Mahim Maher February 3, 2001
#17 Posted by asifkh on February 6, 2001 12:21:22 am
I urge all Pakistains to understand the venom as
spewed by Eklavya (#13) in light of history of hindus of the last thousand years. Their degeneracy, inhumane caste system, general resourcelessness/helplessness and acute cruelty towards the vulnerable has earned them above all contempt from the all those who travelled through this land over the ages. Please take consolation in the fact that
these 1 billion degenerates (every people has its enlightened) will amount to nothing
in any near future as they never did in the past.
The meek Kashmiris have made a noble and historic decision, rare in this hapless/cowardly sub-continent, soaked in blood: self-determination. How noble and worthy a cause in a land that has rallied for a cause. All nations, worth anything have gone through this rite of passage. Kashmiris are the initiators. All of us, out of our element servicing the Western needs in return for material comfort will really not amount to much as far as when the history of this time will be written. However for all my callousness and guilt, I stand in awe at the suffering of Kashmiris and spit on the degenerate
collective phyche of the hindu for I see not an of iota
of nobility or honor in him. The shame and humiliation they carry is the sword of Democales that spurrs them to ravage those who cannot defend themselves and are grovelling squatters in front of those that are capable of retaliation. Pakistan and its people are now in position to retailate. You can
question all that that is wrong with pakistan
but donot question the validity of suffering
of Kashmiris. History is unfolding right before us and trust me, we the hand-wavers, western-educated etc need to be clear in our UNFLINCHING support to our brothers in Kashmir.
spewed by Eklavya (#13) in light of history of hindus of the last thousand years. Their degeneracy, inhumane caste system, general resourcelessness/helplessness and acute cruelty towards the vulnerable has earned them above all contempt from the all those who travelled through this land over the ages. Please take consolation in the fact that
these 1 billion degenerates (every people has its enlightened) will amount to nothing
in any near future as they never did in the past.
The meek Kashmiris have made a noble and historic decision, rare in this hapless/cowardly sub-continent, soaked in blood: self-determination. How noble and worthy a cause in a land that has rallied for a cause. All nations, worth anything have gone through this rite of passage. Kashmiris are the initiators. All of us, out of our element servicing the Western needs in return for material comfort will really not amount to much as far as when the history of this time will be written. However for all my callousness and guilt, I stand in awe at the suffering of Kashmiris and spit on the degenerate
collective phyche of the hindu for I see not an of iota
of nobility or honor in him. The shame and humiliation they carry is the sword of Democales that spurrs them to ravage those who cannot defend themselves and are grovelling squatters in front of those that are capable of retaliation. Pakistan and its people are now in position to retailate. You can
question all that that is wrong with pakistan
but donot question the validity of suffering
of Kashmiris. History is unfolding right before us and trust me, we the hand-wavers, western-educated etc need to be clear in our UNFLINCHING support to our brothers in Kashmir.
#18 Posted by majnoon on February 6, 2001 12:21:22 am
Just out of curiosity. The poem is in Spanish and English. Do write in French as well?
#19 Posted by krashid on February 6, 2001 1:57:21 am
Eklayvia #15
Your ending of post is very good.
Love and peace to all.
Before that you acknowledged 20,000 or 70,000 Kashmiris have been killed.
Is that love and peace.
Or just word mongering.
Also in your post you are trying to see Kashmir issue through the eyes of an Indian which you are acknowledging yourself.
Then you are presenting a perspective that how Indians feel about involvement of Pakistan in Kashmir.
Do Kashmiri give a B.S to what you think. If you are still euphoric even after 10 years. I can only pray on your skull.
Kashmir belongs to Kashmiris. Indian forces are not only invaders in Kashmir but are perpetuating worst form of human rights abuse on Kashmiri people.
And a people fighting for their freedom, no power in the world can stop them for long.
Your ending of post is very good.
Love and peace to all.
Before that you acknowledged 20,000 or 70,000 Kashmiris have been killed.
Is that love and peace.
Or just word mongering.
Also in your post you are trying to see Kashmir issue through the eyes of an Indian which you are acknowledging yourself.
Then you are presenting a perspective that how Indians feel about involvement of Pakistan in Kashmir.
Do Kashmiri give a B.S to what you think. If you are still euphoric even after 10 years. I can only pray on your skull.
Kashmir belongs to Kashmiris. Indian forces are not only invaders in Kashmir but are perpetuating worst form of human rights abuse on Kashmiri people.
And a people fighting for their freedom, no power in the world can stop them for long.
#20 Posted by Eklavya on February 6, 2001 1:57:21 am
PM,
Thanks. You are too kind. You would agree that I present no special insight here. Every little boy and girl on the suffering subcontinent knows what is going on. What is amazing is that some people sincerely believe they will be able to fool the world forever.
Asifkh,
Thanks to you too.
Now, can we please take all this Hindu/Muslim hate stuff elsewhere?! Mahim deserves better than this infernal idiocy. The author`s got some interesting intellectual stuff in here :)
Thanks. You are too kind. You would agree that I present no special insight here. Every little boy and girl on the suffering subcontinent knows what is going on. What is amazing is that some people sincerely believe they will be able to fool the world forever.
Asifkh,
Thanks to you too.
Now, can we please take all this Hindu/Muslim hate stuff elsewhere?! Mahim deserves better than this infernal idiocy. The author`s got some interesting intellectual stuff in here :)
#21 Posted by Humsab on February 6, 2001 10:38:20 am
Urstruly
# 10
Eh kuchh zayada to vi zayada ho gaya. Ik nahi, do nahi, saare boards te Surajbanshi Ram Kahani likhni zaroori si?
Ena bore vi na karya karo!
Vaise kadi search engine nu ulta ghooma ke apne jehaadiya bharavaN de saari duniya te chal rahe Kaarnaamya da vi Khabarnaba, data bank pesh karo ji.
Shukriya in anticipation.
Rab tuhaada bhala kare.
# 10
Eh kuchh zayada to vi zayada ho gaya. Ik nahi, do nahi, saare boards te Surajbanshi Ram Kahani likhni zaroori si?
Ena bore vi na karya karo!
Vaise kadi search engine nu ulta ghooma ke apne jehaadiya bharavaN de saari duniya te chal rahe Kaarnaamya da vi Khabarnaba, data bank pesh karo ji.
Shukriya in anticipation.
Rab tuhaada bhala kare.
#23 Posted by ali1 on February 6, 2001 10:38:20 am
Re: Eklvya # misc
With your twisted banya logic you attempt to equate the brutality of the occupation forces with the valor of the freedom fighters. What a shameless fool, as tahmed would say.
The dhoti has blown away and the Emperor is butt-naked but the obtuse lungi-clads in the land of
scarcity and misrey continue to try and dupe the world.
Babu Banya, yeh hisab-kitab ka time hai, you might be forced to return all the loot with biyaj. Grab the dhoti and run you fool before the time runs out.
With your twisted banya logic you attempt to equate the brutality of the occupation forces with the valor of the freedom fighters. What a shameless fool, as tahmed would say.
The dhoti has blown away and the Emperor is butt-naked but the obtuse lungi-clads in the land of
scarcity and misrey continue to try and dupe the world.
Babu Banya, yeh hisab-kitab ka time hai, you might be forced to return all the loot with biyaj. Grab the dhoti and run you fool before the time runs out.
#24 Posted by Ras Siddiqui on February 6, 2001 10:38:57 am
Welcome to CHOWK!
Enjoyed the English version of this poem
very much. Se habla Urdu?
Ras
#25 Posted by Urstruly on February 6, 2001 12:27:53 pm
I fully endorse Asifk# 17 rebuttal to Eklaya`s post. I couldnt say it any better. The message to all Indians is clear
``ENOUGH IS ENOUGH``.
``It is just matter of time``.
Humsab:
Oyay asi Punjabi haigay. jad tak kisay nal vair nah paa layay saadi roti thalay naiN hondi.
``ENOUGH IS ENOUGH``.
``It is just matter of time``.
Humsab:
Oyay asi Punjabi haigay. jad tak kisay nal vair nah paa layay saadi roti thalay naiN hondi.
#26 Posted by harimau on February 6, 2001 10:46:50 pm
Ref ali1 #: 23
[The dhoti has blown away and the Emperor is butt-naked]
Fall down in front of the penis-god and worship him, then!
[Babu Banya, yeh hisab-kitab ka time hai, you might be forced to return all the loot with biyaj.]
Would `biyaj` be interest? Like, riba? Is that halal in Islam? Can you be considered a blasphemer for demanding biyaj? Where are the Resident Islamic Scholars of the Chowk when one needs them?
[The dhoti has blown away and the Emperor is butt-naked]
Fall down in front of the penis-god and worship him, then!
[Babu Banya, yeh hisab-kitab ka time hai, you might be forced to return all the loot with biyaj.]
Would `biyaj` be interest? Like, riba? Is that halal in Islam? Can you be considered a blasphemer for demanding biyaj? Where are the Resident Islamic Scholars of the Chowk when one needs them?
#29 Posted by SaadPAslam on February 6, 2001 10:46:50 pm
Why such sordid opinion of yourself? Is it based on past experience?
#30 Posted by Spinoza on February 6, 2001 10:46:50 pm
Urstruly,
I am interested to know your thoughts on Eklavya`s posts in the light of the figures (on terrorist killings in J&K) that macgupta has presented.
Now, the only way any logical person could agree with Asif or Ali1 is by dismissing those figures on jihadi killings as gross propaganda.
Otherwise, it appears that you are happy to rant on with platitudes regardless of realities.
Do let us know where you stand.
I am interested to know your thoughts on Eklavya`s posts in the light of the figures (on terrorist killings in J&K) that macgupta has presented.
Now, the only way any logical person could agree with Asif or Ali1 is by dismissing those figures on jihadi killings as gross propaganda.
Otherwise, it appears that you are happy to rant on with platitudes regardless of realities.
Do let us know where you stand.
#31 Posted by soccermom on February 6, 2001 10:46:50 pm
Tengo gusto de topes grandes y no puedo mentir. Usted que el otro hermano no puede negar.
#32 Posted by Urstruly on February 7, 2001 10:27:35 am
#31
The extent of atrocities and number of deaths of helpless Kashmiris at the hands of Hindu-stani Army is nothing but GENOCIDE, ethnic cleansing, and may be termed as mideival subjugation of a whole race of people.
The deaths of Hindu Army is called collateral damage or it may better be termed as deaths caused by occupational hazard due to un-safe working environment provided by Hindustani Government.
Government and people of Pakistan are doing a noble work by providing moral, political, and tactical support to the subjugated people of Kashmir. They are doing it against all odds-selflessly-for the past 55 years. Besides, we have learned this noble lesson fron Hindustan when they were doing the same in East Pakistan some 30 odd years ago. Time is a b-itch. what goes around, comes around.
The extent of atrocities and number of deaths of helpless Kashmiris at the hands of Hindu-stani Army is nothing but GENOCIDE, ethnic cleansing, and may be termed as mideival subjugation of a whole race of people.
The deaths of Hindu Army is called collateral damage or it may better be termed as deaths caused by occupational hazard due to un-safe working environment provided by Hindustani Government.
Government and people of Pakistan are doing a noble work by providing moral, political, and tactical support to the subjugated people of Kashmir. They are doing it against all odds-selflessly-for the past 55 years. Besides, we have learned this noble lesson fron Hindustan when they were doing the same in East Pakistan some 30 odd years ago. Time is a b-itch. what goes around, comes around.
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