Eathquake Hits India And Pakistan

``Do they not see that they are tried every year, once or twice? Yet they turn not in repentance, and they take no heed`` [Tawbah:126]



Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim

On the night of the 17th of August, 1999 at 3:02 after midnight, the earthquake (measuring 7.4) struck violently in the Marmara region in Northwest Turkey. The quake`s epicentre was in Golcuk, the site of the naval and armed forces bases (these bases have played an important role in what is called the `period of the 28th of February` i.e. the place from which Islam is fought).

``Those before them indeed plotted, but Allah struck at the foundations of their building, and then the roof fell down upon them, from above them, and the torment overtook them from directions they did not perceive`` [al-Nahl:26]

``Do then those who devise evil plots feel secure that Allah will not sink them into the earth, or that the torment will not seize them from directions they perceive not? Or that He may catch them in the midst of their going to and fro, so that there be no escape for them (from Allah`s Punishment) Or that He may catch them with a gradual wasting (of their wealth and health)`` [al-Nahl:45-47]

This is to strike fear and remind the people so that they take heed and fear Allah. Allah (swt) sends it according to the laws of the universe with which Allah has organised the motion of the universe.

In this earthquake approximately 40,000 people died and a similar number were injured. Tens of thousands of houses were destroyed and many industrial complexes (such as that in Tibrash) were terribly damaged. Many roads were also damaged. This earthquake inflicted damage on the whole of Turkey, billions of dollars have gone to dust and the state is planning to impose taxes on the people ...!!

Indeed, if the people do not take a lesson from the earthquake that took place in Turkey and return to their Lord, then their hearts have been seized by sins and evil deeds. Especially, the people in power and authority who, since 1924, have been publicly declaring their open Kufr and committing Munkar. The situation has gone from bad to worse:

1. On the 3rd of March, 1924 the Khilafah was destroyed, the foundation for applying the Shari`ah. Through its abolition Islam was removed from the battlefield of life and the Jahili system became dominant. The birth of the republic was announced and Shirk against Allah was committed. They rejected and attacked the Khilafah and still (to this day) continue to attack it. For society`s part it did not defend the Khilafah and nor did it adopt it. It even joined the enemies of Islam in their (evil) deed and the republic came to be considered a good thing.

2. After this, secularism was adopted and Islam was in actuality removed from life. They declared a comprehensive war on Islam, the basis of which was secularism, considering the application of Allah`s rules and the adoption of Islam as a basis of the social and political life to be of the greatest sins. They disbelieved in the Law (Shari`ah) of Allah under the name of secularism and the society took the stance of an onlooker until, at times, it even defended secularism.

3. They forced the Azan to be given in the Turkish language and for worships to be performed in Turkish and forged other such lies. With these lies they wanted to distance the people from their deen. Also they wanted to introduce `Turkish Islam` or `Islamic Turkism` so as to distance the people from what they called `the Islam of the Arabs`. They forbade the Azan to be given in Arabic (in the beginning) and they prohibited the learning and teaching of the Qur`an. Even today, the learning of the Qur`an and its teaching is banned for those under the age of 12. All of this takes place, and the society stands as a bystander as if nothing had happened.

4. They forbade the lawful Hijab of women. Up to the present moment, most women, female students and employees are banned from wearing the legally prescribed dress. Many women wearing Hijab have been compelled by force to take off their Hijab and the society does not show any reaction. As if that has no effect on its emotions. The reactions came only within the framework of human rights and the freedoms and other such un-Islamic sayings.

5. The usury that Allah forbade is still openly used in bank transactions, as if they are declaring war on Allah and His Messenger. Allah (swt) said:

``O you who believe! Fear Allah and give up what remains (due to you) from riba (usury) (from now onward), if you are really believers. And if you do not do it, then take a notice of war from Allah and His Messenger`` [al-Baqara:278-279]

The society does not budge an inch until even some government Shaykhs gave Fatwa permitting it.

6. At a time when schools for the memorisation and teaching of the Qur`an have been closed down, places such as clubs, casinos and brothels still operate publicly day and night. The state even, at times, does not hesitate in rewarding them with badges and medals. The society does not move in the slightest, adopting the stance of an onlooker. Thus in Turkey, the consumption of alcohol increases, in this she is at the forefront amongst the countries of the world. Indecency and fornication spreads and the people`s morals are corrupted.

7. At a time when the state bans people from saying the truth and fact, it allows the publication of books by apostates such as, Salman Rushdie, Aziz Naseen and others, under the slogan of freedom of thought and expression. The society remains apathetic adopting the position of a spectator.

8. In all transactions the orders and prohibitions of Allah are not heeded. All treaties and contracts are concluded on an invalid basis. The haram continues to spread, there is hardly a belly into which a morsel of haram has not entered.

9. Since the period of 28th February and until today the state has incessantly taken decisions under the slogan of what is called fighting against backwardness. They declared a comprehensive war against Islam and the Muslims. This war still continues in all its guises. On the other hand, the society does not support the truth, even to the point of not defending those who do speak the word of truth.

These, in short, are the actions which are undertaken by a handful of the Jews of Dunma (the hidden state) who are in charge of the affairs of this country and afflicting it with a horrible torment. We have noticed the reactions shown by sections of society in terms of the leaders, organisations, wealthy, Ulama and writers that they are not what should be, and that they have not stood in the face of oppression and Munkar as they ought to have done.

The potentials today are plentiful and many, the society has the ability to show its reaction on the level demanded of it in the face of the oppressive group. However, this has not happened. The people are silent, they do not say the truth. They have displayed humiliating and disgraceful attitudes. Thus, this reminder has come to them from Allah (swt):

``And if the people of the towns had believed and feared Allah, certainly, We would have opened for them blessings from the heaven and the earth, but they belied (the Messengers). So we took them (with punishment) for what they used to earn.`` [al-A`raf:96]

And He (swt) says:

``And fear the Fitna (affliction, trial) which affects not in particular (only) those of you who do wrong, and know that Allah is Severe in punishment`` [al-Anfal:25]

Abu Dawud has narrated on the authority of Qays b. Abi Hazm: ``That Abu Bakr (r.a.) after he had glorified and praised Allah (swt) he said: O people! You read this ayah but you do not understand it: ``O you who believe! Guard your own souls: If you follow the right guidance none can hurt you from those who have gone astray`` [al-Maida:105] I heard the Messenger of Allah say: ``The people when they see the tyrant and do not restrain his hands, Allah will be about to punish them all``. And I heard the Messenger of Allah say: ``Any people amongst whom sins are committed, and they could change them but they did not (change), Allah will be about to bring a punishment which engulfs all.`` [Abu Dawud: Book of Battles/3775]

And the Messenger of Allah said: ``By the One in Whose Hands my soul rests, you must enjoin the good and forbid the evil or Allah will be about to send upon you a punishment. Then you will make du`a to Him and He will not answer you`` [Ahmad b. Hanbal:22212]

The Messenger said: ``The example of the person abiding by Allah`s order and restrictions in comparison to those who violate them is like the example of those persons who drew lots for their seats in a boat. Some of them get seats in the upper deck, and the others in the lower. When the latter needed water, they had to go up to bring water (and that troubled the others), so they said, `Let us make a hole in our share of the ship (and get water) saving those who are above us from troubling them`. So, if the people in the upper deck left the others to do what they had suggested, all the people of the ship would be destroyed, but if they prevented them, both parties would be safe`` [Bukhari: Book of Partnership/3775]

* O leaders and politicians!: Take heed of what has befallen you, fear Allah and leave your transgression and oppression. And be servants of Allah so that you may gain success. If you do not take heed then perish in your rage. And know that you and your Kufr system will be in the lowest depths of the hellfire. And your end will come at the hands of the Muslims in the immediate future. In shaa Allah.

* O officers and people of responsibility in the army!: Fear Allah and be His servants and not the servants of the republic. Be a guard over the Aqeeda, the source of your power and dignity. Do not be the agents of Shaytan but the army of Allah. Do not be a puppet in the hand of a handful of the Jews of the Dunma but defenders of the Ummah. Know that martyrdom can never be attained except by fighting jihad in the path of Allah to raise the word of truth. Do not shed your blood in vain in the path of Shaytan. Strike on the hands of the Jews of Dunma in the army. Know that if you go with Shaytan your fate will be one of utter loss in the Hereafter.

* O Ulama and Imams!: Fear Allah and do not hide the truth while you know the truth. Or else you deserve the curse of Allah, His Messenger and His angels. Be good Imams to the Ummah and let not your knowledge and establishment of the prayer be a means for earning a living. Do not sell the Ayaat of Allah for a filthy price. Know that the torment of Jahannam is severe and that Power belongs to Allah and not to the republic. Speak the truth and be firm. Do not clothe truth with falsehood. And do not utter what the state has written for you in terms of the Khutbah`s that are filled with Kufr and falsehood from the Minbar on the day of Juma`a. Do not call to falsehood but work for the establishment of Islam, you will attain success in the Dunya and Akhira.

* O leaders of groups!: Fear Allah! Be an example of Taqwa and not disobedience. And instil in the hearts of people the vitality and courage of Iman, not cowardice or fear. Put an end to your obstinacy and do not slacken in applying what Allah has obliged on the Muslims. Work sincerely to establish the Khilafah state, to establish the sovereignty (Hakimiyya) of the deen of Allah and carry the Message of Islam as a guidance to the world. Be among the believers and do not stand as an obstacle between your groups and those believers who are working to establish the rule of Allah on earth by establishing the Khilafah.

* O writers and publishers!: Fear Allah! Let your books be for the truth and do not mix the truth with the falsehood in your books. Do not publish or propagate what the Orientalists and the enemies of the Ummah carry in terms of poisons and diseases.

* O wealthy people of the Ummah and landowners!: Fear Allah and know that whatever you possess will run out and whatever Allah owns will last forever. Defend your deen more than you defend your property. Spend your money in the path of Allah and work, using your wealth, to establish the righteous Khilafah state in order to carry the guidance and light of Islam to the whole world. Fear the Day when no wealth or sons will be of benefit to you.

* O Muslims!: Fear Allah and know your enemy from your friend. And know that this republic is your enemy and the reason for the calamities and disasters that have befallen you. As long as the republic is above your heads you will not be rid of these calamities. It does not attach any importance to you. So in most government circles you see for yourself the bad treatment you face. It keeps raising the price for you. It hates your deen and beliefs and bans you from Allah`s commands, His Messenger and His Book under the slogan of backwardness. Thus, they consider Hijab to be a dress that is incompatible with the time and they prohibit it from entering government circles. The book that you believe in `the Qur`an` they have banned it from being taught to your children. Just as you have witnessed in the recent earthquake, that the Republic was not concerned about your dead or injured. Your dead were left in the courtyards until one could smell their stench. Without any value or respect given to them they were discarded in mass graves using bulldozers! Is it reasonable for a state which does not attach any importance to you while you are living that it should see you as important after you are dead ?! If that is the case, then why do you carry the burden of the Kufr state on your necks?

* O Muslims!: If you desire power, dignity and respect then work for the rule of Allah`s Shari`ah on the earth by establishing the righteous Khilafah. Otherwise your end in the Dunya will be one of dishonour and dismissal from the Mercy of Allah in the Akhira.

Answer the Da`wa carriers who call you to that which will give you life, and lead you to the path of happiness and liberation. Do not listen to those who forbid you from this and do not attach importance to those they call `Ulama` if what they wish is to forbid you from the Call to Allah. Because those people do not fear Allah but fear the state. They will make you fear imprisonment, torture, poverty and hunger. It is incumbent on you, O Muslims, that you do not fear any of these but fear Allah only.

O strange Da`wa carriers who call to Allah!: Have patience and put your trust in Allah and know that Allah is your Helper. And work until you deserve the glad tidings of Allah. And know that Allah does not break His promise. He (swt) says:

``The decision of the matter, before and after is only with Allah. And on that Day, the believers will rejoice. With the help of Allah, He helps whom He wills, and He is the All-Mighty, the Most Merciful`` [Rum:4-5]

The Messenger of Allah said: ``Verily, the deen began strange and it will return strange. So, blessed are the strangers who make good what the people after me have corrupted of my Sunnah`` [al-Tirmidhi:Book of Iman/2554] And he said: ``Then there will be a Khilafah on the way of the Prophethood`` [Ahmad b. Hanbal/The book of Kufans:17680]



12 Jumada I 1420

24/8/1999

Hizb ut-Tahrir

Wilaya of Turkey



viist http://www.khilafah.com.pk

Latif #235 From your reply it is clear that you had no basis for making your accusations, but you are not willing to simply admit it. We all know that there are terrorist organizations in Pakistan - but no one, not even the newspapers you quote as your source, claims widespread popular support for them. Anyway, time will make you and others who try to promote hostilities between the two countries a part of history.

Umair#233

I think you have made a good point. The mentality of the GoI baffles me. Eventhough Jaswant Singh says that their foreign policy isnt ``Pakistan centric``, I think thats exactly what it is. China has made it abundantly clear that they want to improve relations with India. Li Peng`s repeated statements during his recent visit to India has made that abundantly clear. Despite India`s military upgrading, China`s military (& economy)is much more powerful. India doesnt stand a chance in an all out war with China, except perhaps causing a nuclear holocaust (which India will endure more damage than China).

So whats the point in spending billions on weapons that you hope you shouldnt use? Of course that money could be used elsewhere. Spending money on defense (especially when you import weapons) is a drain on the economy.

If the megalomaniac hawks in the GoI think they want to use Ronald Reagan`s philosophy to outspend the Soviet Union so that the latter`s economy would be run into the ground, they are making a terrible mistake. That analogy wont work with Pakistan! First of all, Reagan`s huge defense increase injected money in their own military-industrial complex. That, in a way, improved the US economy. India, on the other hand, will land up imroving Russia`s & Britain`s economy, while running her own economy into the ground. They are hoping Pakistan will take the bait & further destroy her economy. Jeez, thats a hell of a gamble! Ejaz Haider`s article in this week`s TFT was spot on. If Pakistan has any sense, they should`nt match India`s foolishness.

Increasingly, the nature of war has changed in the subcontinent, now that both countries have the bomb. Neither can afford a 65 or 71 without risking unimaginable damage. The devastation of Gujrat`s earthquake is nothing compared to a few atom bombs falling on--say a few strategic areas like, say, Bombay, Bangalore & NewDelhi! From a human standpoint the devastation will be catastrophic--too terrible to even contemplate!. What solace will India get knowing Karachi, Lahore & Islamabad will also be wiped out?!!

Even thinking about such a scenario brings tears to our eyes! Looking at that scenario, that 3 billion arms purchase is a terrible joke. Just imagine how many million ways that 3 billion could have been spent on improving the lives of poor people.

Wars in the subcontinent will still go on--alas! But they will be more subtle. The role of both militaries will involve limited skirmishes like Kargil--at the most. Increasingly, those wars will be fought on the economic, diplomatic, scientific & psychological ``front``--not on the military front. For better or worse, that will be the reality (unless insane minds in both countries opt for a nuclear war).

Thus far, recent history has proved that the BJP has been very very successful in baiting Pakistan to walk into a trap. The fact that India (which started this crap with Pokaran 11), is now smelling like a rose; while Pakistan with its ``tit for tat`` response is on the economic brink because of sanctions, diplomatically isolated & on the defensive, & endured a military coup--while the BJP got stronger in the elections is ample proof of that.

If Pakistan wants to win this war, the first thing she should do is put her ``testesterone filled pride`` on the shelf. That is her biggest vulnerability. The BJP knows that & is very good at exploiting that weakness. If India wants to jump into a well, for heaven`s sake dont follow through with a tit for tat response. If Pakistan has the courage to swallow her false pride, she just might win this war.

Latif Chappu#235

Bhai Aap Kahan Papion Mein Aa Gaye.

Ganga Jal Me Ashnan Kijye.

Aur Ram Ram Kijye.

Aap Ki Samadhi Pur Saari Duniya Phool Charhaye Gi.

Beech Beech Main Is Tarah Ki post Likh Kar Apni Akhrat To Aap Kharab Kar Hi Rahe Hain. Aap Ki job Bhi Khatre Mein Hai.

Waisay Aap Jay Ko Jante Hain. Kafi Din Se Nazur Nahin Aaya. Salaam Kahiye Ga.

Re: Tahmed

I personally have neither the time nor the inclination to go to Pakistan by myself and personally provide you with proof of the fact that organizations branded as `terrorist` like LIT and HUA/HUM openly organize rallies and fund raisers in Pakistan.

I can tell you that I have lately read an exhaustive New York Times magazine article about the Chittisingpora massacre that describes these fundraisers in detail. Sadna has provided a link here in this discussion itself to an article in Time magazine about the public support and funding to these organizations. Please do go and check it out. I have read descriptions of such fundraisers in Dawn.com of all the places!

Maybe I am stupid in believing the New York Times, Time & Dawn. Maybe they are all slanderers and liars. Well, I`ve got an idea for you.... why don`t you sue these organizations for libel? Surely you will win since these organizations are so obviously involved in baseless propaganda against the `silent majority` of Pakistan!

Arrey yaar justifying public support for the jihadis is one thing... but outright denial of a widely accepted and documented fact is beyond fair!

But all of the above is pointless anyway!

My whole point was that these same people who will drop 2 rupees for the cause of jihad in India are probably the same ones who will drop in 2 rupees for the earthquake victims! And that is the irony!

Isn`t it so indicative of what Chowk has become that every Pakistani is coming out swinging at me for pointing out one side of the coin.... all of them have then conveniently ignored the other side of the coin that I was talking about!

Latif Chappu

P.S: And no, there is no shame on me. You say that I am no better than a common terrorist.... If you think that believing credible media sources is identical to felling innocent people with volleys of AK-47 gunfire, then you must have lost all perspective on life!

friend #200

We are so much alike. I thought you are talking about Pakistan.

We do all these (pocketing money etc) in the name of Islam. How do you fool your people.

Latif Chappu #222

What is Badhae.

latif chappu #220:

``Incidentally, my post was 346 words, yours 390!Remember that whole deal about glass houses?``

yeah u r correct, i had to write so much and it`s amazing u r still clueless!

ur bheja couldn`t grasp one word of my post!

u sure are something

and as for ur glass house analogy.....try changing the context where u used it and then try ur earlier post...

again, in case u didnt get it, throwing stones at pakistan while india = as much`uva glass house?!?!

Zahra #216

Kum Uz Kum Mere Urdu Ke Jumloon Ko Itni Sanjeedgi Se Na len.

Or Kum UZ kum Mere Urdu Ke remarks Itni seriously Na len.

Your question was very valid.

RSaxena #229

To Aap Abhi Tuk Londey Hain.

Bhai Hansana Kum Karo.

Umairr #233, ``I am surprised more Indians do not speak up about the completely unnecessary arms build up India is carrying out, to threaten its neighbors, at the expense of providing food and shelter for its people. Thereby keeping all of South Asia poor.``

It`s easier pointing fingers at others than at themselves. I don`t think any Indian has criticized Indian defense spending (while the poor get poorer) except Rsaxena and maybe Shankar bhai.

Definitely not Sadna or macgupta :)

Let the wars begin...

Latif Chappu #219, `` You too missed the boat my friend. The point is this. Actions of either country in similar situations are very similar!``

I did not miss the boat, what I did sense though, was an anti-Pakistanism inherent in your post, and the post of many Indians who frequent this website.

The fact that subcontinental politics was brought to this board BY INDIANS pissed me off, and I reacted.

``Your country has INSTITUTIONALIZED self-righteousness. In your country, people cen be put to DEATH for merely `disageering` and

you have the gall to call Indians self-righteous?``

Now aren`t you basking in the glory of the ``we are better than you`` syndrome which you are so against?

Now that we`ve started mudslinging, how about the innocent lower caste people put to death in YOUR country? How about the female children put to death in your country? How about the poverty stricken, disease stricken people who are quite frankly put to death by YOUR government?

If you weren`t busy spending huge amounts of money for the army and defense purposes, I`m sure YOUR government could do something about starving poor folks.

You get my point rite. Your posts are propaganda poison laced with feigned diplomacy.

``What matters in life is food, water, air & love. As long as people remember that and don`t go around `inviting death for a cause`, we`ll

be fine.``

You`re not as simple as you try to be. Did you have to bring the dirty desi politics into this board with that post of yours?

It`s hard putting worms back in once you opened the can.

``Apologies for the tirade but you brought it upon yourself.``

No apologies, no acceptances of apologies. This is self expression.

Now to your post #223, ``The difference between Indian & Pakistani self-righteousness is that it`s cultural for India and religious (and therefore institutional) for Pakistan.``

I agree.

`` The sooner they disembark from their respective high horses and get their asses back to work, the better.``

Yup. Now that`s more like it.

Remember, don`t provoke if you don`t want to be provoked back. Don`t force me to pull out my mud slingshot again.

Peace

Umairr #233

Ever heard of `China`?

---SN

There is something I have never quite been able to figure out on the allocation of budgets in India. Please read the following from www.tribuneindia.com/20001113/edit.htm#3:

``Mr Putin’s visit heralded an altogether new era in Indo-Russian defence ties. It took him finally to sew up the long protracted negotiations on a $ 3 bn (Rs 13,800 crore) multifaceted defence deal. Russian intransigence in sticking to their terms was proving hard. Though the SU-30 development project was already in progress, negotiations pertaining to the Admiral Gorshkov carrier and T-90 tanks were faultering here and there.``

India just signed a $3 billion deal with Russia to buy fighter aircraft. It also recently signed a $1 billion deal with England to buy military training aircraft. These are just some of the military deals India has signed recently. There are two points that need to be noted here:

India already has 5 times the aircraft it needs to protect itself against Pakistan, and any other country in South Asia. So all this armament is being purchased to threaten, and perhaps at someday attack its neighbors (countries do not spend this kind of money on weapons just to use them for display purposes). Pakistan spends a lot on military equipment also, but it is only the bare minimum to protect itself against an India threat. It does not (and cannot) spend extra to threaten India, or any of its other neighbors.

Regardless of how much money India spends on offensive military weapons, in excess of its genuine self-defence needs, it will never become an international superpower, or even a regional superpower. To do that, it first has to be able to feed its people, and be able to efficiently handle catastrophes like the current one.

This earthquake has shown that the general population in India is extremely vulnerable to natrual catastrophes. After the catastrophes, there is very little money available to handle the after-effects (not to mention the general poverty that is prevalent in India, and the rest of South Asia).

I will be the first one to advocate the purchase of weapons by a country to protect itself. However, I am extremely opposed to buying weapons to threaten other countries. One dollar spent extra, after achieving self-defence, is wastage.

Based on the above two facts, why in the world is India bent upon spending billions of dollars to buy armament to threaten and attack its neighbors, when it cannot even take care of its own people. There are tens of thousands of people dying in natural catastrophes, yet making billion dollar deals with every country in the world to buy aircraft, tanks and submarines, not to protect its borders (for which it already has more than enough weaponry) but to attack its neighbors, seems more important.

This is the main cause of the arms race in South Asia. This will also keep all the countries in South Asia poor, and unable to cope with disasters like the current one. Buying defensive weapons to protect ones self is fair; buying offensive weapons to attack others makes no sense. Buying offensive weapons to attack others, when one alredy has 5 times the required amount, and an extremely poor population, is something beyond my comprehension.

I am surprised more Indians do not speak up about the completely unnecessary arms build up India is carrying out, to threaten its neighbors, at the expense of providing food and shelter for its people. Thereby keeping all of South Asia poor.

Since India has 5 times the armament it needs to protect itself from Pakistan, perhaps the $3 billion dollars it is giving to Russia for offensive weaponry would be much better spent on the victims of this earthquake.

Unless such gigantic arms spending, not directed towards self-defence, are stopped by India, I am afraid all of South Asia is going to be unable to handle catastrophes like this for a long long time.

Based on past experience (unfortunately) any criticism regarding these types of issues, by anyone outside India (specifically a Pakistani), is generally not looked at objectively by Indians on this website. So I am hoping that Indians themselves realize the mistake their govt. is making by dishing out billions of dollars to purchase offensive weaponry, and criticize it themselves. Such a realization will make it a lot easier for all South Asians to cope with disasters like this in the future.

friend #225
A heated discussion doesnot preclude other things where I am concerned. However, wish you success in both your endeavours!
btw, apart from the usual relief funds, I`ve been looking for any agency that specifically contributes toward reconstruction of demolished homes. Can you or anyone else suggest any name?

Sadhana

Latif Chappu #189 ``Pakistanis in large number are providing physical, moral & monetary support to terrorists operating in India.``

Did you get this ``information`` based on proven facts based on reliable research. Reliable research would include: an inventory of terrorist weapons and their sources, list of bank accounts and balances and statements of sources and uses of these funds, pictures of terrorists being hailed by crowds in the streets of Pakistani cities on their way to Kashmir. The last is certainly not the case, as even you know, and on the others there is ample evidence of money from abroad funding these groups.

Until you can provide the research as indicated above to back up your assertions, you remain no better than a common terrorist. Shame on you for not letting even the miseries caused by the earthquake prevent you from spreading lies and promoting ill-will between people. I am proud of the warm and humane manner in which Pakistanis have reacted to this tragedy, and for once the governments of India and Pakistan are both ahead in not letting politics interfere with common decency. I hope you will one day learn something better as well.