Eathquake Hits India And Pakistan
Chowk P Room January 27, 2001
#356 Posted by shammi on February 10, 2001 5:39:18 pm
These simple-minded village people should put to shame the more educated, fortunate, but too-immature-to-realize-it Chowkwallahs:
From todays New York Times
In Indian Quake, Unity Overcame Diversity
HORI, India, Feb. 7 — When this village awoke on a bright winter`s morning two weeks ago, all the talk was of the village cricket championship to be played that afternoon on a dusty stretch of open ground beyond the main Hindu temple and the mosque and the tiny, cramped houses that are home to the village`s poorest people, the dalits, traditionally known as untouchables.
Dhori is what is known in India as a mixed village, meaning that it has a roughly balanced population of Hindus and Muslims, and a smaller group of untouchables — people still counted by many high- and middle- caste Hindus as lying outside the ancient caste system, decades after India`s Constitution banned caste distinctions.
But Jan. 26, the day of the cricket match, was Republic Day, marking the day in 1950 when the Constitution was adopted, and the mood in the village was to forget old distinctions. So as morning fires were lighted and pigs and goats and dogs fed, the talk was of three Dhori men expected to star in the game — each, as it happened, from a different village group, each renowned for his skill in the three disciplines that define cricket. There was Haroon, a bowler, who is a Muslim; Hari, a batsman, who is a middle-caste Hindu; and Hamir, a fielder, who is a dalit.
That cricket match, of course, was never played. At 8:46 a.m., the normal life of Dhori came to an abrupt, shattering end, with an earthquake that left more than 900 towns and villages buried under rubble, along with many unrecovered bodies, and 19,000 known dead, perhaps upward to 100,000.
What the match represented, however — the villagers` capacity to pull together, especially at times of crisis — did not fail. On the contrary, villagers say, it triumphed, with Hindus and Muslims — and untouchables, once shunned by other Hindus, forbidden to walk on village pathways or to draw from upper-caste wells — clawing together in the rubble for survivors, giving one another rudimentary medical care and combining in the first, confused steps toward recovery.
``Hath milana, hath milana,`` said Walji Bhai, the 54-year-old ``sarpanch,`` or village chief — a phrase that in his own rough translation from the Gujarati language means, ``In times of trouble, join hands.``
Dhori`s ill fortune that day was to lie only three miles from the earthquake`s epicenter, and about 20 miles, by dusty road and now heaved bridges, from Bhuj, a market town where perhaps 10,000 died. The village`s good luck was that many of the residents were out of their simple single-story homes of stone and slate — the men in the alleyways or fields, the women out washing and feeding the animals, the children, freed from school for the day because of the holiday, outside playing.
Only 10 people died, although 914 out of 940 homes were reduced to rubble; those that were not were so severely buckled that they, too, will have to be rebuilt. Also destroyed were the primary health care clinic, the veterinarian`s surgery, the high school, the primary school, the water tower, the mosque and three Hindu temples. Dhori, in fact, was obliterated, and its residents forced to fashion new shelters in open ground with salvaged timber and makeshift tarpaulins stitched together from sacks of wheat delivered by the first relief trucks.
What the earthquake could not sunder was the kinship between Mr. Bhai and his fellow villagers. As he took visitors on a tour of the devastation, he turned and clasped B. S. Saneja, a 38-year-old Muslim who was named to the village`s earthquake relief committee headed by Mr. Bhai, along with four other Hindus, two other Muslims, and three untouchables. Together, they paused for photographs inside the shattered 300-year-old mosque and elsewhere, Mr. Bhai casually resting his arm on Mr. Saneja`s shoulder.
``We were already close, so in the earthquake, it was the same,`` said Mr. Bhai, whose committee has invited 600 Muslims from a nearby village to take shelter in a tented village the Indian Army plans to set up on open ground beside Dhori.
Mr. Saneja, the Muslim committeeman, agreed. ``This communal trouble that has happened elsewhere, this is all wrong, it is all about the game of politics, not what the people want. In Dhori, you must believe me, we have no such thing in our minds.``
The story of faith and community in India since independence in 1947, when Britain partitioned the continent into the separate states of India and Pakistan, has been mixed. There have been sharp enmities, and three wars, between predominantly Hindu India and Muslim Pakistan, accompanied by tensions, sometimes bursting into riots, between Hindus and Muslims within India itself, where more than 100 million Muslims live in an Indian population of over one billion.
By some estimates, there have been more than 10,000 ``communal riots`` — between Hindus and Muslims — since independence, some of them resulting in hundreds of deaths. But there has been nothing like the 1947 bloodletting, when vast migrations, of Muslims to Pakistan and Hindus to India, led to massacres that some histories say killed a million people.
Mostly, Hindus and Muslims have lived peacefully, while maintaining, especially in villages, lives that are in important respects separate, with predominantly Hindu and Muslim residential quarters, separate charities and distinct festivals.
But what the earthquake demonstrated, according to survivors in many towns and villages, was that what unites Hindus and Muslims is greater than what divides them — and that where there are divisions, they are often fanned by politicians, many of whom, Indians say, build their support around creed or caste or ethnic group, and see gain in maintaining schisms.
The example most often cited is in the testy, often hostile relationship between India and Pakistan, which was tested anew in the earthquake, and showed, again, how hard politicians can find it to put human concerns first.
In the past week, sorties of C-130 military transport aircraft with Pakistan`s crescent moon insignia have been landing at Bhuj, unloading the first relief supplies ever to pass between the two countries. The government of Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee initially refused Pakistan`s offer, saying India had enough. Later, under criticism, the government changed its position, setting off what Indian newspapers have dubbed ``earthquake diplomacy,`` a term previously applied to the contacts opened between Greece and Turkey after Greece sent aid to Turkey after a 1999 earthquake.
After a telephone conversation between the two leaders in which Mr. Vajpayee thanked Pakistan for its aid, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan`s military ruler, renewed suggestions of a summit meeting with Mr. Vajpayee over the disputed territory of Kashmir, saying he hoped cooperation in the earthquake ``can lead to further movement`` in ties between the two nations.
India — with Mr. Vajpayee reportedly in favor but hard-liners in his cabinet against — has so far rejected the overture, saying Pakistan must first halt all cross-border incursions into Kashmir by Muslim guerrillas.
Although this region on the border with Pakistan and Gujarat State has been the scene of numerous riots between Hindus and Muslims since 1947, little of the trouble has occurred here in the western part of the state. This is not to say that there are no strains.
One Muslim in Bhuj, Kumar Pir Mohammed, a 35-year-old bank teller, was hailed among Hindus in the Gokal district of the town when, in the hours after the earthquake, he rushed alone into a collapsed apartment block where middle-class Hindus lived to try to save a man calling his son`s name from deep in the rubble.
The man died before a slab pinning him could be lifted, but Mr. Mohammed, aided by others, succeeded in saving a young woman lying trapped nearby — coincidentally, a Muslim housemaid whose family lives near Mr. Mohammed`s.
Mr. Mohammed, with the full beard of a devout Muslim, said that he had stood for some time among a group of Hindus outside the ruined apartment block, reluctant to venture into the rubble in case he was accused of looting. Muslims in Bhuj, and the region, are generally poorer and less educated than Hindus, as they are on the average all across India, and Mr. Mohammed said he feared his motive could be mistaken. ``To me, at that moment, it made a difference that it was a Hindu building,`` he said. ``But I consider a human being a human being, and whosoever is in need, I should help.``
In Dhori, where Muslims and Hindus live in mixed neighborhoods, the village abounds with similar tales of Muslims helping save Hindus, and vice versa. Relief trucks reaching the village from two Indian charities — the Swaminarayan Trust, a Gujarat-based Hindu organizations that runs an extensive network of schools and temples, and Jamaat-e-Islami Hind, an Indian offshoot of a Muslim religious group that preaches an ascetic, sometimes militant brand of Islam — have handed over the supplies to Mr. Bhai`s relief committee, to be divided among the villagers without concern for faith.
``This is a Muslim house, that one is a Hindu house, and that one, again is a Muslim house — all mixed!`` said Mr. Bhai as he led the visitors down a pathway cleared between piles of rubble that had been homes, with buckled beds and smashed mirrors and the crumpled remains of motorbikes, three-wheeler taxis and, here and there, small cars, under mounds of heavy stones that had been walls.
``So how can we choose? How can we say, `This human being is more important than that human being?` No, no, before we are Muslims and Hindus, we are human beings, we are creatures of God.``
From todays New York Times
In Indian Quake, Unity Overcame Diversity
HORI, India, Feb. 7 — When this village awoke on a bright winter`s morning two weeks ago, all the talk was of the village cricket championship to be played that afternoon on a dusty stretch of open ground beyond the main Hindu temple and the mosque and the tiny, cramped houses that are home to the village`s poorest people, the dalits, traditionally known as untouchables.
Dhori is what is known in India as a mixed village, meaning that it has a roughly balanced population of Hindus and Muslims, and a smaller group of untouchables — people still counted by many high- and middle- caste Hindus as lying outside the ancient caste system, decades after India`s Constitution banned caste distinctions.
But Jan. 26, the day of the cricket match, was Republic Day, marking the day in 1950 when the Constitution was adopted, and the mood in the village was to forget old distinctions. So as morning fires were lighted and pigs and goats and dogs fed, the talk was of three Dhori men expected to star in the game — each, as it happened, from a different village group, each renowned for his skill in the three disciplines that define cricket. There was Haroon, a bowler, who is a Muslim; Hari, a batsman, who is a middle-caste Hindu; and Hamir, a fielder, who is a dalit.
That cricket match, of course, was never played. At 8:46 a.m., the normal life of Dhori came to an abrupt, shattering end, with an earthquake that left more than 900 towns and villages buried under rubble, along with many unrecovered bodies, and 19,000 known dead, perhaps upward to 100,000.
What the match represented, however — the villagers` capacity to pull together, especially at times of crisis — did not fail. On the contrary, villagers say, it triumphed, with Hindus and Muslims — and untouchables, once shunned by other Hindus, forbidden to walk on village pathways or to draw from upper-caste wells — clawing together in the rubble for survivors, giving one another rudimentary medical care and combining in the first, confused steps toward recovery.
``Hath milana, hath milana,`` said Walji Bhai, the 54-year-old ``sarpanch,`` or village chief — a phrase that in his own rough translation from the Gujarati language means, ``In times of trouble, join hands.``
Dhori`s ill fortune that day was to lie only three miles from the earthquake`s epicenter, and about 20 miles, by dusty road and now heaved bridges, from Bhuj, a market town where perhaps 10,000 died. The village`s good luck was that many of the residents were out of their simple single-story homes of stone and slate — the men in the alleyways or fields, the women out washing and feeding the animals, the children, freed from school for the day because of the holiday, outside playing.
Only 10 people died, although 914 out of 940 homes were reduced to rubble; those that were not were so severely buckled that they, too, will have to be rebuilt. Also destroyed were the primary health care clinic, the veterinarian`s surgery, the high school, the primary school, the water tower, the mosque and three Hindu temples. Dhori, in fact, was obliterated, and its residents forced to fashion new shelters in open ground with salvaged timber and makeshift tarpaulins stitched together from sacks of wheat delivered by the first relief trucks.
What the earthquake could not sunder was the kinship between Mr. Bhai and his fellow villagers. As he took visitors on a tour of the devastation, he turned and clasped B. S. Saneja, a 38-year-old Muslim who was named to the village`s earthquake relief committee headed by Mr. Bhai, along with four other Hindus, two other Muslims, and three untouchables. Together, they paused for photographs inside the shattered 300-year-old mosque and elsewhere, Mr. Bhai casually resting his arm on Mr. Saneja`s shoulder.
``We were already close, so in the earthquake, it was the same,`` said Mr. Bhai, whose committee has invited 600 Muslims from a nearby village to take shelter in a tented village the Indian Army plans to set up on open ground beside Dhori.
Mr. Saneja, the Muslim committeeman, agreed. ``This communal trouble that has happened elsewhere, this is all wrong, it is all about the game of politics, not what the people want. In Dhori, you must believe me, we have no such thing in our minds.``
The story of faith and community in India since independence in 1947, when Britain partitioned the continent into the separate states of India and Pakistan, has been mixed. There have been sharp enmities, and three wars, between predominantly Hindu India and Muslim Pakistan, accompanied by tensions, sometimes bursting into riots, between Hindus and Muslims within India itself, where more than 100 million Muslims live in an Indian population of over one billion.
By some estimates, there have been more than 10,000 ``communal riots`` — between Hindus and Muslims — since independence, some of them resulting in hundreds of deaths. But there has been nothing like the 1947 bloodletting, when vast migrations, of Muslims to Pakistan and Hindus to India, led to massacres that some histories say killed a million people.
Mostly, Hindus and Muslims have lived peacefully, while maintaining, especially in villages, lives that are in important respects separate, with predominantly Hindu and Muslim residential quarters, separate charities and distinct festivals.
But what the earthquake demonstrated, according to survivors in many towns and villages, was that what unites Hindus and Muslims is greater than what divides them — and that where there are divisions, they are often fanned by politicians, many of whom, Indians say, build their support around creed or caste or ethnic group, and see gain in maintaining schisms.
The example most often cited is in the testy, often hostile relationship between India and Pakistan, which was tested anew in the earthquake, and showed, again, how hard politicians can find it to put human concerns first.
In the past week, sorties of C-130 military transport aircraft with Pakistan`s crescent moon insignia have been landing at Bhuj, unloading the first relief supplies ever to pass between the two countries. The government of Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee initially refused Pakistan`s offer, saying India had enough. Later, under criticism, the government changed its position, setting off what Indian newspapers have dubbed ``earthquake diplomacy,`` a term previously applied to the contacts opened between Greece and Turkey after Greece sent aid to Turkey after a 1999 earthquake.
After a telephone conversation between the two leaders in which Mr. Vajpayee thanked Pakistan for its aid, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan`s military ruler, renewed suggestions of a summit meeting with Mr. Vajpayee over the disputed territory of Kashmir, saying he hoped cooperation in the earthquake ``can lead to further movement`` in ties between the two nations.
India — with Mr. Vajpayee reportedly in favor but hard-liners in his cabinet against — has so far rejected the overture, saying Pakistan must first halt all cross-border incursions into Kashmir by Muslim guerrillas.
Although this region on the border with Pakistan and Gujarat State has been the scene of numerous riots between Hindus and Muslims since 1947, little of the trouble has occurred here in the western part of the state. This is not to say that there are no strains.
One Muslim in Bhuj, Kumar Pir Mohammed, a 35-year-old bank teller, was hailed among Hindus in the Gokal district of the town when, in the hours after the earthquake, he rushed alone into a collapsed apartment block where middle-class Hindus lived to try to save a man calling his son`s name from deep in the rubble.
The man died before a slab pinning him could be lifted, but Mr. Mohammed, aided by others, succeeded in saving a young woman lying trapped nearby — coincidentally, a Muslim housemaid whose family lives near Mr. Mohammed`s.
Mr. Mohammed, with the full beard of a devout Muslim, said that he had stood for some time among a group of Hindus outside the ruined apartment block, reluctant to venture into the rubble in case he was accused of looting. Muslims in Bhuj, and the region, are generally poorer and less educated than Hindus, as they are on the average all across India, and Mr. Mohammed said he feared his motive could be mistaken. ``To me, at that moment, it made a difference that it was a Hindu building,`` he said. ``But I consider a human being a human being, and whosoever is in need, I should help.``
In Dhori, where Muslims and Hindus live in mixed neighborhoods, the village abounds with similar tales of Muslims helping save Hindus, and vice versa. Relief trucks reaching the village from two Indian charities — the Swaminarayan Trust, a Gujarat-based Hindu organizations that runs an extensive network of schools and temples, and Jamaat-e-Islami Hind, an Indian offshoot of a Muslim religious group that preaches an ascetic, sometimes militant brand of Islam — have handed over the supplies to Mr. Bhai`s relief committee, to be divided among the villagers without concern for faith.
``This is a Muslim house, that one is a Hindu house, and that one, again is a Muslim house — all mixed!`` said Mr. Bhai as he led the visitors down a pathway cleared between piles of rubble that had been homes, with buckled beds and smashed mirrors and the crumpled remains of motorbikes, three-wheeler taxis and, here and there, small cars, under mounds of heavy stones that had been walls.
``So how can we choose? How can we say, `This human being is more important than that human being?` No, no, before we are Muslims and Hindus, we are human beings, we are creatures of God.``
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#355 Posted by rsaxena on February 10, 2001 5:39:18 pm
Re: Zahra
Thanks again...I have seen it spelled as burqa too..that is why I asked...but I will accept your authority on the topic.
``There are certain classics that you do not want to wait for, but there are many others that`ve been around for a while and one would rather find the discounted tickets than phoro-fying money.``
I will wait for it to become a classic then. I`d rather not phoro-fy money either.
Thanks again...I have seen it spelled as burqa too..that is why I asked...but I will accept your authority on the topic.
``There are certain classics that you do not want to wait for, but there are many others that`ve been around for a while and one would rather find the discounted tickets than phoro-fying money.``
I will wait for it to become a classic then. I`d rather not phoro-fy money either.
#354 Posted by Zahra on February 10, 2001 1:33:52 pm
RSaxena:
You often write burkha, therefore I pointed it out. Correction was in two phases:
Phase I: Take the ``h`` out.
Phase II: Substitute ``k`` with ``q``.
Hope that helps.
PS: I have not watched the play yet and personally will wait till the Time Square Tourists`Center comes out with their special deal on ``Kiss me Kate.`` There are certain classics that you do not want to wait for, but there are many others that`ve been around for a while and one would rather find the discounted tickets than phoro-fying money. Just a thought! Check out the Time Square Tourists` Center or TKTS[Be prepared to wait till enternity for your turn to come]
Later,
You often write burkha, therefore I pointed it out. Correction was in two phases:
Phase I: Take the ``h`` out.
Phase II: Substitute ``k`` with ``q``.
Hope that helps.
PS: I have not watched the play yet and personally will wait till the Time Square Tourists`Center comes out with their special deal on ``Kiss me Kate.`` There are certain classics that you do not want to wait for, but there are many others that`ve been around for a while and one would rather find the discounted tickets than phoro-fying money. Just a thought! Check out the Time Square Tourists` Center or TKTS[Be prepared to wait till enternity for your turn to come]
Later,
#353 Posted by sadna on February 10, 2001 1:17:50 pm
Urstruly, Dionysus #various
The caste system will dissolve itself eventually in India, and mindsets will change, as they have been changing gradually over last many decades.
However, some face-in-their-own-butts fellow-subcontinentals like you from across the BLESSED divide are still their nursing/nurturing their centuries-old mindsets. Even with the benefit? of education and exposure, you find it kosher to talk of the `shame` of others belonging to a historically-oppressed class.
A normal thinking person would recognise its the historical oppressors who need to feel ashamed, NOT the historically-oppressed. Its also obvious which group you guys think you belong in the scheme of things.
As I said, BLESS the divide.
Sadhana
The caste system will dissolve itself eventually in India, and mindsets will change, as they have been changing gradually over last many decades.
However, some face-in-their-own-butts fellow-subcontinentals like you from across the BLESSED divide are still their nursing/nurturing their centuries-old mindsets. Even with the benefit? of education and exposure, you find it kosher to talk of the `shame` of others belonging to a historically-oppressed class.
A normal thinking person would recognise its the historical oppressors who need to feel ashamed, NOT the historically-oppressed. Its also obvious which group you guys think you belong in the scheme of things.
As I said, BLESS the divide.
Sadhana
#351 Posted by rsaxena on February 10, 2001 11:08:12 am
Re: Zahra
``Broadway is still playing the play based on `The taming of the shrew.` Please look into it. I have heard excellent reviews of this play. Also, let scout know about it.``
Thanks. I`ll be sure to get tickets. I know a shrew or two who could use taming.
``Broadway is still playing the play based on `The taming of the shrew.` Please look into it. I have heard excellent reviews of this play. Also, let scout know about it.``
Thanks. I`ll be sure to get tickets. I know a shrew or two who could use taming.
#350 Posted by Kalki on February 10, 2001 11:08:12 am
Urstruly ( #329 )
``Sir, I think you are a liar. May crow take your tongue (some Hindi curses sound good even in English). There was another liar on the board too who told us that he had to take his shoes off while visiting to his village because he is an S. He also told us that he was slapped across the face when he sat at the same level with Brahmin. Damn Liar. May crow take his tongue too. You are liars because you didnt give us a link to verify your claims like Gupta Inc. does. ``
Did you read my earlier post also ?
Sir, you are a moron who doubts everything including your ability to be a moron. Once upon a time you had your mind snatched away by a crow and may that crow never put your mind back in your head. you are and will be a mindless, * * * *less moron.
Anyway, coming to the point, no amount of the denial is going to change the fact that I am from a low caste family. And nothing is going to change the fact that me and whole family prospered b`cos of affirmative action. May be I should have just told my family name to you. But then a moron like you would denigrate my family name also. Go get a life you .....
#349 Posted by friend on February 10, 2001 11:08:12 am
veeresh #338
``Dear Friend, Dionysus and Urstruly ``
Bhai Veeresh, please don`t put my name together with URStruly (I am not saying this due to his caste ..) ).
``Dear Friend, Dionysus and Urstruly ``
Bhai Veeresh, please don`t put my name together with URStruly (I am not saying this due to his caste ..) ).
#348 Posted by macgupta on February 10, 2001 11:08:12 am
Some other links re earthquake relief :
http://www.disasterrelief.org/Disasters/010131indiaquake8/
(description of relief activity)
http://www.disasterrelief.org/Disasters/010208indiaquake11/
(Local volunteers crucial to effort)
http://www.rediff.com/news/2001/feb/09inter.htm
(The Indian Army is terrific)
Some other links :
http://www.hindustantimes.com/nonfram/090201/detOPI03.asp
``...seeing the West, with all its material richness, as lacking things Indians tend to have so much in abundance — a sense of meaning and passion.``
-Arun Gupta
#347 Posted by Harpreet on February 10, 2001 11:08:12 am
Urstruly#319:
``The killing of Sikhs by Freedom Fighters defies all logic``
yeah, those freedom fighters are reknowned for their logic.
``Pakistani/Kashmiri and Sikhs always had good relationships since partition despite the attrocities committed by them to the Muslims during that time. Punjabi Muslims have forgiven but probably not forgotten those testing times.``
Only to a certain extent. Not Pakis like you though.
oh yeah, and the bit about forgiveness and rememberance is mutual.....
we have also forgiven you, but not forgotten.
regards
Harpreet
``The killing of Sikhs by Freedom Fighters defies all logic``
yeah, those freedom fighters are reknowned for their logic.
``Pakistani/Kashmiri and Sikhs always had good relationships since partition despite the attrocities committed by them to the Muslims during that time. Punjabi Muslims have forgiven but probably not forgotten those testing times.``
Only to a certain extent. Not Pakis like you though.
oh yeah, and the bit about forgiveness and rememberance is mutual.....
we have also forgiven you, but not forgotten.
regards
Harpreet
#346 Posted by Urstruly on February 9, 2001 4:40:08 pm
Zehra
What have I done now? I made a promise and I stuck with it.
Anywho
Thanks for the pointers-but to tell you the truth the classicals-especially Shakespear suffocate me (except Les Misrables) I am more of ``Grease`` kinda guy.
What have I done now? I made a promise and I stuck with it.
Anywho
Thanks for the pointers-but to tell you the truth the classicals-especially Shakespear suffocate me (except Les Misrables) I am more of ``Grease`` kinda guy.
#345 Posted by Zahra on February 9, 2001 4:32:01 pm
URS[The Toddler]
Just watched another play based on Bronte Sisters works, Jane Eyre[Charlotte Bronte]few days back and if it`s in your area, I`ll strongly recommend it. The acting is great and the sets are fine. The characters are beautiful.
Wuthering Heights[Emily Bronte] was another excellent production. Though it was not on Broadway. I watched the Paper Mill Play House production - beautiful!
Take Care
[PS: Before you go out to watch anything, kindly consult thy optometrist first] Aankhaen Allah Taa`la Kee Nae`mut Haen. Read what Hellen Keller said and kept on saying, ``Seeing See Little!``
Just watched another play based on Bronte Sisters works, Jane Eyre[Charlotte Bronte]few days back and if it`s in your area, I`ll strongly recommend it. The acting is great and the sets are fine. The characters are beautiful.
Wuthering Heights[Emily Bronte] was another excellent production. Though it was not on Broadway. I watched the Paper Mill Play House production - beautiful!
Take Care
[PS: Before you go out to watch anything, kindly consult thy optometrist first] Aankhaen Allah Taa`la Kee Nae`mut Haen. Read what Hellen Keller said and kept on saying, ``Seeing See Little!``
#344 Posted by Urstruly on February 9, 2001 4:06:52 pm
Zehra
I apologize for this tipographical eror. It is my fault, I mixed you up with the other nice lady Zahra who writes soft poetry like Michael Bolton`s songs.
Once again Zehra, I assure you that it wont happen again.
Zehra:
Since you`re so much into Broadway and since you also mentioned burka may I suggest ``Victor-Victoria``. There was also a movie made on this play. I think originally it is a translation from a French play. Caution: deals with taboo subject matter. use discretion.
I apologize for this tipographical eror. It is my fault, I mixed you up with the other nice lady Zahra who writes soft poetry like Michael Bolton`s songs.
Once again Zehra, I assure you that it wont happen again.
Zehra:
Since you`re so much into Broadway and since you also mentioned burka may I suggest ``Victor-Victoria``. There was also a movie made on this play. I think originally it is a translation from a French play. Caution: deals with taboo subject matter. use discretion.
#343 Posted by Zahra on February 9, 2001 3:57:25 pm
Another Correction:
If you haven`t watched the movie. Do So!
URS:
It Is Z`a`hra.
PS: Please check with your optometrist ASAP. Shuroo Main Aaisaa Hee Hota Hae`. A appears E and then everything looks upside down. Just because you use alias does not mean everyone else is hiding behind a burka`[I meant to write this word as Saxena has been mispronouncing it.]
RSaxena[Wherever on earth this fellow is]
Broadway is still playing the play based on `The taming of the shrew.` Please look into it. I have heard excellent reviews of this play. Also, let scout know about it.
PS: Thanks kurnae` kee koi zaroorut naheen. I am very much into the Broadway Prodcutions and love to see what`s out there. [whenver I get a chance]
If you haven`t watched the movie. Do So!
URS:
It Is Z`a`hra.
PS: Please check with your optometrist ASAP. Shuroo Main Aaisaa Hee Hota Hae`. A appears E and then everything looks upside down. Just because you use alias does not mean everyone else is hiding behind a burka`[I meant to write this word as Saxena has been mispronouncing it.]
RSaxena[Wherever on earth this fellow is]
Broadway is still playing the play based on `The taming of the shrew.` Please look into it. I have heard excellent reviews of this play. Also, let scout know about it.
PS: Thanks kurnae` kee koi zaroorut naheen. I am very much into the Broadway Prodcutions and love to see what`s out there. [whenver I get a chance]
#342 Posted by Urstruly on February 9, 2001 2:55:57 pm
Zehra
Too much Nyquill at day time is bad for you.
Too much Nyquill at day time is bad for you.
#341 Posted by Zahra on February 9, 2001 2:35:48 pm
Another Correction :-)
It was Veeresh`s Post # [306] than [303].
&
the ambiguous post was [307] than [304].
Shukriya!
It was Veeresh`s Post # [306] than [303].
&
the ambiguous post was [307] than [304].
Shukriya!
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