This Visit To Pakistan

Rsaxena,

Thanks for the support :) and encouragement ;)

YLH

the fact that the crude, vitriolic, uncouth barbarian swore at my mother only goes to show how ``civilised`` and devoid of ethics some of these so-called secularists like the enemy of islam ylh actually are...i will not reply in kind though i know plenty of choice words in punjabi, urdu and farsi as well as english; u see, our beloved religion teaches us not to swear. (And btw, i did not even start this use of expletives--in one of his previous posts he accused me of wanting to give ``BJs`` (his words) to the arabs...)

Then he was so incensed that i called the westerners his masters that he swore at my mother....

Jaa al haqq wa dhaahiqal baatil....

Re: The Neurogen & ylh Opera

If someone`s mother wants to sleep with ylh, I don`t see how it is his fault. All the power to him and shame on her.

Hope that helps.

Re: spout

Can it little girl. I had nothing to do with whatever happened at that Satan Stoning ceremony.

(I see you`re predictably at your little holier-than-thou phase.)

Rsaxena,

Unlike you, I don`t take pleasure from people`s death. For you to use the tragedy at Mecca to make fun of Muslims shows your cold hearted nature.

Don`t let anger or the need for revengeful drivel blind you towards becoming something which you shouldn`t be.

To others, Yes I did write that, and it was written in provocation and after constant harassment, which included an assault on my person.

Why is this fool bringing this BS out here anyway? Is it relevant.

Let us not forget that one of the founding members of this association Islamic Society at RUtgers went on to assist Ramzi in his quest to bring down the world trade center!

Neurogen,

AM I answerable to you .... I am not going to give you any answer... enough is enough of this bulshit... I didnt know they let your kind on CHowk.

Yasser Hamdani

Re: sigalph

``Saxena babu, that was a bit uncalled for.``

Sorry, that was meant for urchins like scout and krashid, not you. Apologies.

YLH,

Dids you or dids you not write `you fuked Junaid`s mother.`

Ise wants a simple answer.

Adnan #672

Try to think what institutions you want to create. Because those institutions are the building block and not the personal whims of ruler.

For example the institution of dictatorship or kingdom etc. Similarly what role the people play in Shariah.

If Umer RZAH was questioned by a common man regarding his wearing large cloth. How can the institution of dictatorship or king will allow common man to question the misdeeds of ruler.

Just a point to ponder.

Adnan 672 #375

You are in effect saying that joining the Army Government by Jamat-e-Islami reflects internal democracy of Jamat-e-Islami.

Does it mean that Jamat-e-Islami thinks democracy is good for it and bad for common man.

Moreover that is your personal thinking that Army rule is bad and in no way reflect the will of Jamat-e-Islami.

Scout #377

I thought you are a sensible lady.

But your remarks that there is prostitution in India and even that on a massive scale is uncalled for.

India has only two things. Democracy and Secularism. And rest are ramifications of it.

Killing in Kashmir is not for democracy but Secularism in India. Electing BJP is for democracy but not secularism in India.

As far as prostituion, it is for democracy and secularism both. The more it will be the more will be democracy and secularism.

When RSuxena becomes a male prostitute, that day will be remembered in India as a milestone of democracy and secularism.

scout:

``Things change, this is not the century when the Quran shareef was written, the world is a dynamic place and we have to change with it``.

O great one, in ur eternal wisdom pl. advise us as to wht parts of the quran shd be changed

This is an old apologist line, as u cant meet western ideals remaining bouded by Allahs commands u want to change His Words.

The Factual Position:

The quran shareef btw was never written. It is as all muslims beleive ``Qadeem``,we beleive it not to be created. This is the discussion on Khalq e Quran. Any sect which has beleived otherwise (the mutazilites for one) has been considered non beleivers by the muslims.

My pt. wht has not been created is indep. of time and space.



adnan

RSaxena:

I agree with Sigalph.

Please keep such cheap shots to yourself!

!!!Thanks!!!

re rsaxena

``The mooslim mela in the desert turns violent. More stoning of idols.``

Saxena babu, that was a bit uncalled for. Making gratutious fun of people`s faith is quite different than strong philosophical disagreements with a religion`s tenets.

The mooslim mela in the desert turns violent. More stoning of idols.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1203000/1203108.stm

``Thirty-five Muslim pilgrims have been killed in a stampede as the annual Muslim pilgrimage, the Hajj, reached its climax.

They died during the Stoning of Satan ritual on Monday``

``In 1998, at least 118 people died and more than 180 were injured in a stampede during the third and last day of the stoning ceremony.``

`` Like Muslims around the world, the pilgrims also slaughter sheep, goats, camels and cattle ``