Hayat

my sp maybe atrocious but rest assured not ferocious!

btw - it is Porsche with the s unless you are referring to someone`s verandah in which case it is minus the e : )

kindest rgds

Ali1 - will reply later when i get a min`s fursut!!

Asim Hayat

Thankyou. I am glad that you liked it.

Rsaxena,

I wonder who is really delusional. It is not my intention to pass a verdict on History, or change your opinion. It is unfortunate but a fact that Good things are scarce.

:)

Hope you ll grow beyond your narrow biases.

-Yasser

Asim Hayat

Thankyou. I am glad that you liked it.

Rsaxena,

I wonder who is really delusional. It is not my intention to pass a verdict on History, or change your opinion. It is unfortunate but a fact that Good things are scarce.

:)

Hope you ll grow beyond your narrow biases.

-Yasser

RE: PM

``(as I see even the the coolly aloof Zahra bibi couldn`t resist doing).``

``Zahra bibi`` has been a little angry since I asked her to stop personal attacks on Solitude (who unlike most of us, doesn`t do that). So she is looking for some little itsy bitsy opportunity to come back.

``However, after taking a second look at your post, I can only say I am relieved-- relieved at the fact that, perennial fool though I may be, at least no one could accuse me of being blatantly dishonest!``

Machinations with words is about the only way Asim and The Turd could`ve extracted something out of that post.

Re: ylh

I think who`s a pre-schooler and who is not (not that there`s anything wrong with pre-schoolers) is well known. Who just complained, ``Chowk Staff, Chowk Staff, look what he did to me...aren`t you going to do something?`` And ``Chowk Staff, Chowk Staff, you are really unfair ... [sob, sob]...there is an imposter here who is trying to make me look like a fool...stop him or I`ll hold my breath till I turn blue.`` (Of course Chowk Staff preferred to have you hold your breath till you didn`t have a breath, but you denied them.)

By the way, did you attend an Ivy League pre-school too? I gotta hand it to you buddy, that Rutgers-is-an-Ivy-League school line is a classic. Then you ranted about your acceptance to Rochester too...even scout couldn`t resist that one.

Re: Asim

``Touche`, Mr ylh. Best ``rebuke`` i have read this fine, rainy evening! :), even better than your earlier Porche alia Jinnah one. :)``

Oh dear. My little expose of that fool Jinnah seems to have tickled you the wrong way under your burkha. As for his ``rebuke,`` well, your reaction to it is rather revealing about you. I thought you more intelligent than that...

``P.S sorry RSaxena Sahib. YLh got you clean bowled once more.No need to throw a tantrum fit now.``

No Sir, I don`t throw tantrum fits. I think ylh has safely taken that crown. Witness his past patterns....he gets needled like one would a bleating bakra (credit shankar) , posts 500 long posts in a fit of sweat and fury, and finally runs off in protest of the imposters.

PM wrote: Asim Hayat, re. #166 on bachelors on chowk...

``A little `credit` where due would really hurt you, y`know. Translation does not consititute originality``

My dear man, I am afraid you lost me on that one completely. Did i mention that i dont know Swahili that very well. Possibly not:)

Clean bowled! the stumps are uprooted, and the bails went flying over the wicketkeepers balding head.

Its alright you still have the next innings to bowl me out like that again. I am an easy wicket, if you start using ``watta/underhanded bowling``. Trust me!

Sincerely

Asim

PM wrote,..``However, after taking a second look at your post, I can only say I am relieved-- relieved at the fact that, perennial fool though I may be, at least no one could accuse me of being blatantly dishonest``

On second thoughts let me change your appelation from a perennial fool to one not blessed with a funny bone too. Good for you, i might add! or maybe not. :)

Did you see that big nudge nudge sign next to the ``modified`` statement. The next time you want to go on a holier than thou rampage, please see to it that you dont make an utter fool of yourself.

Whats the use. Whom ``AM I TALKING TO`` :)

Sincerely,

Asim

Re: Ylh reply #182...

``Mr Saxena rest assure I dont want that. Not everyone is a preschooler like yourself :)``

Touche`, Mr ylh. Best ``rebuke`` i have read this fine, rainy evening! :), even better than your earlier Porche alia Jinnah one. :)

Asim

P.S sorry RSaxena Sahib. YLh got you clean bowled once more.No need to throw a tantrum fit now. It will not change the verdict.

P.S Been to some Salvatore Ferragamo bashes lately??? I saw this wonderful pair going for a song at 550 bucks; Except i cant sing so well to save my life, let alone bargain it for a 550 bucks pair of shoes. I still look at that pair, and hope that come christmas sale again, they dont run out of that hot number. Soometimes, i do think that shoe beckons me, and whispers to be ``taken``.

RSaxena #168

After reading Asim Hayat`s supposed exposure of your gaffe, I was about to join in the party laughing at you (as I see even the the coolly aloof Zahra bibi couldn`t resist doing).

However, after taking a second look at your post, I can only say I am relieved-- relieved at the fact that, perennial fool though I may be, at least no one could accuse me of being blatantly dishonest!

rgds

PM



Asim Hayat, re. #166 on bachelors on chowk...

A little `credit` where due would really hurt you, y`know. Translation does not consititute originality.

rgds,

PI

Rsaxena

``And what do you want them to do after they have taken notice of whatever it is you`re complaining about? Scold me and tell me to sit in the corner?``

Mr Saxena rest assure I dont want that. Not everyone is a preschooler like yourself :)

Love

YLH

Re: ylh

You are laughable. First the Rutgers-is-an-Ivy-League-Institution crap, now this. So because no one gives a rat`s behind about Jinnah, it means he was brilliant since his intelligence was far beyond the grasp of the rest of the world???? How delusional can you get! You can either climb down to reality on your own or one day someone will kick you down and it will hurt.

This otherwise interesting board has fallen into the hands of the CRUDES and LEWDS(Rsaxena & co with the recent recruit of Ali), not to mention the little stubborn whiner (YLH).

You guys are worse than women with your ``he said, he said`` bickering amongst each other.

tsk tsk... what a waste of neurons.

And now they will conveniently get together to say something negative about me.

I`m waiting patiently.

``Havent you all heard of bacheloreatte (i know attrocious sp) parties?? ``

What is far more atrocious is your spelling of ``attrocious``. :)

Ciao,

Asim

Re: Ali #174

``You, who thinks that Rehan shouldn`t write about Lahore and its heera mandi since he is of the matarwa origin, have no right to point fingers at others. ``

Ali,

I never stated in my reply that you accused me of being that kurranta whatever. All i stated was that in exchnage for my half joking ideas, you went ballistic. Thats all.

Regarding your above statement(``in quotes``), once again, you are being liberal with the truth. Let me repeat for your benefit, my reply to Urstruly, which was written in that debacle of an article,.``Udaas naslein``. Pay attention this time, and i honestly would not be this nice, the next time you try to be selective in your quotes which you attribute to me.

Re : Reply Urstruly #38 from interact of Udaas naslein replies.

Urstruly had written:

``I have absolutely no problem with anyone who writes about Lahore/Punjab-regradless of his ethnicity``

My reply to Urstruly

Dost, Neither do I. All i ask for is impartiality, and a conscientious respect for the subject matter at hand, to not distort it to suit your ``in vogue`` pereceptions. Period!

Hope that suffices for the time being.

Its good to see that Ali1, you are still captivated by bodily functions and usage of expressions by 18yr old males in Pakistan, such as Mr Smarty Pants. :)

Sincerely,

Asim

aicha # 171

[``So, instead of poking fun at Indian males who are not that intrinsically diff from their Pak counterparts....``]

hamidm can read you a long list of intrinsic differences b/w Indian and Pakistani males :-)

Do you think that ones ``growth`` would be normal without sufficient intake of animal proteins?? Like someone (ok ok that someone was me) said earlier about Tamil Brahmins: dudes who can`t hold their head/neck steady for more than 30 seconds wouldn`t be able to keep the thingy up for more than 15.

macgupta: Tamil brahmin average is 7 seconds (not minutes), which is essentially less than Tamil rabbits.

RE: macgupta 163

Cardiovascular health awareness has increased exponentially in the past 3